Cash Game Circus Games Cash Set (2 Viewers)

[GrizzKS]

I've searched a ton and haven't seen many thoughts on a cash set for circus games.

Once our smallish two table tourney collapses to one table typically the open table turns into a circus cash game. Usually just using an old set of dice chips where each chip's value is .25 regardless of color. This usually turns into a bunch of bills and chips mixed. This has generally been okay, but I'm thinking of getting my toes wet with set of Tina's for this cash game before I upgrade my tournament set.

Buy ins are usually $20 to start but often creep up to $60 for some players. But again, many of these additional buy ins turn into cash swaps or part of the pot in cash.
Usually 6 players, maybe 8 with some games PL and some NL depending on the dealers choice.

Since Justin's minimum is 300 I figured:

.25 x 100
$1 x 175
$5 x 125

Any thoughts?
If I wanted to run a small NLHE cash game do you think this set up would still support?

 

[WedgeRock]

There's no difference between a NLHE cash set and a circus games cash set. The same set supports both games at 25c/50c.

Your bank is $825. Is that enough, based on the cash that ends up on the table?

TBH, 100 x 25c is a little thin for a table of 10, but it can be done. If you're running a 6 or 8 person cash table, its fine. If the $1 is your workhorse chip, then go with the breakdown you have. If you use more quarters for betting, increase your quarters by 25 (and subsequently reduce your $1 or $5s by the same amount to keep your total purchase at 300).

GL!

 

[Machine]

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[detroitdad]

There's no difference between a NLHE cash set and a circus games cash set. The same set supports both games at 25c/50c.

Your bank is $825. Is that enough, based on the cash that ends up on the table?

TBH, 100 x 25c is a little thin for a table of 10, but it can be done. If you're running a 6 or 8 person cash table, its fine. If the $1 is your workhorse chip, then go with the breakdown you have. If you use more quarters for betting, increase your quarters by 25 (and subsequently reduce your $1 or $5s by the same amount to keep your total purchase at 300).

GL!

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If you want to build your set for future higher stakes I would add another rack of $5's and maybe some $25's. Otherwise, I think you are good to go.

 

[GrizzKS]

There's no difference between a NLHE cash set and a circus games cash set. The same set supports both games at 25c/50c.

This is what I wasn't sure of.... Bank is good and the $1's will be the workhorse I'm sure.

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Yep, a ton of great info. I was just looking for a 300 chip set to try out the Tinas before replacing the cheap Monte Carlos I bought 3 years ago for my tourney set.

Appreciate the quick replies. I think I'll jump on 300 Panda's for a first buy.

 

[TheOffalo]

Your numbers add up to 400 though.

If you're set on 300 max and your normal blinds are .25/.50, I'd go slightly out of the box and do something like this:

.50 x 50
$1 x 125
$5 x 100
$20 or $25 x 25

You could play .50/.50 and it's slightly more future proof, and you can always add on later. But there's no guarantee that if you order more of the same denoms they'd be an exact match (color-wise) to your initial order.

If you can do 400, then your original breakdown is fine for 6 players. If you move to .50/.50 you could do something like this:

.50 x 75
$1 x 175
$5 x 125
$20 or $25 x 25

It is annoying to have to order in increments of 25. And I like full racks, so I'd probably do:

.25 x 100
$1 x 200
$5 x 100
$20 or $25 x 25

Spend an extra ~$12 or however much it is for that barrel-plus of $20s or $25s. Maybe you don't break them out often, but then it'll feel more special/exciting when you have to dip into them.

 

[GrizzKS]

Your numbers add up to 400 though.

If you're set on 300 max and your normal blinds are .25/.50, I'd go slightly out of the box and do something like this:

.50 x 50
$1 x 125
$5 x 100
$20 or $25 x 25

You could play .50/.50 and it's slightly more future proof, and you can always add on later. But there's no guarantee that if you order more of the same denoms they'd be an exact match (color-wise) to your initial order.

If you can do 400, then your original breakdown is fine for 6 players. If you move to .50/.50 you could do something like this:

.50 x 75
$1 x 175
$5 x 125
$20 or $25 x 25

It is annoying to have to order in increments of 25. And I like full racks, so I'd probably do:

.25 x 100
$1 x 200
$5 x 100
$20 or $25 x 25

Spend an extra ~$12 or however much it is for that barrel-plus of $20s or $25s. Maybe you don't break them out often, but then it'll feel more special/exciting when you have to dip into them.

All great points, but the silly games are almost all .25 ante instead of blinds. I think the only time we would run NLHE with this set is if I only had 6 players for the night which almost never happens.

I'll admit if this game was my main event, then I'd follow the advice in Machine's beginner thread.

 

[Machine]

So it feels like you've asked for advice, but then present apologetics for not planning to follow any of the advice. I'm not trying to be confrontational, I'm really just using this as a segue to the basis of your opposition, budget.

I would circle back to my post, anything less than 600 chips for a cash game is half-assing it. To make it easy 3 racks is like 150 bucks, what's another 150 bucks to cover everything? These are value chips, go ham, you are more likely to sell 600 of them to another member than you are 300.

If you argue, well 150 USD isn't trivial, that's fine, then I would say you should seek out samples prior to purchase. Because in the end, you're only shorting yourself and your players.

I think the only time we would run NLHE with this set is if I only had 6 players for the night which almost never happens.

BRO! you're doing it wrong, 6 players is the perfect number for circus games. Also most circus games I'm playing don't have an ante, and you can always restructure the game, push the ante to the button, make it larger and only play X (number of players) plus 1, or change the deal on the same person per orbit.

 

[Labrat]

I think the only time we would run NLHE with this set is if I only had 6 players for the night which almost never happens.

I'm confused with this. Flop games are usually the answer to over 7 or 8 players, and circus games are more fitting to groups of 6-7 (maybe 8) or less since it allows stud games as well. There's absolutely no difference in a cash set whether you're playing NLHE or any other cash game unless you are playing strictly limit games, then that's a whole different animal.

I think we may need to know your definition of "circus" games.

 

[GrizzKS]

So it feels like you've asked for advice, but then present apologetics for not planning to follow any of the advice.

Apologies for this. I really just wanted to know if my planned set would support the silly games that happen after our regular tournament. I really want to upgrade my tournament set with something custom and it looks like the Tinas will best fit my budget.

So I thought $150ish just for the little cash game set that breaks out made sense. Looks like the feedback is no, go ahead and spend the $300 ish to do it right.

Perhaps I'll just wait then and spend the $$$ to order a custom set to replace my tournament set. I can always repurpose my monte carlo's for the cash game.

I'm confused with this. Flop games are usually the answer to over 7 or 8 players, and circus games are more fitting to groups of 6-7 (maybe 8) or less since it allows stud games as well. There's absolutely no difference in a cash set whether you're playing NLHE or any other cash game unless you are playing strictly limit games, then that's a whole different animal.

I think we may need to know your definition of "circus" games.

So I usually run a tourney with 13-18 players as close to monthly as I can. This cash game of multi boarded hold ems and stud games with wild cards and such breaks out after. Its dealers choice without a full orbit. sometimes 3 card guts will break out. Not sure if that meets the definition of circus games or not.

If I have a night with only 5-6 players that want to play hold em I would probably start the night with NLHE .25-.50 but honestly this would be rare since I don't have any issues getting 15 plyers together.

Appreciate the conversation btw

 

[Labrat]

Ah, I get it now.

 

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