ExileExistence
High Hand
Hi everyone,
so I know this is a huge topic and has already been discussed in several threads, but I am trying to simplify and summarize my knowledge so far and ask for specific and final advice (and the opinion of people with more practice).
Here are my requirements:
I also found the Poker Chip Selection Tool here on PCF, which was very helpful, but leaving me with a breakdown for 400 chips, so still 100 chips left to spend.
I loved the chip breakdown of Chris Manzoni, but as already said, I want to be prepared to cover different starting stacks (e.g. 12xT25 and 12xT100 instead of 8x) and since the chip case is for 500 chips anyway... again room left for more chips.
Depending on different starting stacks distributions and multiplying the numbers with 10 (my max player count), I was already able to come up with a minimum amount per chip:
125 x T25
125 x T100
75 x T500
75 x T1000
50 x T5000
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Total of 450 chips. Since my chip case comes with 500 chips, I have 50 more chips to spend and thats where I would like to gather some advice from you.
So I often read about the 4:3:2:1:1 ratio, especially for sets with T25, T100, T500, T1000, T5000 chips. This means giving more weight to lower denomination chips and resulting in:
150 x T25
150 x T100
75 x T500
75 x T1000
50 x T5000
Having lower denomination chips might prevent running out of those chips, especially when chip exchanges are necesarry due to people having no chips left for Small Blinds or Big Blinds. On the other hand, I know that the T25s will be colored-up after the 5th round, so about 1.5 hours of play (in my blind structure of 20mins per level) and have no use then whatsoever. But most of my casual games will probably be faster games anyway (so with a 5k starting stack), so covering this range might be sufficient, while still being able to play full tournaments with 20k starting stacks until the end (4hours).
So I often saw recommendations for including more 1000 chips to handle the coloring-up process and since they are "the main chip" in the middle and later game phase. This would lead me to:
125 x T25
125 x T100
75 x T500
100 x T1000
50 x T5000
with still 25 chips to be distributed (probably more increasing T100 to 150 then?).
Then I was thinking about increasing the number of T500s, but often people call this an "ante" chip, and put more emphasis on the T1000.
I also thought about getting some T25000, although most recommendations say that this chip will nearly never be used in my setup (logical, since a single chip covers half or the whole starting stack of a player), so instead of getting a 25 chip role of T25000 in my case, I think I will just buy around 10x T25000 in addition to my case, just have them.
And on some other Blogs I found distributions like this (similar to my first one with enough lower denomination chips but with an additional role of T1000):
150 x T25
150 x T100
75 x T500
100 x T1000
50 x T5000
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Total of 525 Chips (additional 25 to my 500 chip case)
That's where I am currently at. And my minimum chip distribution already fulfills most requirements and advice, so I think deciding on the last 50 chips won't get me off track. But I just want to make it "perfect".
Whats your opinion on these breakdowns? Which would you recommend? Whats your experience with similar setups? Ever ran out of a specific denomination or had plenty left that was never used? Thanks in advance!
By the way: I also accumulated knowledge about perfect blind levels and starting stack distribution, so if anyone wants me to share them here aswell, let me know.
so I know this is a huge topic and has already been discussed in several threads, but I am trying to simplify and summarize my knowledge so far and ask for specific and final advice (and the opinion of people with more practice).
Here are my requirements:
- 500 chip case
- Tournaments with a T25 base
- Mainly No Limit Texas Hold'em
- Single table, up to 10 people
- Starting stacks of 20-30 chips per player and may vary between 5k (fast) and 30k (long), depending on how long I want the game to last
- 25/50 Starting Blinds (exponentially increasing)
- For a nicer look in the case, I prefer even rolls of 25 chips
- 5 denominations: T25, T100, T500, T1000, T5000
- Be able to handle rebuys (but planning to cap them to a single rebuy per person)
- Be able to handle antes later in the game
I also found the Poker Chip Selection Tool here on PCF, which was very helpful, but leaving me with a breakdown for 400 chips, so still 100 chips left to spend.
I loved the chip breakdown of Chris Manzoni, but as already said, I want to be prepared to cover different starting stacks (e.g. 12xT25 and 12xT100 instead of 8x) and since the chip case is for 500 chips anyway... again room left for more chips.
Depending on different starting stacks distributions and multiplying the numbers with 10 (my max player count), I was already able to come up with a minimum amount per chip:
125 x T25
125 x T100
75 x T500
75 x T1000
50 x T5000
--------------
Total of 450 chips. Since my chip case comes with 500 chips, I have 50 more chips to spend and thats where I would like to gather some advice from you.
So I often read about the 4:3:2:1:1 ratio, especially for sets with T25, T100, T500, T1000, T5000 chips. This means giving more weight to lower denomination chips and resulting in:
150 x T25
150 x T100
75 x T500
75 x T1000
50 x T5000
Having lower denomination chips might prevent running out of those chips, especially when chip exchanges are necesarry due to people having no chips left for Small Blinds or Big Blinds. On the other hand, I know that the T25s will be colored-up after the 5th round, so about 1.5 hours of play (in my blind structure of 20mins per level) and have no use then whatsoever. But most of my casual games will probably be faster games anyway (so with a 5k starting stack), so covering this range might be sufficient, while still being able to play full tournaments with 20k starting stacks until the end (4hours).
So I often saw recommendations for including more 1000 chips to handle the coloring-up process and since they are "the main chip" in the middle and later game phase. This would lead me to:
125 x T25
125 x T100
75 x T500
100 x T1000
50 x T5000
with still 25 chips to be distributed (probably more increasing T100 to 150 then?).
Then I was thinking about increasing the number of T500s, but often people call this an "ante" chip, and put more emphasis on the T1000.
I also thought about getting some T25000, although most recommendations say that this chip will nearly never be used in my setup (logical, since a single chip covers half or the whole starting stack of a player), so instead of getting a 25 chip role of T25000 in my case, I think I will just buy around 10x T25000 in addition to my case, just have them.
And on some other Blogs I found distributions like this (similar to my first one with enough lower denomination chips but with an additional role of T1000):
150 x T25
150 x T100
75 x T500
100 x T1000
50 x T5000
-------------
Total of 525 Chips (additional 25 to my 500 chip case)
That's where I am currently at. And my minimum chip distribution already fulfills most requirements and advice, so I think deciding on the last 50 chips won't get me off track. But I just want to make it "perfect".
Whats your opinion on these breakdowns? Which would you recommend? Whats your experience with similar setups? Ever ran out of a specific denomination or had plenty left that was never used? Thanks in advance!
By the way: I also accumulated knowledge about perfect blind levels and starting stack distribution, so if anyone wants me to share them here aswell, let me know.
Highly appreciated. I now ordered the following amount which was my conclusion after reading all those threads, blogs and your answers here. This is what I consider the best compromise:
