Cash Game Casino 5% rake any good? (1 Viewer)

[BonScot]

The casino near me has recently turned from tournaments to cash games. I’m probably going to pop along one night in the next few weeks to check it out.

What do you think of the rake? Looks decent to me but I don’t have much experience with raked games.

 

[umbkcshah]

Immediate thought for low stakes - that's pretty good.

Comparisons:

In the US, $4 max +1 (promo) at 10% is the best you will probably find in a live 'real' venue for low stakes.

In Australia years ago, it was $5/player each half-hour. (don't think there was also rake there) or 10% uncapped.

 

[Frogzilla]

At first thought it looked amazing…$5 with no rake for preflop pots or for chopped pots is a great deal these days.

Then i realized it’s pounds, and so it’s really ~$6.20. Not amazing, just a standard rake. It’s good, it’s fine.

Also curious what tipping is like in those card rooms overseas. The dealers in the US are paid lower wages and players are expected to tip….there is essentially an additional ~$2 avg rake in the form of dealer tips. If that isn’t a thing across the pond, the $6.20 rake is back to amazing.

 

[BonScot]

At first thought it looked amazing…$5 with no rake for preflop pots or for chopped pots is a great deal these days.

Then i realized it’s pounds, and so it’s really ~$6.20. Not amazing, just a standard rake. It’s good, it’s fine.

Also curious what tipping is like in those card rooms overseas. The dealers in the US are paid lower wages and players are expected to tip….there is essentially an additional ~$2 avg rake in the form of dealer tips. If that isn’t a thing across the pond, the $6.20 rake is back to amazing.

Tipping isn’t really a thing over here, at least not to the extent it is in the US.

When I go along I’ll see if anyone tips the dealers.

They had cash games on before but the only started after people were knocked out of the tournaments, so games never got going until around 11pm. Now they’re starting at 6pm I’ll probably head directly from work and play for 3 or 4 hours.

 

[phaze12]

Rake free on split pots? Never heard/saw this before. Not a bad deal.

 

[umbkcshah]

Don't really understand the logic for the casino doing equal split pots rake free.

There's more time required to split the pot. I assume that the logic is that they don't want a player to lose money on a split. However that should be such a small % situation when only 2 players involved, escpecially low stakes that are often limp fests or multi-way.

 

[Bluegrass Poker]

At first thought it looked amazing…$5 with no rake for preflop pots or for chopped pots is a great deal these days.

Then i realized it’s pounds, and so it’s really ~$6.20. Not amazing, just a standard rake. It’s good, it’s fine.

Also curious what tipping is like in those card rooms overseas. The dealers in the US are paid lower wages and players are expected to tip….there is essentially an additional ~$2 avg rake in the form of dealer tips. If that isn’t a thing across the pond, the $6.20 rake is back to amazing.

But they are also playing in pounds so the blinds are also bigger than $1/$2 so wouldn’t the math be the same or am I missing something?

 

[Rhodeman77]

a 5% rake capped at $5 is a very fair rake.

Especially for all the very small pots that can happen.

So if the final pot is $50 in a standard 10% rake the casino is taking $5. But with the 5% rake they are only taking $2 (unless they round up, most don’t).

The local casino here changed the percentage from 10% to 12.5% to make sure they get the max in smaller pots.

 

[BonScot]

a 5% rake capped at $5 is a very fair rake.

Especially for all the very small pots that can happen.

So if the final pot is $50 in a standard 10% rake the casino is taking $5. But with the 5% rake they are only taking $2 (unless they round up, most don’t).

The local casino here changed the percentage from 10% to 12.5% to make sure they get the max in smaller pots.

Yeah it seems pretty reasonable on the face of it. The tournaments they run are a shambles with starting stacks of 20 BBs so it’s a lottery.

I’m going to go along sometime in June and check it out.

 

[OfficerLovejoy]

This is pretty amazing compared to what we've got here.
10%-2.5% up to €25.
So you only reach the rake cap when the pot is >€1000. It's a joke.

 

[joker80]

Yeah it’s pretty good. Our local casino is 10% to a max of 10 with a 1$ bad beat drop. We also have private games that charge that for a rake, which I think is ridiculous! They do, however, provide free drinks and meals. You have to figure a good dealer can deal around 30-hands an hour so the table is likely generating 200-300 dollars an hour

 

[Poker Zombie]

Are the chips worth harvesting? Asking for a friend

 

[BonScot]

Are the chips worth harvesting? Asking for a friend

They are utterly shite. Worse than cards moulds.

 

[puglia82]

Are the chips worth harvesting? Asking for a friend

no
please, no. They are awful.
It's same s*it I saw at a few London casino (Hippodrome, Empire, Sportsman, Napoleons, Horizon), they use these chips at punto-banco tables

 

[Legend5555]

Considering the standard in us casinos these days is 10% max 5 or 6 with a 1 or 2 jackpot, this looks very good.

