Tourney Anyone ever thought about dropping the T25 chip and starting with a T50 chip ? (1 Viewer)

[ovo]

I was just thinking how the T25 can make some strange blinds, and I realize T50 and T100 are too close, but it's not the end of the world. Keep the 50 around for a few rounds. I wonder how it would fit in for antes ? Anyway, I was just thinking, anyone have any input ?

 

[TexRex]

I do have thoughts -- DON'T! If you want something like 50/250/1000, that's one thing, but 50/100/anything is not good. Two 25s is not a problem, and you can then go 75/150, but not with T50 as a base. It just limits the usefulness of the set.

 

[davin]

ive never seen a T50 in a game before

 

[upNdown]

When are we gonna get that poop smiley emoji thing?

 

[Mojo1312]

I was just thinking how the T25 can make some strange blinds, and I realize T50 and T100 are too close, but it's not the end of the world. Keep the 50 around for a few rounds. I wonder how it would fit in for antes ? Anyway, I was just thinking, anyone have any input ?

Do you mean antes in a stud tournament or antes in a NLHE tournament?

 

[upNdown]

On a serious note, the only reason I've been able to come up with for dropping the 25 is to conserve chips, and then I'd start with 100/100, probably for a double round. But then I guess I'd have to be using 100/500/2000 and I can't wrap my head around a 2000 chips.
So I'm keeping my 25's.

 

[Mojo1312]

I prefer T50's over T25's in a regular NLHE tourney.

50/100
50/150 (no different than 25/75)
100/200
150/300
etc.

A T25 ante would come into play at the 100/200 level.

A T50 ante at the 200/400 level.

300/600/100 (versus 300/600/75)
400/800/100
500/1000/100
600/1200/150
800/1600/200
1000/2000/300 or 250
1200/2400/300
1500/3000/400
2000/4000/500
2500/5000/600
3000/6000/800
4000/8000/1000
etc.

Less fuss imo.

 

[Mojo1312]

FWIW: I liked the looks of the T50 Milano chip better than I did their T25. Hence the experience of playing tournaments without a T25 chip. Quicker color-up.

 

[ovo]

Do you mean antes in a stud tournament or antes in a NLHE tournament?

I was thinking NLHE

 

[ovo]

thanks for the input, it seems that the games keep getting bigger T1000, T10000, T30000, T50000.

 

[TexRex]

Full House, tournaments really should be measured by how many BB they start with. The starting number itself means little. A T1000 with T1 as a base and T1/2 starting blinds is a much larger starting stack than a T10,000 with a T25 base and T25/50 starting blinds (500BB vs. 200BB).

It does seem to me over the years that the number of BB is increasing over time. There might be some who like bigger numbers, but adding zeroes is doesn't by itself make the game bigger. Perhaps the WSOP has something to do with that, though I was seeing that in home games before they starting increasing stack sizes.

 

[Wils]

ive never seen a T50 in a game before

You'll quite often get them in cheaper eBay sets and the like (below CC level but above dice chips).

When I got my first CPS set one of the comments was "yeah they're ok but where's the 50?"

 

[BGinGA]

Lot of bar tournaments use T50 chips. T10 sometimes, too. :

 

[TexRex]

I can see T50s when there is a T10, but the next chip up becomes a challenge. I'm not sure how much logic and thought went in to the purchase of some bar league sets and some home sets.

I used to play in a game with (T values) -- 25/50/100/500/1,000/5,000/10,000/50,000. I used to play in a cash game with ($ values) -- .01/.05/.10/.25/.50/1. So I showed up for the cash game with a .01/.05/.25/1 set. I was teased about the lack of .10 and .50 (a lot -- quite entertaining!), but players admitted it made way more sense and was easier to work with.

 

[ChaosRock]

I prefer T50's over T25's in a regular NLHE tourney.

50/100
50/150 (no different than 25/75)
100/200
150/300
etc.

A T25 ante would come into play at the 100/200 level.

A T50 ante at the 200/400 level.

300/600/100 (versus 300/600/75)
400/800/100
500/1000/100
600/1200/150
800/1600/200
1000/2000/300 or 250
1200/2400/300
1500/3000/400
2000/4000/500
2500/5000/600
3000/6000/800
4000/8000/1000
etc.

Less fuss imo.

Why do you like the above better than the below with T25:

50/100
75/150
100/200
150/300
etc.
+ starting the T25 antes when they are supposed to.

AND, you can decide to start at T25/T50 is you want, so more options.

The only advantage (for some, not me) I see with your preferred T50 is the numbers of chips needed.

 

[ovo]

I understand how the T25 fits better, I think I was thinking in a world where everything ends in zero

 

[DoubleEagle]

Lot of bar tournaments use T50 chips. T10 sometimes, too. :

Especially when they are dice chips because they are trying to figure out how to use all the different colors that came with their $40 set from Walmart.

 

[Seeking Alpha Social Club]

I was just thinking how the T25 can make some strange blinds, and I realize T50 and T100 are too close, but it's not the end of the world. Keep the 50 around for a few rounds. I wonder how it would fit in for antes ? Anyway, I was just thinking, anyone have any input ?

Yes sir!! I know it's different than most, but that's exactly what I did with my 44mm Alpha Shootout set. We never go up by $25 increments (start at 50/100), so I replaced the $25 with $50. It feels natural to us.

 

[colter ripton]

No

 

[Schmendr1ck]

My preference is the T25, mainly because I like the 4x jump to the T100 rather than a 2x jump.

