Cpc+Paris=?? (2 Viewers)

[ballefrans]

So the thing is I kinda want a cpc set. And I do not want to sell my Paris set. But every time I have more than one playable set I always want to play with one more than the others. If I am lucky I get to play once a month and for me I think the best solution is having only one playable set and maybe one loaner set.

I use starbursts as fracs, rpc for $20s and AS ihc as $100s. I am fine with this set up. The starbursts too worn but otherwise I like the set. But would I like cpc matched with thc more?

Not a huge fan of overlabels and murdering chips so I have begun playing with the cpc design tool.

One of many mock ups with a half ass inlay attempt.

Has anybody made custom fracs or other denoms for a Paris set?

What mold would look and feel most like thc?

Would cpc allow an inlay that resembles the actual Paris label?

Am I an idiot for even considering this?

 

[doublebooyah85]

There are a dozen excellent Paris relabel projects utilizing THC chips here on PCF.

Mustard SolidS from the roullete chips at a recent chip room sale for fracs are abundant, fantasy leaded green $25s seem to be popular, and sterling boat chips for the $100 are a great example. In addition lots of white THC chips that could be utilized.

I would stick w THC rather than a CPC Paris tribute set if I’m following your question correctly.

 

[NotRealNameNoSir]

So you already have a Paris set and you're gonna spend ~$1000 on a knockoff Paris set? I think that's silly and you'll be disappointed but I may be misunderstanding the question. None of them will really feel like THC and it seems you're setting yourself up for failure by aiming for that. Not sure if they'll do exact Paris copy inlays.

I love both CPC and the Paris sets but I don't know about this idea making you happy. Do whatever you'd like though!

 

[kmccormick100]

If you're doing custom chips, why not more closely copy the actual Paris rack? (I do like that frac)

Two $20 and 2 $100 options shown.

 

[SteveEH]

If you're doing custom CPC you need your own theme. Don't rush it.

 

[ballefrans]

So you already have a Paris set and you're gonna spend ~$1000 on a knockoff Paris set? I think that's silly and you'll be disappointed but I may be misunderstanding the question. None of them will really feel like THC and it seems you're setting yourself up for failure by aiming for that. Not sure if they'll do exact Paris copy inlays.

I love both CPC and the Paris sets but I don't know about this idea making you happy. Do whatever you'd like though!

I would only be making fracs, $25s and maybe two barrels of $100s. The two workhorse chips would still be the original Paris $1 and $5. Would also sell the chips I am currently for the other denoms so the cost is hopefully not a problem

 

[Beakertwang]

Jockey mold looks and feels most like THC, but they will not be confused for Paulsons.

 

[Littleluck55]

I maybe wrong, but I don’t think CPC will use the Paris inlay because of copyright. The casino is still open. You would have to change the logo dramatically

 

[ballefrans]

If you're doing custom chips, why not more closely copy the actual Paris rack? (I do like that frac)

Two $20 and 2 $100 options shown.
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My goal with this is not to try to duplicate what the original chips look like. Its to add denoms I need with colors and spots I like. I do like that green 20 though.

 

[ballefrans]

Jockey mold looks and feels most like THC, but they will not be confused for Paulsons.

I have the amold color sample set and I really like the feel of them so I guess I should get a shuffle stack of jockeys. Thanks!

 

[kmccormick100]

My goal with this is not to try to duplicate what the original chips look like. Its to add denoms I need with colors and spots I like. I do like that green 20 though.

Ohhh, you want to mix CPC chips in with actual Paris chips? Yeah. No. Don't do that. They don't look or feel anything alike - even the diameter and thicknesses are different, not to mention sound and weight.

Fully relabeled THCs are going to be your best bet by far.

 

[ballefrans]

I maybe wrong, but ai don’t think CPC will use the Paris inlay because of copyright. The casino is still open. You would have to change the logo dramatically

Makes sense.

 

[ballefrans]

Ohhh, you want to mix CPC chips in with actual Paris chips? Yeah. No. Don't do that. They don't look or feel anything alike - even the diameter and thicknesses are different, not to mention sound and weight.

Fully relabeled THCs are going to be your best bet by far.

