Cash Game Cash out notice / HnR prevention (2 Viewers)

Never really had problems with Hit N Run folks in a home game. The great thing about a cash game is people can come late or leave early and you still have a game. Roughest part about leaving is a lot of times it will break the game, and I do feel a bit guilty about that. I also give notice, such as I need to leave by 11pm, or 1 more orbit, I think that is just polite. I have no problem leaving with all their money though, we are playing poker and I'm trying to win their money.

I don't care for folks that give people a hard time about leaving at a reasonable hour. If someone gets home to late to many times, we might lose a player. I'd rather someone leaves at 11 and is back next week than stays till 2 and we don't see them for a month.

Politeness, good manners and etiquette will take you along ways.
 
Politeness, good manners and etiquette will take you along ways.
I disagree with you here (nothing personal.) Maybe it's because I'm used to playing shorthanded games where one guy leaving has a big effect. Or maybe I'm just a grump. But to me, leaving a game early is the opposite of good manners and etiquette, no matter how politely you do it. It's not like the casino, where somebody is always waiting to fill that seat.
 
I disagree with you here (nothing personal.) Maybe it's because I'm used to playing shorthanded games where one guy leaving has a big effect. Or maybe I'm just a grump. But to me, leaving a game early is the opposite of good manners and etiquette, no matter how politely you do it. It's not like the casino, where somebody is always waiting to fill that seat.
Location might have something to do with that as well. The player pool in rural Nebraska isn't that deep and I've seen a guy stay to late and not show up the next couple weeks. I'd rather quit at 11 and have a game next week than be shorthanded next week.

Guess I should state I'm not talking about leaving early, more so as not staying late. I'm not upset if someone leaves and breaks up the game at 11 or midnight, we don't always have to play to 2, but if the game broke up at 9pm I would be upset and wonder why they came at all.
 
I'm never going to add or enforce a rule that forces someone to play that doesn't want to be there, regardless of reason(s).

But there's a sign on the wall about players being polite and courteous, and that hit-and-run artists don't get return invites. Seems to work just fine.
 
I'm never going to add or enforce a rule that forces someone to play that doesn't want to be there, regardless of reason(s).

But there's a sign on the wall about players being polite and courteous, and that hit-and-run artists don't get return invites. Seems to work just fine.

I agree, I think attempting to legislate this is more trouble that its worth.

Broadly speaking, the players that are most valuable to you game are the ones that keep their commitments most of the time. Players that use hit and run as a tactic are not valuable in that way, especially if they are squeezing out a tight invite list or causing games to break.
 
@BGinGA and @JustinInMN you have to bare in mind that I raised this question not because I thought my friends would act maliciously or intentionally in a way that harms the game, but because none of us have any experience participating in or hosting anything other than tournaments.

If I hadn't read about hit and run online it may seem perfectly reasonable to me to pocket my winnings after a big pot without thinking about the implications of this and why I shouldn't do it. I seemed to remember reading somewhere about some people using notice periods so wanted to get the perspective of you guys to help me keep my cash games running well... when they finally get running at all that is!
 
If I hadn't read about hit and run online it may seem perfectly reasonable to me to pocket my winnings after a big pot without thinking about the implications of this and why I shouldn't do it.

Agreed, and as said elsewhere, in casinos (online or meat-space, for that matter), hit and run is a non issue. There usually are other games to join should one break. When we are discussing a private gathering (and I might argue this goes for online private games to a point) playing most of the time schedule is more important to your commitment to the other players, because players leaving early without announcement can determine whether or not there is a game at all.
 
While I understand that everyone has different expectations and everyone runs their game differently and that's perfectly okay... I have to say I'm surprised by most posters' antipathy towards people leaving without some sort of grace period.

I do agree with @LotsOfChips that leaving because you are up is a different matter, i.e. it's a sign that winning money is the reason you came, whereas at my games, I'd hope that you came to enjoy the company and the gameplay (where the possibility of winning or losing money is part of the gameplay). But otherwise... I don't care what time you leave, and I don't care how suddenly you do it, even you do it right after cleaning out the rest of the table (as long as that's not why you're leaving). I have people over to play board games, eat food, drink, and chit-chat - usually bringing their entire families, and many of them not even playing games. I can't imagine someone saying "Welp, it's late, we need to head home" and me responding "Whoa, whoa, why didn't you tell me thirty minutes ago you were going to be leaving?" It's a social gathering, not a command performance.

I do agree with several others that it's courteous to let the host know if you think you'll be leaving significantly earlier than might otherwise be expected, so that the host can have a sense of how the evening is going to go in terms of numbers of players and types of games at various times. But that's bound to be a rough estimate, and needing to either time it down to the minute or provide a fifteen minute warning just seems pointless.

I also get that some people probably feel slighted if you win a bunch of money and then leave without giving them a chance to win it back. But I think that's a terrible attitude to have; once the money's in the pot, you have no claim to it, and once the money's in someone else's hands, it's theirs to do with as they see fit. No one ever owes you a bet; they're entitled to play as loose or as tight as they wish whenever they wish, as long as they pay their blinds and antes. Thinking otherwise is contrary to the fundamental principles of poker and gambling. At least, that's my view, and it's one that I'll try to encourage in my players.

Edit to add: If I'm going to someone else's game, I'll ask what's expected, and if I didn't ask I'd always err on the side of giving some notice before leaving. Because regardless of how I feel about the issue, it's always courteous to follow someone else's rules when you're at their place.
 
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Agree with Eddie, some people won't be happy no matter what. You can state what hand # or orbits/hands you have left, but the moment you win a big pot everyone loses their mind. If you lost it, no one would be stepping to bat for you, it is literally only because you won.

Any rule/buffer is purely HnR security theater imo unless it is ridiculously obvious. Maybe don't all in someone if you are uncertain of winning and they called last orb? People got boundaries and other commitments, catering to someone's hurt feelings because they lost a pot isn't a reasonable rule to enforce.

Just don't invite dicks who don't play when they're up... Keep It Simple Stupid.
 
As a British general had put it once upon a time: "Gentlemen, why don't you have the SAS settle the issue?"
It's been solved.
In home games, no winning player leaves before a specified hour (assuming he has joined at the start of the session).
Even after that, an one-orbit notification is appreciated.
 

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