Tourney Asking for advice on Tournament 1000 chip set distribution (1 Viewer)

[SitKittyJuice]

Hello everyone!

I was currently thinking a 1000 pc set for tournament games

I was currently thinking of the following:

$1 x 150
$5 x 250
$25 x 150
$100 x 250
$500 x 150

I know I have 50 pcs left to work with

Anyways, I’m open to suggestions to what people think

I’m not super hard set on the denominations, but I’m not really keen on dealing with .25/.50 denominations either

Thank you

 

[allforcharity]

How many tables of 8-10 players?

Most games do not require a 1000-count chip set.

 

[Colquhoun]

How many tables of 8-10 players?

Most games do not require a 1000-count chip set.

Agreed...a two-table (20 player) tournament can be comfortably hosted with 600 chips, if the breakdown is right.
That opens up your 1,000-chip budget to maybe get a higher-tier chip.
Or, pocket the extra.

 

[Poker Zombie]

First, drop the "$" on tournament chips.

Next, a tournament set starting with 1s is the least efficient denomination to start with. In your first 2 color-ups you are putting 40% of your chips in the box, and over 1/2 your chips in the box after your 3rd color-up.

Finally, check all around this site. Breakdowns are discussed ad nauseum. The more you read, the better informed you will be. The better informed you are, the better the host you will be, as you can tailor your game to what you think is best - not just the commentors of one thread.

 

[SitKittyJuice]

How many tables of 8-10 players?

Most games do not require a 1000-count chip set.

I was thinking 1 table of about 8/10 players

 

[allforcharity]

I was thinking 1 table of about 8/10 players

You can get what you need with 300-350 chips easy.

 

[Colquhoun]

Here's a post from the tourney guru, @BGinGA , using a T25 or T100-based approach on a single table:
https://www.pokerchipforum.com/threads/stt-set.109723/#post-2265670

But like Poker Zombie mentioned, there's tons of different breakdown advice throughout the tournament section.

Also, here's a great video from one of our own PCF members:

 

[springbox]

Typed something out, then I realized I was better off using the search function. Here's some examples for a T1 250bb set under 500 chips

https://www.pokerchipforum.com/thre...rnament-set-stacks-t1-base.44089/post-1134244

You can go smaller if you're playing 400~800 starting stacks. For example using 10/8/10/2 for T400 starting

100 x T1
80 x T5
100 x T25
20 x T100

This is bare minimum, you'd need to add T100s for rebuys and color ups, and deeper starting stacks. Keeping it at 400 chips I'd suggest:

120 x T1
100 x T5
100 x T25
80 x T100

With up to 8 players, you can have starting stacks of 15/12/9/x. With 10 players you can have starting stacks of 10/8/10/x. Example for a T600 150bb 2/4 starting blinds, or 200bb 1/3 starting blinds.

T600 starting stack 8-max
15/12/9/3. 56 leftover T100, reserve 6 for coloring up the T1+T5. 50 leftover means up to 8 rebuys.

T600 starting stack 10-max
10/8/10/3. 56 leftover T100, reserve 5 for coloring up the T1+T5. 51 leftover means up to 8 rebuys.

If you're willing to have your base chip be larger (say T25 or T100) you'll find more resources because T1 base tournaments are not common. You can check out the set selection tool for a base recommendation:
https://docs.google.com/presentatio...CxPxCk4t2iMOW68c94QQaEgquQ/present#slide=id.p

 

[TheRealStephen12]

Third option: Get a cash set AND a tourney set with two different designs so you don’t cash out tourney chips or anything like that.

 

[Ben8257]

First, drop the "$" on tournament chips.

Next, a tournament set starting with 1s is the least efficient denomination to start with. In your first 2 color-ups you are putting 40% of your chips in the box, and over 1/2 your chips in the box after your 3rd color-up.

Finally, check all around this site. Breakdowns are discussed ad nauseum. The more you read, the better informed you will be. The better informed you are, the better the host you will be, as you can tailor your game to what you think is best - not just the commentors of one thread.