Yeah that was my thought. First post was a bit rambly so I get the confusion.

Right now I am using leaded worn starbursts as fracs and minty rpc as $20s and they do not feel the same at all.

 

[davislane]

Am I an idiot for even considering this?

yes

 

[ballefrans]

yes

Makes me want do it even more!

 

[davislane]

Makes me want do it even more!

your money. do what you want.

 

[ballefrans]

There are a dozen excellent Paris relabel projects utilizing THC chips here on PCF.

Mustard SolidS from the roullete chips at a recent chip room sale for fracs are abundant, fantasy leaded green $25s seem to be popular, and sterling boat chips for the $100 are a great example. In addition lots of white THC chips that could be utilized.

I would stick w THC rather than a CPC Paris tribute set if I’m following your question correctly.

I agree. There is a lot of good looking relabel projects. But I dont really want to relabel several racks of $500-$1000 chips. Because they would still be murdered and relabeled chips that do not feel like originals. Or have I just been unlucky with the relabeled chips I have handled??

I murdered and labeled a rack of rhc and did not like the feel at all.

 

[doublebooyah85]

I agree. There is a lot of good looking relabel projects. But I dont really want to relabel several racks of $500-$1000 chips. Because they would still be murdered and relabeled chips that do not feel like originals. Or have I just been unlucky with the relabeled chips I have handled??

I murdered and labeled a rack of rhc and did not like the feel at all.

Relabeled chips should be unnoticeable. And feel as good as a real casino chip.

Look at all the amazing creations on this site, people wouldn’t put up w poor quality as you have unfortunately experienced. That’s an outlier.

 

[doublebooyah85]

There must be a dozen well done Paris THC projects on this site. I’d search them out and try to emulate those without question.

I even think several were sold in the last few weeks/months.

 

[ballefrans]

If you're doing custom CPC you need your own theme. Don't rush it.

I have been back and forth on this so many times. I have no dogs, no special place that means a lot to me. If I had to come up with a theme it would be a booring generic one involving my name or a made up casino/card club.

And would that mean more to me than a actual real casino? Probably not. I do on the other hand like the idea of picking colors and spot patterns and making a good looking inlay.

 

[ballefrans]

There must be a dozen well done Paris THC projects on this site. I’d search them out and try to emulate those without question.

I even think several were sold in the last few weeks/months.

Yeah a few have sold recently. But as whole sets for the most part. Will put up a wanted ad for Paris fracs and see where that takes me I guess!

 

[LeLe]

I don't like the idea of mixing CPC with Paulson, Mint CPC generally is taller than Mint Paulson which will cause some ORD issue for some as well

 

[ballefrans]

I don't like the idea of mixing CPC with Paulson, Mint CPC generally is taller than Mint Paulson which will cause some ORD issue for some as well

Nobody likes my idea

Uneven barrel height is a problem with my current set up as well.

Think I would be fine with one denom being different barrel height and mold but probably not three as I was thinking about doing. And I do not need 300 fracs so this wont be happening. Add the copyright issues and this seems like terrible and impossible idea

 

[Marius L]

Relabeled chips should be unnoticeable. And feel as good as a real casino chip.

Look at all the amazing creations on this site, people wouldn’t put up w poor quality as you have unfortunately experienced. That’s an outlier.

I don't think this is necessary true. Many people will notice the difference between relabled and original chips. I had a relabled set that I liked a lot, but original inlays feel and look better if you look/feel closely. It's definitely not unnoticeable. However in actual play if you are not really paying attention to the chips in much detail, it for sure feels just fine and close enough!

That said, I don't think getting CPCs mixed in with THCs is the right solution. The clay feels pretty different, and while the inlay will be pressed into the chip the overall feel will still be pretty different from inlayed THCs.

My main suggestion is to ditch the fracs entirely. What blinds do you play? I asume 0.5/1? If you up it to 1/1 minimum you will get rid of the frac problem, and the stakes are still low if the cash game buy in is the 100-200kr range. Add another rack of real Paris $1s to your set if you need more chips on the table since the fracs are gone. Assuming your game plays pretty small, you porbably dont need a lot of the high denoms, so I'd say just keep the 20s/100s you have and you have a pretty epic set.

 

[ballefrans]

I don't think this is necessary true. Many people will notice the difference between relabled and original chips. I had a relabled set that I liked a lot, but original inlays feel and look better if you look/feel closely. It's definitely not unnoticeable. However in actual play if you are not really paying attention to the chips in much detail, it for sure feels just fine and close enough!

That said, I don't think getting CPCs mixed in with THCs is the right solution. The clay feels pretty different, and while the inlay will be pressed into the chip the overall feel will still be pretty different from inlayed THCs.

My main suggestion is to ditch the fracs entirely. What blinds do you play? I asume 0.5/1? If you up it to 1/1 minimum you will get rid of the frac problem, and the stakes are still low if the cash game buy in is the 100-200kr range. Add another rack of real Paris $1s to your set if you need more chips on the table since the fracs are gone. Assuming your game plays pretty small, you porbably dont need a lot of the high denoms, so I'd say just keep the 20s/100s you have and you have a pretty epic set.

I actually like the $100s I bought from you. And those are relabeled but felt much better than other relabels I have tried. Maybe because they are textured.

Game plays 10x or actual dollar amounts. So 0.5/0.5 = 5NOK/5NOK. Buy in 500-2000NOK.

If I ditch the frac the game gets too big for a few of my players.

 

[ballefrans]

Set in action. Not a frac in sight. Do not remember much from this evening so maybe we ditched the fracs at some point

 

[Eriks]

I actually like the $100s I bought from you. And those are relabeled but felt much better than other relabels I have tried. Maybe because they are textured.

Game plays 10x or actual dollar amounts. So 0.5/0.5 = 5NOK/5NOK. Buy in 500-2000NOK.

If I ditch the frac the game gets too big for a few of my players.

Sorry for being blunt but you’re doing this wrong. You should take advantage of our shit currencies and get 25/100/500s in play. I do a 5 SEK big blind too but make the small 2 just to get the 1-chips in play. Getting a frac in play with a 10x value just seems confusing to me

 

[ballefrans]

Sorry for being blunt but you’re doing this wrong. You should take advantage of our shit currencies and get 25/100/500s in play. I do a 5 SEK big blind too but make the small 2 just to get the 1-chips in play. Getting a frac in play with a 10x value just seems confusing to me

Everything is 10x. Not just the frac. So my workhorse is $1 and $5 aka 10NOK and 50NOK.

 

[Eriks]

Everything is 10x. Not just the frac. So my workhorse is $1 and $5 aka 10NOK and 50NOK.

yeah, I got that. I just think it’s more fun to play every chip at face to get big denoms in play. Here’s my Paris set (or @Coyote ’s I should say, since it’s sold). Do really like the 20 you have though

 

[Marius L]

I see, so its actually 5-5 blinds, that makes more sense!

However I very much agree Erik here

Sorry for being blunt but you’re doing this wrong. You should take advantage of our shit currencies and get 25/100/500s in play. I do a 5 SEK big blind too but make the small 2 just to get the 1-chips in play. Getting a frac in play with a 10x value just seems confusing to me

Doing 5x or 10x or that stuff is very confusing to me as well, and when I'm spending thousands on a great set of hips I'm gonna make sure the denoms speak for themselves. Thats high on my list of priorities at least!

Add then the fact that fracs are almost always solids and somewhat boring (imo), so ditching them for other spotted chips are quite an upgrade almost always. Higher denoms also often have a bit more complicated spots which I also like. I realize that when it comes to an actual Paris set getting legit higher denoms is obviously out of the question, and I agree that the Paris inlay is very pleasing. But maybe you should consider looking for another set if you prefer to have original inlays rather than relabels. In any case I would much prefer to ditch the fracs, and rather relabel some other THC chips for the higher end of your set instead. Or get another set completely, like Indiana Grand (or another recent-ish chiproom offering), although they are completely different and RHC, but at least you'll get matching condition among all the denoms, real inlays, matching mold, and you'll be able to take advantage of some of the cool higher denoms, like the oversized blaze orange $1ks.