I understand how the T25 fits better, I think I was thinking in a world where everything ends in zero

In my head, I couldn't help but hear this comment in Don Lafontaine's voice:

"IN A WORLD... where everything ends in zero..."

 

[Mojo1312]

Why do you like the above better than the below with T25:

50/100
75/150
100/200
150/300
etc.
+ starting the T25 antes when they are supposed to.

AND, you can decide to start at T25/T50 is you want, so more options.

The only advantage (for some, not me) I see with your preferred T50 is the numbers of chips needed.

I spend an inordinate amount of time breaking down and analyzing pay-out schedules and tournament structures. The O.P. asked "how it (a T50 chip) would fit in for antes?" Fantastic! IMO, the T25 is a nuisance chip when running a NLHE tournament that has antes. T50's are easier to race off and easier for players when it comes to posting their blinds. For some inexplicable reason, players need to to check the clock or be reminded as to how many green chips they need to post for an ante. Could be the simplicity of posting a single chip in the first few levels after the antes are introduced. (I really don't know why. I am only guessing. You have to try it.)

Maybe Seeking Alpha has something to say on the subject.

Also, I happen to like the colors traditionally used for higher denomination chips. I don't know what extra flexibility a T25 chip gives you when you can work your structure around to fit one or the other.

To note: I really don't see the necessity of having an ante for tournaments that have less than three tables. 2) A T25 chip for tournaments that don't use antes suits me fine.

 

[Seeking Alpha Social Club]

I spend an inordinate amount of time breaking down and analyzing pay-out schedules and tournament structures. The O.P. asked "how it (a T50 chip) would fit in for antes?" Fantastic! IMO, the T25 is a nuisance chip when running a NLHE tournament that has antes. T50's are easier to race off and easier for players when it comes to posting their blinds. For some inexplicable reason, players need to to check the clock or be reminded as to how many green chips they need to post for an ante. Could be the simplicity of posting a single chip in the first few levels after the antes are introduced. (I really don't know why. I am only guessing. You have to try it.)

Maybe Seeking Alpha has something to say on the subject.

Also, I happen to like the colors traditionally used for higher denomination chips. I don't know what extra flexibility a T25 chip gives you when you can work your structure around to fit one or the other.

To note: I really don't see the necessity of having an ante for tournaments that have less than three tables. 2) A T25 chip for tournaments that don't use antes suits me fine.

We do use antes, and IMO the T50 chip suits us nicely with respect to running off chips and posting antes. However, it's tough for me to compare to using T25 chips because all of the tournaments use T50. IMHO, 50 small blind increments just feel more natural and are easier for players to remember (especially the players that drink while they play). Again, it's what we have always done, so it's hard for me to say how a T25 tournament would feel compared to the T50.

 

[Gobbs]

If I had my way, standard denominations would be 25/100/500/2500/10000 I don't see the need for a T50 or T1000.

Of course, I'm also the guy who hates more than three colors on the table at the same time and has no problem with a boatload of chips in play (as long as I'm not the one who had to pay for them all).

 

[BGinGA]

If I had my way, standard denominations would be 25/100/500/2500/10000 I don't see the need for a T50 or T1000.

Of course, I'm also the guy who hates more than three colors on the table at the same time and has no problem with a boatload of chips in play (as long as I'm not the one who had to pay for them all).

One day you'll finally see the T2000 >> T2500 light.

 

[upNdown]

The more I think about it, the more a T50 makes sense, simply because you could use half (or fewer) as many, compared to T25s.
It seems counterintuitive, since we’re all married to the 4x/5x denom concept. But T50s could keep things cleaner and simpler, so why not?

 

[ChaosRock]

The more I think about it, the more a T50 makes sense, simply because you could use half (or fewer) as many, compared to T25s.
It seems counterintuitive, since we’re all married to the 4x/5x denom concept. But T50s could keep things cleaner and simpler, so why not?

Because it makes your set less flexible, because you still need a decent number of T50 to avoid too much change, because you're forced to have the 50/150 level and because (if you use antes) you'll have to start them later on. IMO of course.

 

[Gobbs]

One day you'll finally see the T2000 >> T2500 light.

I can get on board with that....that actually makes a lot of sense to me.

 

[ChaosRock]

Because it makes your set less flexible, because you still need a decent number of T50 to avoid too much change, because you're forced to have the 50/150 level and because (if you use antes) you'll have to start them later on. IMO of course.

And just to clarify: that's is based on the way I personaly like to run my tourneys, structures and starting stacks. Just like the T2K for me is way better than the T1K, and many people here hate it. I would never question someone like @Seeking Alpha Social Club and the use he has for his T50. He knows his shit.

 

[Seeking Alpha Social Club]

And just to clarify: that's is based on the way I personaly like to run my tourneys, structures and starting stacks. Just like the T2K for me is way better than the T1K, and many people here hate it. I would never question someone like @Seeking Alpha Social Club and the use he has for his T50. He knows his shit.

LOL...my wife might disagree with you, but thanks for the endorsement. Honestly, it's just what we are used to.

 

[BGinGA]

I could certainly be persuaded to at least try a T50-base format, given my liking of how well a similar T500-base set/format works out in actual practice.

But at first glance, the biggest reason to not do it is probably because using T25s means, well,..... MOAR CHIPES.

But these are pretty good reasons, too:

Because it makes your set less flexible, because you still need a decent number of T50 to avoid too much change, because you're forced to have the 50/150 level and because (if you use antes) you'll have to start them later on.