And the academy award for best picture goes to.... (1 Viewer)

Claims of "rigged" or "legitimacy" are fallacious statements. Voters make their picks based on whatever criteria they wish. Who gives a rats-ass if race was an issue this year? Hasn't it been that way forever? Would "West Side Story" been nominated in 1961 (let alone won) if it featured a black cast?

There is no criteria for the Oscars. Winners are simply "picked". They're not the top grossing movies, not the longest in-theatre runs. There is no tangible measurement. In fact, It's mostly about advertising. It's just a buisness.

If you want 20 minutes to explain how wrong you are in thinking that it's about the "Best Picture", I strongly recommend this...

In the meantime, I'll go back to arguing the legitimacy of HoF chip voting - which is undeniably influenced by color.
 
Politics and political correctness simply have no business in show business... Unfortunately, the injection of PC into the Oscars hasn't done anything to improve their legitimacy. When you use race as a determining factor in the movie's worthiness of an Oscar, it delegitimized every award. People who won Oscars in 2017 should have an * next to their name in the history books... Was this the affirmative action year for the Oscars?

I was rooting for Arrival. I guess if it had won you'd have a rant about aliens.
 
then this year a movie that grossed $26 million in 5 months now wins the best picture??????????

Sorry mummel, but I have to disagree with this.....otherwise The Avengers, X-Men, Star Wars and every other action flick would win every year.............it has nothing to do with box office gross....
 
Sorry mummel, but I have to disagree with this.....otherwise The Avengers, X-Men, Star Wars and every other action flick would win every year.............it has nothing to do with box office gross....

Then again, Lego Batman has grossed like $150 million in 2 weeks!!!!!!

Legoman oscar incoming in 3-2-1 ")

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Interesting:

Around 7,000 members of the Academy of Motion Picture Arts and Sciences vote, and final voting takes place just two weeks before the ceremony, so a lot rests on which names are being talked about at that time.

Of all Academy members, 89% are white and 73% are male. And that's after the Academy's recent attempts to make its membership more diverse.


http://www.bbc.com/news/entertainment-arts-38884691
 
This is also really interesting. Seems like you have to be sponsored by two academy members to be considered for membership, similar to an elite country club.

https://www.oscars.org/about/join-academy

I can see how the voters who decide who wins an Oscar could be unintentionally biased (merely by coming from the same backgrounds etc). Im sure Hollywood is so overly PC these days but still, you cannot rule out an inherent, unintentional bias if 3/4 of the Oscar voters are white males.

I wish the press would report on relevant facts and figures like this so the public can draw their own conclusions, rather than pushing a headline about how The Academy is a bunch of racists. OMFG its exhausting.

A good first step would be to open up membership applications to the public and accept members based on personal achievement and merit, and try and balance the 7000 members to make it more representative of what the US demographic landscape looks like (age/gender/race etc). You may get a better representation of how 320 million people feel about a given film.

However, from that BBC article, it makes sense that the benchmark for an Oscar should be a movie that will "stand the test of time". If people watch The Titanic in 50 years, will it still have impact? So you do need a select few, highly experienced and an educated bunch to decide this because the public cant be fully relied on (Like I said, a Lego Batman Oscar hahahaha??!!!!).

So why not setup a house/senate structure of voters? One branch that represents the public, and another that represents experienced professionals in the industry? Perhaps then you would get a better idea of what movies will stand the test of time that the public loves.
 
Alternatively, you could list the films where the Academy got it wrong. Pretty strong list it seems to me.
 
Saving Private Ryan > Shakespeare in Love
Taxi Driver > Rocky (and I love Rocky)
Citizen Kane > How Green Was My Valley

just to name a few
 
Damn some other massively stupid choices.

The Social Network > The King's Speech (2010)
Brokeback Mountain > Crash (2005)
Mystic River > LOTR: ROTK (2003)
Gangs of New York > Chicago (2002)
Fargo > The English Patient (1996)
Goodfellas > Dances with Wolves (1990)
Born on the Fourth of July > Driving Miss Daisy (1989)
Apocalypse Now > Kramer v. Kramer (1979)
Dr. Strangelove > My Fair Lady (1964)
High Noon > Greatest Show on Earth (1952)
 
Damn some other massively stupid choices.

The Social Network > The King's Speech (2010)
Brokeback Mountain > Crash (2005)
Mystic River > LOTR: ROTK (2003)
Gangs of New York > Chicago (2002)
Fargo > The English Patient (1996)
Goodfellas > Dances with Wolves (1990)
Born on the Fourth of July > Driving Miss Daisy (1989)
Apocalypse Now > Kramer v. Kramer (1979)
Dr. Strangelove > My Fair Lady (1964)
High Noon > Greatest Show on Earth (1952)

I'd have to agree with most of these, although some are close. I'm less certain the result is due to political correctness or the errant choices of old white men.
 
I, of course, would easily say:

Star Wars ANH >>>>> Annie Hall (1977)....................... ;)
But you can't tell anymore by my new Avatar...
 
Damn some other massively stupid choices.

The Social Network > The King's Speech (2010)
Brokeback Mountain > Crash (2005)
Mystic River > LOTR: ROTK (2003)
Gangs of New York > Chicago (2002)
Fargo > The English Patient (1996)
Goodfellas > Dances with Wolves (1990)
Born on the Fourth of July > Driving Miss Daisy (1989)
Apocalypse Now > Kramer v. Kramer (1979)
Dr. Strangelove > My Fair Lady (1964)
High Noon > Greatest Show on Earth (1952)

I agree with most of this list, but I just don't get the love for The Social Network.
 
Damn some other massively stupid choices.
Born on the Fourth of July > Driving Miss Daisy (1989)
Apocalypse Now > Kramer v. Kramer (1979)

u wot m8? Didn't realize that. Those are better by days.

I, of course, would easily say:
But you can't tell anymore by my new Avatar...

I just imagine the Rock is looking at the Death Star for the first time!
 

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