 

[natumes]

Definitely good. We have 10% $5+$2 cap. No max buy in could get weird though. Also surprised to see no 2/5 stakes. Generally with raked games you want to move up stakes to beat the game since rake is taking money off the table

 

[chippitydoodah]

no
please, no. They are awful.
It's same s*it I saw at a few London casino (Hippodrome, Empire, Sportsman, Napoleons, Horizon), they use these chips at punto-banco tables

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I've saw nicer BINGO chips

 

[BonScot]

Definitely good. We have 10% $5+$2 cap. No max buy in could get weird though. Also surprised to see no 2/5 stakes. Generally with raked games you want to move up stakes to beat the game since rake is taking money off the table

You don’t really see casinos offering cash games over here. It’s all tournaments and they are all 20BB tournaments so guys bust out and have to rebuy (£50 rebuy and casino takes £5).

I’m not sure why this casino has decided to offer cash games. They have a big poker area (about a dozen tables) compared to other casinos here. The majority of casinos here don’t offer any kind of poker. It’s all Roulette, blackjack or slot machines.

 

[Eriks]

Sounds good. Our shitty casino takes 10% or max SEK 100 ($10) at the 10/10 ($1/1) table and 5% or max SEK 100 at 25/25 ($2.5/2.5) and up.

 

[grandmeme]

Yep that sounds good to me as well. Most casinos I've been to in Asia/Oceania are usually 10% $15 cap. Spent one night in Korea wondering why I was even playing in their 1/3 game on a table full of nits lol.

 

[BonScot]

Thanks everyone for your advice. It looks like a decent rake. I’m going to go along and check it out.

Will let you all know if it was a typo and meant to be 15%

 

[Freudeus]

Sounds good. Our shitty casino takes 10% or max SEK 100 ($10) at the 10/10 ($1/1) table and 5% or max SEK 100 at 25/25 ($2.5/2.5) and up.

And this is why I'm relying on you and @Ainton to host on a semi-regular basis, otherwise I'm sure to have a go at 25/25 sooner rather than later

 

[rustycheerio]

that rake is so good don't be surprised if they increase it soon. better then any place ive ever seen, other than friendly house games...

 

[Racer96]

a 5% rake capped at $5 is a very fair rake.

Especially for all the very small pots that can happen.

So if the final pot is $50 in a standard 10% rake the casino is taking $5. But with the 5% rake they are only taking $2 (unless they round up, most don’t).

The local casino here changed the percentage from 10% to 12.5% to make sure they get the max in smaller pots.

I'm also guessing that rounding up doesn't happen, so if the smallest chip in the game is the £1, then a rake only happens at £20. and a pot up to £39 would still only be £1.
If that's the case, the rake is, well, I don't think the casino would keep cash games running very long.

Yeah it’s pretty good. Our local casino is 10% to a max of 10 with a 1$ bad beat drop. We also have private games that charge that for a rake, which I think is ridiculous! They do, however, provide free drinks and meals. You have to figure a good dealer can deal around 30-hands an hour so the table is likely generating 200-300 dollars an hour

When I would get reports/feedback, 45 hands per hour was my slow speed. And while I'm a "good" dealer, I'm not a great dealer.

So, yes, @BonScot , that rake seems like a dream. Enjoy it while it lasts

 

[rustycheerio]

I'm also guessing that rounding up doesn't happen, so if the smallest chip in the game is the £1, then a rake only happens at £20. and a pot up to £39 would still only be £1.
If that's the case, the rake is, well, I don't think the casino would keep cash games running very long.



When I would get reports/feedback, 45 hands per hour was my slow speed. And while I'm a "good" dealer, I'm not a great dealer.

So, yes, @BonScot , that rake seems like a dream. Enjoy it while it lasts

45 hands/hour is fast!
you're only as fast as your slowest player!

 

[Racer96]

45 hands/hour is fast!
you're only as fast as your slowest player!

There are ways a good dealer can make slow players faster.

And if you're a great dealer, those slow players not only play faster, but have fun doing it.

And if you're an excellent dealer, the slow players play faster, have fun doing it, and EVERYONE starts tipping you more, because they're getting way more hands in.

Did I mention that I was a good dealer?

 

[rustycheerio]

There are ways a good dealer can make slow players faster.

And if you're a great dealer, those slow players not only play faster, but have fun doing it.

And if you're an excellent dealer, the slow players play faster, have fun doing it, and EVERYONE starts tipping you more, because they're getting way more hands in.

Did I mention that I was a good dealer?

i like to tell players 'we are playing speed poker, let's go' and move my hands in a hurry motion.
in a joking way... ha