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Looking for some thoughts as it's always a point of contention in my cash game... do you guys let your guests reload if they haven;t busted out. We usually agree on an initial buy, so for example $60, and then when folks bust out, we let them buy back more chips for like up to $100... but then the guys who didn't bust out want to buy more chips too. Thoughts?
 
I like letting people rebuy for more than the max. Its good for the game...people on tilt have bigger stacks and lose more. Its fun even when I am the big loser...
 
I allow top-ups, and I'll even allow a non-busto player to get a full buy-in if they're very short (<20bb).

My players occasionally ask for a top-up while I'm getting a rebuy for someone else - from a banker's perspective, that is the best time to do it. However, I've never had a player who wanted to frequently top off a 50-75% BI stack. I wouldn't have a problem selling someone extra chips and letting him do it himself out of his pocket. I do that at the casino all the time.
 
Top-off any time up to the largest stack or $200 (whichever is lower). I used to allow up to the largest stack, but it created a certain atmosphere in my game among a couple players... that was not good for the game... so I instituted the $200 rule.
 
Top-off any time up to the largest stack or $200 (whichever is lower). I used to allow up to the largest stack, but it created a certain atmosphere in my game among a couple players... that was not good for the game... so I instituted the $200 rule.

Interesting, what kind of atmosphere? Were they just really competitive for whoever had the largest stack or something?
 
Interesting, what kind of atmosphere? Were they just really competitive for whoever had the largest stack or something?

My guess would be either skilled players crushing the fish, degens losing too much and quitting the game, or both.
 
Interesting, what kind of atmosphere? Were they just really competitive for whoever had the largest stack or something?

My guess would be either skilled players crushing the fish, degens losing too much and quitting the game, or both.

that's a bingo...

Basically skilled player not afraid to bet aggressively and push people around. Cally/fishy players draw out on aggro guy and stack him. Aggro guy rebuys for large stack... rinse and repeat. Game ends up playing way above their comfort zone. Cally/fishy players can't adjust to aggro guy and eventually lose it all back. Cally/fishy players no longer want to play if aggro guy is gonna be there.
 
top off whenever you want but ffs be a semi-decent human being about it. don't top off for 12.50 after limp/folding 25 times in a 200 buy-in game. that's just a pain in the ass for the banker.
 
Agree with the consensus. Reload to anything up to max buy-in (let's say 100BB) or half the big stack anytime.
I would only introduce a "minimum amount for which to bother the bank", something like the amount of half the minimum buy-in if the latter isn't already too low.
 
I do have a rule that rebuys and add-on amounts are up to the big stack rounded down to the nearest increment of the minum buy in.

For .25-.50 the minimum is 10, so if someone gets up to 84 someone with more than 74 cannot add on but someone with 73 can add on 10. This keeps someone from adding on 2 every time they lose 2, but I think keeps the spirit that cash games should have rebuys and tends to keep the rebuys in round host-freindly figures.
 
Waiting for a player to bust before a rebuy is more of a tournament thing. It has to do with players starting even and not having a stack advantage. Cash game players can usually leave or enter at any point, so what's the difference between topping up at the table and cashing out when they're short to go to an ATM? You wouldn't make them wait until they bust, or cash back in for the same amount they cashed out, would you? As long as they don't nickle and dime the banker, players in a cash game should be able to top up whenever.
 
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The entire point of playing cash game is being able to reload or get up at any time. Denying someone a basic top off seems crazy, i would never play in a game like that.

If sounds like they really just want to play a rebuy tournament.
YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES
 
The entire point of playing cash game is being able to reload or get up at any time. Denying someone a basic top off seems crazy, i would never play in a game like that.

Agreed, as long as you're not that guy who bugs the banker for $10 every 5 minutes because your stack is down to 80% of a full buy-in.

In a casino with a dedicated cashier, do what you want. But in a home game, there has to be some mechanism in place to ensure that the banker gets to play a little poker and have fun. I'm not saying no top-offs, of course - just keep it reasonable (or over-buy and top off out of your pocket).
 
My crew will usually top up a full buy in when they are down to $20 or so. We play spread limit ($5 cap per street, $10 overs) so most guys want enough to cap each street.
 
Agreed, as long as you're not that guy who bugs the banker for $10 every 5 minutes because your stack is down to 80% of a full buy-in.
Right, but do people really do that? I don’t host too too much, but I can’t remember anybody topping off before they were below 50% of what they started with, unless maybe the banker was helping somebody anyway.
 
Top ups always allowed to either max ijitialbuy in or half largest stack in my game.
 
Right, but do people really do that? I don’t host too too much, but I can’t remember anybody topping off before they were below 50% of what they started with, unless maybe the banker was helping somebody anyway.

It's never been a problem for me, I'm speaking hypothetically.

In my game the opposite can sometimes be true, though. I have one or two players who will sit on their last 20 blinds in a cash game, stick it in pre with a weak hand, then rebuy when they bust. They know they're allowed to top off, they just choose not to do so. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
 
It's never been a problem for me, I'm speaking hypothetically.

In my game the opposite can sometimes be true, though. I have one or two players who will sit on their last 20 blinds in a cash game, stick it in pre with a weak hand, then rebuy when they bust. They know they're allowed to top off, they just choose not to do so. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

This is typically exactly what happens in my game. I'm usually the only one who is adding on simply to match the big stack at the table. Not because I've necessarily dipped below my initial buy in either, I just want to play deepstack poker so when the one guy who is stacking everyone has $60 behind I'll pop up my $15-25 stack to match his. (5c/10c blinds with $10-20 buy in, for context.)
 
Lol fair enough. Well there is one nitty guy in the group who doesn't want to let anyone buy in for more than 20. Our normal buy in is 20.

So generally 20 is the max buy in. Buy I like to go above and BEYOND the MAX!!! lol.

If I lose 1 or 2 buy ins then I just go on tilt and buy in for 100 and try and win it back. When I host I generally let people buy in for whatever they want after they lose the first 20. Generally it works well because its good to have tilted players with a big stack. I think every time a player has lost and then rebought for a large amount they end up losing it all.
 
^ +1 ...and you allow people with just deeper pockets to be equally big-stacked with those who earned the chips on the table.
 

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