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Full House
La La Land.......no wait. It's moonlight.....no it's JAWS. BIZZARO WORLD
Somewhere Steve Harvey is feeling so vindicated.
I only saw Hidden Figures, so I can't comment on who deserved it...
Politics and political correctness simply have no business in show business... Unfortunately, the injection of PC into the Oscars hasn't done anything to improve their legitimacy. When you use race as a determining factor in the movie's worthiness of an Oscar, it delegitimized every award. People who won Oscars in 2017 should have an * next to their name in the history books... Was this the affirmative action year for the Oscars?
Black people won = affirmative action. Says more about you than Hollywood imo.
No, when ppl win (or anything is considered) for other than the merits of the movie, then I think thats not right. I heard many anylists saying (even before the broadcast) that "the academy" was responding to complaints that the awards were "too white".
I think the problem is you've decided to take someone else's opinion on a Hollywood race issue and run with it as fact on a poker forumNo, when ppl win (or anything is considered) for other than the merits of the movie, then I think thats not right. I heard many anylists saying (even before the broadcast) that "the academy" was responding to complaints that the awards were "too white".
That is certainly not a loaded questionSo what things were the voters supporting other than the movie in your opinion?
That is certainly not a loaded question
Lol, racial issues are a touchy subject with me. I grew up experiencing race relations from a different viewpoint. My family is bi-racial (black step father). I grew up experiencing racism from both sides. I also feel the brunt of a lot of racial tension going on in society today. I have attended countless hours of racial and implicit bias training. However I have no time for political correctness. If you think that you've caught me in some racist statement, and that I'm digging a grave for myself, LOL.
I also have no time for an in-depth analysis and debate on an awards program that has very little viewership, and questionable validity (imho). My statement was simply that the Oscars have introduced political correctness and politics into their awards. If people think that's acceptable, then feel free to watch. However this is nothing new. Carry on.
And I did catch that final 5 minutes (wife had it on in bed). The dudes from LLL were class acts.
What evidence leads you to believe that the oscars introduced political correctness and politics into their awards?
LOL, The Rock's look is priceless
Politics and political correctness simply have no business in show business
Given the events of last summer, the better question is, what would make you think they haven't?
Generally the burden is on people making assertions to show some evidence of their assertion. I made no assertion about the oscars becoming more political. @Triharder did. I just asked for his evidence.
Generally the burden is on people making assertions to show some evidence of their assertion. I made no assertion about the oscars becoming more political. @Triharder did. I just asked for his evidence.
By the way, the sky is blue..
This not a trial... lol
It's the internet, where I can make all sorts of crazy claims without having to fulfill some burden of proof...
By the way, the sky is blue.. just don't ask me how I know.
But seriously, claiming that Hollywood (and the Oscars) are political, is not much of an accusation. Now if I had made a personal attack, or accusation against someone here on this forum, then I think it is reasonable to ask someone for evidence to support their claim. But as it stands, I'm not one who likes to argue just for the sake of arguing. Especially for something as trivial as the Oscars Carry on.
When you use race as a determining factor in the movie's worthiness of an Oscar, it delegitimized every award. People who won Oscars in 2017 should have an * next to their name in the history books... Was this the affirmative action year for the Oscars?
The message that comes across has been "plebians, build bridges, not walls! Walls are for elite white people like us!
I don't care what they're saying: a four hour live award show where Hollywood pats itself on the back is antiquated. Awkward speeches and huge gaps between awards make it unwatchable for me. If they could knock the whole thing out in about 1.5 hours I would probably watch more of it.