Cash Game Set Advice (2 Viewers)

[KsCardRoom]

Hello,
First post and new to the chip game overall. I want to get a cash game set that works for both of the games I host and join. I’m thinking of doing the Apache Empires (or another of theirs in the same price point). Having a problem decided on denominations and amount of each.

One game is a 25c ante dealers choice game with a $1 limit and max of 3 raises per cycle. Max 8 players for this one.

The other is a 25/50 NLH game max buy in $100. Plays 9 handed or less typically.

I want the set to work for both and trying to keep it under 800 chips if possible. Thinking 200 of the 25c and $5 and 300 of the $1. I know people here recommend less fractions, but with the limit game I feel like we would need more of them than say 3$ worth of fractions per person.

 

[buzzmonkey]

This should work. Over a $4000 bank. You won't need that many quarters.

100 x 25c
300 x $1
300 x $5
100 x $25

 

[allforcharity]

$3 worth of quarters for a max 8 player game is...just under 1 rack. So you still won't really need more than 1 rack. Unless I'm misinterpreting your limit game.

With the number of $1s required for limit I don't think you'll have a multipurpose cash set with only 800 chips. It's probably approaching 1400.

 

[KsCardRoom]

Just realized I didn’t say .25/.50 hope it was implied with the $100 max buy in lol. Hard for me to visualize that few quarters cause our normal dealers choice crew typically plays all quarters only. Guess making change just becomes more prevalent which is fine with me. Doubt the 25’s come into play often either. Typically for the nlh game if someone buys back in they pay off biggest stack since we run low on chips with the current set.

Think this could work for both then?
100x.25
300x1
275x5
25x25

 

[LeLe]

800 is tight so let try it.

For $1 limit game 8 person half a rack of $1 each are doable so 400 x $1
25/50c game you will need 1 rack of 25c, at least 2 rack of $5
And the last rack will be for covering the buyin so 80 x $20 (prefer 20 since they are more suitable for limit) and 20 x $100

Breakdown
25c x 100
$1 x 400
$5 x 200
$20 x 80 & $100 x 20

 

[KsCardRoom]

800 is tight so let try it.

For $1 limit game 8 person half a rack of $1 each are doable so 400 x $1
25/50c game you will need 1 rack of 25c, at least 2 rack of $5
And the last rack will be for covering the buyin so 80 x $20 (prefer 20 since they are more suitable for limit) and 20 x $100

Breakdown
25c x 100
$1 x 400
$5 x 200
$20 x 80 & $100 x 20

Don’t think they sell $20 in the empire, but I don’t mine having a few less 1’s for the limit game just because we can use the larger 5’s to get us to the $40 buyin. Most of the choice games play big with max raises for a lot of the betting cycles. Easy to make change and throw a 5 in. Thinking that game could easily play as a
12x.25
26x1
2x5
Or 21x1 and 3x5

Then I have the extra 5’s that can be used for the NLH that way. 9 handed at $100 as
8x.25 (is this enough for .25/.5?)
28x1
9x5
1x25

With extra of the 1’s 5’s and a few 25’s for rebuys.

 

[JustinInMN]

Just realized I didn’t say .25/.50 hope it was implied with the $100 max buy in lol. Hard for me to visualize that few quarters cause our normal dealers choice crew typically plays all quarters only. Guess making change just becomes more prevalent which is fine with me. Doubt the 25’s come into play often either. Typically for the nlh game if someone buys back in they pay off biggest stack since we run low on chips with the current set.

Think this could work for both then?
100x.25
300x1
275x5
25x25

Yeah, I think you are good here, no problem.

In no-limit, you don't want too many blind chips in play because it slows the game down when having to count all-ins. In a limit game, it matters yes and you could surely justify more quarters because the all in factor doesn't matter as much. Still though, given the structure of the game, most bets would use singles, not quarters.

The other reason to consider more quarters is if you envision two tables as a possibility. You could probably swap down a rack of fives to do another rack of quarter and you would be just fine for covering two tables at these stakes really.

 

[KsCardRoom]

Cool thanks. Anyone have experience ordering the same set from Apache in separate orders? If I decide to order only 500-600 then decide to go back for another couple hundred down the road if the games keep growing, would the colors noticeably be different or will it be enough quality control that you won’t be able to tell? Think the empires are ceramic molded

 

[Tebonr]

Cool thanks. Anyone have experience ordering the same set from Apache in separate orders? If I decide to order only 500-600 then decide to go back for another couple hundred down the road if the games keep growing, would the colors noticeably be different or will it be enough quality control that you won’t be able to tell? Think the empires are ceramic molded

I didn't order the empire chips, but I did do 2 separate orders for my Dunes chips. No noticeable differences in colors or quality. That being said, my 2 orders were fairly close together.

 

[Labrat]

Cool thanks. Anyone have experience ordering the same set from Apache in separate orders? If I decide to order only 500-600 then decide to go back for another couple hundred down the road if the games keep growing, would the colors noticeably be different or will it be enough quality control that you won’t be able to tell? Think the empires are ceramic molded

It pretty much depends on if you're getting add-ons from the same run. The further apart you wait, the bigger chance of color variation. But that being said, not all chips match in a casino, either, so...

 

[Natskule]

One game is a 25c ante dealers choice game with a $1 limit and max of 3 raises per cycle. Max 8 players for this one.

Just to clarify. That dealer's choice game: Is it $1/$2 Limit, or is it $0.25 to $1 spread limit?

That changes the advice you receive. I'm assuming it's spread limit, not 1/2 limit poker which is played quite different.

Just my opinion, but if your only getting 800 chips, I'd get:

100 quarters
300 $1
300 $5
100 $20 or $25

 

[KsCardRoom]

Just to clarify. That dealer's choice game: Is it $1/$2 Limit, or is it $0.25 to $1 spread limit?

That changes the advice you receive. I'm assuming it's spread limit, not 1/2 limit poker which is played quite different.

Just my opinion, but if your only getting 800 chips, I'd get:

100 quarters
300 $1
300 $5
100 $20 or $25

Yea it’s .25 to 1 spread. Some of the games chosen build 50-80 dollar pots regularly at that limit so it plays pretty big for the size.

Think I’m just going to order 500 now for the game next weekend and see how it plays. 100,300,100. It’ll be plenty for our 7 person $40 buy in and even low stakes holdem if that breaks out. Then probably order another 200-300 for the next nlh game we get going.