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He has the only Greek Key cup in existence I'm afraid. We never owned either of the Greek Key's anyway.
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He has the only Greek Key cup in existence I'm afraid. We never owned either of the Greek Key's anyway.
Redbelly
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Just to clarify, I don't have a Greek Key cup. In looking at the pictures I think your referencing the actual Greek Key Hob.
David,
I saw you address in another thread the option of bright white edgespots at a lower price point if the customer is willing to accept some impurities. Is there also the option of using a bright white base at a lower price point with the understanding that some stray color will make its way into the chips? Also, do you have any photos of some corrupted bright white spots or base chips to give an idea of what level of impurity we're talking about?
As has been said, thank you so much for taking the time. I'm positive that this thread will be referenced for years to come and will provide quick answers for those of us trying to discuss these things in other threads as well.
I saw you address in another thread the option of bright white edgespots at a lower price point if the customer is willing to accept some impurities. Is there also the option of using a bright white base at a lower price point with the understanding that some stray color will make its way into the chips? Also, do you have any photos of some corrupted bright white spots or base chips to give an idea of what level of impurity we're talking about?
As has been said, thank you so much for taking the time. I'm positive that this thread will be referenced for years to come and will provide quick answers for those of us trying to discuss these things in other threads as well.
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The level of impurity is random. Somewhere in a thread I provided a detailed explanation that answers your questions but not sure how to find it lol
Unless the factory is basically scrubbed clean, with no other work undertaken at the same time, all bright white bodies will have substantial impurities. As it is random, it may only affect 10% of the chip, or it may affect 90%. You can get passable edge spots out of them by avoiding the worst parts. However, as we haven't made any finished chips yet, I can't show you anything
I don't think anyone would be happy taking bright white body with impurities so that's why I didn't give it as an option.
Poker Zombie
Royal Flush
"Impurities"
When the bright white becomes impure, do the other colors melt into it, turning it muddy and blotchy, or does it leave flakes or ribbons of color. My head suddenly was thinking of using of clay scraps to produce unique chips. They could only be not-for play chips because no two would be the same colors, but for something like a commemorative...
When the bright white becomes impure, do the other colors melt into it, turning it muddy and blotchy, or does it leave flakes or ribbons of color. My head suddenly was thinking of using of clay scraps to produce unique chips. They could only be not-for play chips because no two would be the same colors, but for something like a commemorative...
thanks, David. the above is what i assumed, but wanted to confirm.
OP
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"Impurities"
When the bright white becomes impure, do the other colors melt into it, turning it muddy and blotchy, or does it leave flakes or ribbons of color. My head suddenly was thinking of using of clay scraps to produce unique chips. They could only be not-for play chips because no two would be the same colors, but for something like a commemorative...
Its the flakes and ribbons type scenario.
However, I have something to show you if I can find it and scan it
Toonexile
Pair
David, thanks for the quick reply - at least my bank account thanks you! I know the Medium Greek Key is owned by someone on Big Blue (joshuadalton) who organised several group buys via BCC as his mold did not fit ASM presses, so do you know who owns the small GK mold and could it be leased out like the E&C, or is this something you don't want to pursue at present?
Yes, that is what I saw (still getting used to the terminology of cups and hobs etc). In fact I was so surprised to see something that looked like a greek key mold in the pic!
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Answering Sean first, yes, that is one of the worn out large key hobs from many years ago.
The medium key is a more modern creation which I believe was adapted from being an injection mold to work at BCC.
The old Burt Co small key and large key molds were retired years ago, worn out. I don't know where the small key one went, the large one I donated to a museum. There were no cups or usable hobs of either.
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Its the flakes and ribbons type scenario.
However, I have something to show you if I can find it and scan it
First, here is your cookie dough.
Next is a mere Level 20 chip
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Toonexile
Pair
Woohoo - that means you could make a camo chip for all the hunters out there!
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The last two edgespots were these (i don't know if the nomenclature was right) under 16 or 18 size, just asking.
Hi David, can you confirm the chip on the left would be L7? really comtemplating it.
Thanks
Paul
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Read the post again. "The left one is not possible for us"
Only Paulson can make those spots.
It is the right one that is L7
My Lady Luck Club quarter pies are bright white, retro blue, and retro red. Just about every chip has trace amounts of red and/or blue on the white, but that doesn't bother me at all. I was prepared for this, and they turned out better than I had expected. I'm delighted with this chip. ASM-Portland, June 2012.
ASM-Portland, June 2012.Attachments
Sat, your link takes me to a Card Player post. Did you mean to link to your 828 chips?
atomiktoaster
Full House
For those quarter pies, it looks like you'd get a fair amount of red and blue rubbing off on the white areas just from stacking them. Not worth worrying about if you keep the contamination to the spot colors used on that chip.My Lady Luck Club quarter pies are bright white, retro blue, and retro red. Just about every chip has trace amounts of red and/or blue on the white, but that doesn't bother me at all. I was prepared for this, and they turned out better than I had expected. I'm delighted with this chip.
thanks, BG. weird - on my ipad the link goes to a card player thread, but on my laptop the link goes to the 828 chip.
@atomik, ASM/CPC chips really don't wear onto one another. i've seen this plenty in paulsons, but not once on an ASM/CPC.
@atomik, ASM/CPC chips really don't wear onto one another. i've seen this plenty in paulsons, but not once on an ASM/CPC.
Agreed. I haven't experienced any color transfer at all on my ASMs, unlike Paulsons.
spikeithard
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Got the email from you tonight David. I will reply to it sometime Tuesday
thanks
thanks
atomiktoaster
Full House
Huh, I'm among the unwashed casuals still that has never touched an ASM chip in the flesh (probably good for the bank account). I made the comment based on the reputation for being a softer material than Paulson, and the red appearing right on the sharp white edges of some of those chips in the pictures. Took that to be surface transfer rather than color into the bulk of the clay. Interesting.
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"unwashed casuals"
spikeithard
Flush
wouldnt CPC be harder material than Paulson? And is CPC 'cold pressed' but Paulson is heat produced? or is the other way around?
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CPC is harder.
Best way to describe is that CPC is hot pressed and Paulson is warm pressed.
The process is called sintering. And yes, the hardness depends a lot of the temperature and pressure (also the material, specially which kind of metal powder is inside). I know that because i have worked several years for a company which made metallic segments by that process.
without even working in the industry i could have told you that hardness is a often a result of temperature and pressure, though i hope to go several more decades before there is powder inside.
Your avatar really set the tone of this comment in my head.
"Sintering, my good man. Sintering! Harummpf!"
Your avatar really set the tone of this comment in my head.
"Sintering, my good man. Sintering! Harummpf!"
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