You’re my brother MJ but gotta disagree on this one… the most widely accepted as most efficient tourney is T25 based and even at 12/12/5/6 for a 10k starting stack you are removing 2/3 of chips in play in the first two levels! This is why I don’t care who says what on efficiency, I like adding more lower demons on each chip up and not just high value chips… change making sucks!

Also for the record T100 based sets are what exactly?? T1 with 2 extra zeros! Congratulations!! But folks on here talking about T100 efficiency and how much better it is… NOT! Again just two more zeros!

And let’s also mention that with a T100 set the progression is perfect with 4 - 5 time increases. 1,5,25,100,500 and we don’t have to worry about the awful jump from 500 to 1000 (a double increase is not efficient).

Casinos ran T1 based for a long time until wsop and everyone wanted that feeling of playing with monster stacks of non realistic values. (A certain zombie set with beautiful plaques comes to mind, in a good way)

As far as chip set… I think we need a little more info but for 10 players of T1 based, which I also ran for years here was my break down.

T1 based T500 tourney with rebuys
Starting stack
10 x 1 =10 x 10 = 100
13 x 5 =65 x 10 = 130
9 x 25 =225 x 10 = 90
2 x 100 =200 x10 = 20

Rebuys 1-5
4 x 25 =100 x 5 = 20
4 x 100 =400 x 5 = 20
Rebuys 6-10
1 x 500 =500 x 5 = 5

Total chips needed to start
T1 - 100 T5 - 130 T25 - 110 T100 - 40 T500 - 5

Chip up #1 no T1s x 100 = 100/ (round up one extra for each player) 150
So we need 20 - T5s and 2 - T25s

Chip up #2 no T5s x 150 = 750/(ru) 1000
So we need 20 - T25s and 5 - T100s

Chip up #3 no T25s x 132 = 3,300/(ru) 4,300
So we need 23 - T100s and 4 - T500s

I would leave the T100s on the table till completion but you could do

Chip up #4 no T100s x 68 = 6,800/(ru) maybe 4 players remaining so 8,800
We need 18 - T500

Total chips set
T1 - 100
T5 - 150
T25 - 132
T100 - 68
T500 - 27

Just my 2 cents but that is a fun tourney break down, again T1 is the same as all the cool kids running T100… just 2 less zeros!

Fellow Chipper Ben

 

[Poker Zombie]

You’re my brother MJ but gotta disagree on this one… the most widely accepted as most efficient tourney is T25 based and even at 12/12/5/6 for a 10k starting stack you are removing 2/3 of chips in play in the first two levels! This is why I don’t care who says what on efficiency, I like adding more lower demons on each chip up and not just high value chips… change making sucks!

I will not disagree here - the T25 base is my standard. Lots of chips give limpers a lot of hands before they run out of their lowest denom. Not possible with T500 based sets. T500 is more efficient but not necessarily better. It's the main reason I suggested going through other threads. The "best" set depends on your group. It's a fools errand to think you will get the correct advice in one thread.

Also for the record T100 based sets are what exactly?? T1 with 2 extra zeros! Congratulations!! But folks on here talking about T100 efficiency and how much better it is… NOT! Again just two more zeros!

Not quite.

T1 = T100
T5 = T500
T25 ≠ T1000

When coloring up a T100 set for the second color-up, there are 4-6 T500s per player. That's 4-6 chips paid for, going into the case unused. Meanwhile in a T1 set the second color-up is taking out 10 chips per player. Roughly 100% more chips that you have to buy (for that level) that arent used for 60% of the tournament. T1 ≠ T100 with extra zeros.

Now if you want to talk about sets starting at T1000, I agree. Extra zeros for no reason - But T100 base sets are slightly different because only freaks use T2500 chips.

 

[SitKittyJuice]

Thank you all for the great advice

 

[allforcharity]

I think we should bring back T0.25-based tournaments.

 

[Poker Zombie]

I think we should bring back T0.25-based tournaments.

I ran one last month. Blinds started at 25¢-25¢.

I had to write to the developer of the bind-clock software, who had to make some adjustments for the fractional levels, but he did it. When the bubble broke, the remaining players were paid in whatever was left in their stacks. $1-$1 would have been too short-stacked to begin ($30 buy-in, $30 add-on at 2nd break).