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I doubt those are pre war, but that is a good luck symbol long before the germans adopted it.
louBdub
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For Indians, seeing a swastika is an auspicious blessing for good health. The word originates from Sanskrit, as in “swasth” for health and “tika” meaning mark.
A mirrored swastika (卍) is called manji in Japan, where it is a sign of prosperity and good luck. The manji is used to indicate the location of Buddhist temples in local maps and signs.
A mirrored swastika (卍) is called manji in Japan, where it is a sign of prosperity and good luck. The manji is used to indicate the location of Buddhist temples in local maps and signs.
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Huskerchipper
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I had heard it was a 'positive' symbol before the war now that u mention it. Not sure I could convince everyone at my poker party though. Lol... thx for the info!
NotRealNameNoSir
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Ey, I don't care what it was before, I'm still not purchasing, selling, or using this symbol.
ngmcs8203
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I thought it was a symbol in India not for Native Americans. Maybe I’m misremembering
Marius L
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It's still a commonly used symbol in East Asia. I've seen it a lot in China/Taiwan when I've been there. Here's a picture I took in the airport in Taiwan this April.
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twocannons
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Native Americans used it also. It was on alot of native schools before ww2.
Not touching those with a ten foot pole don't care no way no how uh uh burn them. That symbol no mater what country or religion should be gone. There's a reason you don't run into anyone born after 1950 named Adolf and this symbol should go too.
Sidenote...how many Americans named Benedict have you known?
Sidenote...how many Americans named Benedict have you known?
ngmcs8203
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The nazi swastika is reversed from the peaceful one pictured in @Marius L’s picture. These are nazi poker chips.
louBdub
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I think my main point is things can be hijacked & meanings lost.
The symbol invoked love & peace for thousands of years, and then used for a socialist war symbol for literally a tiny fraction…. And now everyone hates it.
Shows how history can be so important. Especially so we can remember the good things, and continue those positive vibes.
The symbol invoked love & peace for thousands of years, and then used for a socialist war symbol for literally a tiny fraction…. And now everyone hates it.
Shows how history can be so important. Especially so we can remember the good things, and continue those positive vibes.
Eastern traditions have used the swastika in both orientations.
ngmcs8203
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That’s interesting. I’ve only ever seen the oppo Nazi orientation
louBdub
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History matters.
yes, history does matter.
Roll around Russia, Poland, France, UK, Israel, US, Canada, etc with one and see how long it takes - lol.
Uh. I see them all the time. Work in tech and most Hindu/Indian individuals when they buy a car will paint one across the hood for good fortune. It's super common and is a daily occurrence.
I hear you, however the broader picture is tens of millions of people dead and an entire continent in ruins tends to have a negative effect on things.
I do see your point, however somethings are better left dead and buried. This being one of them.
Yes - and it’s utterly offensive and demonstrates an utter and complete disregard and disrespect for our culture. I’ve seen here too, and they were told to stop.
They don’t tend to have many Jews in India…
Couldn’t give less of a shit what it means in another country or culture. Here, it’s not cool - period.
Sorry, not sorry.
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Nazis?
ngmcs8203
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Yup. I think they are the ones that are afraid to show their faces and run away from counter protestors.Nazis?
What’s utterly offensive is your complete disregard of 2500 years of Asian culture because some white people coopted a symbol and did some terrible things. The people who co-opted that symbol are the people you should be disgusted with, not the symbol they stole from a ancient culture that still exists today.
And yet proponents of the ideologies are numerous to this day, and have supporters (or at least non-deniers) in the highest levels of many Western governments who suffered most at the enemies' hands back in the day.
I just reported the listing to eBay as violating their policy on displaying offensive or violent material. I imagine eBay moderators are more likely to pay attention if there are multiple reports, if you want to find it and report it yourself. But I am not going to provide a link to it.
Saying it is okay to display this symbol because it used to have a neutral or positive meaning before it presided over the slaughter of 80 million people, is like someone using the n-word and claiming it is okay because it used to have a neutral meaning. Words change meaning over time. Symbols change meaning over time. Today this symbol means hate and threatens violence - stop pretending it does not.
The vast majority of Americans and Europeans who display this symbol in a gratuitous manner (say, on poker chips) and "innocently" claim "heritage" are liars speaking out the side of their mouths. If you display this symbol, you are a nazi. Full stop. If you defend the symbol then you are a nazi. Full stop. The eBay listing states multiple times the seller is not a nazi. The seller doth protest too much, methinks.
Saying it is okay to display this symbol because it used to have a neutral or positive meaning before it presided over the slaughter of 80 million people, is like someone using the n-word and claiming it is okay because it used to have a neutral meaning. Words change meaning over time. Symbols change meaning over time. Today this symbol means hate and threatens violence - stop pretending it does not.
The vast majority of Americans and Europeans who display this symbol in a gratuitous manner (say, on poker chips) and "innocently" claim "heritage" are liars speaking out the side of their mouths. If you display this symbol, you are a nazi. Full stop. If you defend the symbol then you are a nazi. Full stop. The eBay listing states multiple times the seller is not a nazi. The seller doth protest too much, methinks.
ngmcs8203
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There are at least 8 listings.
Are you kidding me
Edit: Generally common sense not to display a symbol that is known to be highly offensive within the country in which you are in, regardless of what that symbol may mean in the country you are from. (Common courtesy/respect)
To do otherwise, is simply ridiculously arrogant.
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Not a practicing Christian , I’m not Muslim . Guess I go through the Nazi door
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Huskerchipper
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I did not post this to create controversy between PCF members. Let's let this post die. My apologies.
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