Affordable chips + hotstamp (1 Viewer)

[Larold]

I need to build as affordable a set of chips as possible for tourneys. Will start at 20-30 players first few months, max 40. Could easily grow to 50-60, even peaking at 80 theoretically in a year or two. It is absolutely required to have a 6-7 digit number, the same number across all chips, permanently marked on each chip, probably a few letters too. I assumed hot-stamping was the way to go. Minimum frills needed for the chips - just need them to last for years, assuming 3-4 uses per year. I have a few questions / assists needed:

• Assuming some tourneys will start with T5 as lowest denom and others are T25 lowest denom, can some folks help specify recommended chip counts / denoms for 50 person tournaments? Assume, in general, heavy rebuying and add-ons.
• Can I multiply by 1.6 to get recommended count for 80-person tourneys?
• Are there shops / companies that can provide both the chips and stamping for reasonable prices?
• If the answer above is 'no', does one take say a bunch of super diamonds to a print shop for the stamping? Curious how this gets done in general.

Thanks all!

 

[NotRealNameNoSir]

Do you want each chip to have a different number stamped or all the same? To hotstamp all the chips needed for an 80 person tournament would be insanely expensive, my first thought for a few times a year huge set is ceramics.

 

[Tonystark137]

Why the requirement for hotstamps?

 

[Larold]

Do you want each chip to have a different number stamped or all the same? To hotstamp all the chips needed for an 80 person tournament would be insanely expensive, my first thought for a few times a year huge set is ceramics.

All the same number/letter sequence. 80 is an extreme; I anticipate standard needs will be 30-50.

 

[Larold]

Why the requirement for hotstamps?

Not necessarily hot stamps but some kind of permanent marking. It's a legal requirement for the intended use.

 

[louBdub]

Slow. Down.

 

[Tonystark137]

Slow. Down.

^ This specially if legality is something you got to worry about.

AFAIK, Hotstamps are not permanent either.

With such a large venue of players and only 3 or 4 times a year , I would go the Tina route. Chips are denominated on the face, cheap enough for 1600~3200 chips depending on how many you need / various structure.

 

[Josh Kifer]

Hot stamping would require a new Die for each different number, so that's gonna be an expensive requirement if you go the hot stamping route.

 

[NotRealNameNoSir]

All the same number/letter sequence. 80 is an extreme; I anticipate standard needs will be 30-50.

Sure, someone else will give you a better chip breakdown but you're still talking atleast 1000 chips; blank clay chip can cost anything from $1 to $4+, then hotstamping is another buck or two per chip. Will add up pretty quickly.

The long digit number would look much worse as a stamp, I think a printed inlay or ceramic would be a better choice.

 

[Josh Kifer]

If it's all the same number, then it's doable, but it ain't gonna be cheap.

 

[Josh Kifer]

build as affordable a set of chips as possible for tourneys for 50 people (possibly up to 80)

someone else will give you a better chip breakdown but you're still talking atleast 1000 chips;

1000 chips for an 80 people tourney? Lol. I NEED to know this breakdown.....

 

[NotRealNameNoSir]

1000 chips for an 80 people tourney? Lol. I NEED to know this breakdown.....

Lol, was answering at the most conservative for the 30 person range! But good call.

 

[Larold]

^ This specially if legality is something you got to worry about.

AFAIK, Hotstamps are not permanent either.

With such a large venue of players and only 3 or 4 times a year , I would go the Tina route. Chips are denominated on the face, cheap enough for 1600~3200 chips depending on how many you need / various structure.

All the legal aspects have been scrutinized and accounted for. Good to know about the hot stamps - thanks.

Unfortunately I think the Tina route might be a bit expensive for the organization that would be buying; I can't see them wanting to spend more than a -few- hundred $$, emphasis on few. Even at bulk rates + shipping + free design, I'd have to think the Tinas would come to over 40 cents a piece. I think they're willing to take a big hit on max number of players before they're willing to shell out for chips, but I may be wrong. Especially since tourneys can recur but chips are a one-time expense. I'll talk to them.

I can't help but wonder if we could all grab some super diamonds and spend a couple hours with ten of us writing the number on all the chips with permanent marker. Ugly, but it gets the job done.

 

[Larold]

Hot stamping would require a new Die for each different number, so that's gonna be an expensive requirement if you go the hot stamping route.

I don't need different numbers. Same number across all chips.

 

[NotRealNameNoSir]

All the legal aspects have been scrutinized and accounted for. Good to know about the hot stamps - thanks.

Unfortunately I think the Tina route might be a bit expensive for the organization that would be buying; I can't see them wanting to spend more than a -few- hundred $$, emphasis on few. Even at bulk rates + shipping + free design, I'd have to think the chips would come to over 40 cents a piece. I think they're willing to take a big hit on max number of players before they're willing to shell out for chips, but I may be wrong. Especially since tourneys can recur but chips are a one-time expense. I'll talk to them.

I can't help but wonder if we could all grab some super diamonds and spend a couple hours with ten of us writing the number on all the chips with permanent marker. Ugly, but it gets the job done.

Okay, if youre only spending a few hundred on a tournament set for that many people you're right. Hotstamping and customs are way out of your budget. Might be dice chips or the diamonds and markers.

 

[Josh Kifer]

I don't need different numbers. Same number across all chips.

So, doable. Making the stamp is relatively cheap. 20 bucks or so. Need both sides or one side?

 

[Larold]

Okay, if youre only spending a few hundred on a tournament set for that many people you're right. Hotstamping and customs are way out of your budget. Might be dice chips or the diamonds and markers.

That's what I was wondering. Dice chips are those plinky plastic red-white-blue ones we grew up with grandpa and grandma having in the games closet, right?

 

[Larold]

So, doable. Making the stamp is relatively cheap. 20 bucks or so. Need both sides or one side?

Fantastic question! Only one side.

 

[Tonystark137]

I don't need different numbers. Same number across all chips.

How are you going to use the same numbers on all chips for a tournment?

Tina is the definition of budget friendly, I think Justin's recent group buy is

Textured No-Mold
39 mm- $.34 each
43 mm- $.45 each

Cards Mold
39mm- $.40
43mm- $.45

 

[Josh Kifer]

Fantastic question! Only one side.

So. I would charge .45 cents a chip for that. One side would cut the cost well.

 

[Josh Kifer]

How are you going to use the same numbers on all chips for a tournment?

Tina is the definition of budget friendly, I think Justin's recent group buy is

Textured No-Mold
39 mm- $.34 each
43 mm- $.45 each

Cards Mold
39mm- $.40
43mm- $.45

He's talking about the serial number on the chip, they would have different denoms.

 

[chippitydoodah]

Buy Josh's chips. You can scratch the numbers/letters in the hooker juice

 

[Tonystark137]

He's talking about the serial number on the chip, they would have different denoms.

Ah that makes sense...

 

[louBdub]

This is all so odd.

My man, if Tina chips are too expensive…. You’re on the wrong website.

 

[LeLe]

This is all so odd.

My man, if Tina chips are too expensive…. You’re on the wrong website.

I just about to say the same thing

Tina chip is the definition of budget/cheap around here

 

[Larold]

I just about to say the same thing

Tina chip is the definition of budget/cheap around here

This is a non-profit organization that doesn't have the budget even for Tina's, but this is a forum of experts so that's why I asked.

 

[LeLe]

This is a non-profit organization that doesn't have the budget even for Tina's, but this is a forum of experts so that's why I asked.

That's why it so out of place here, because you are not going to find much options cheaper than Tina here.

Even just Hotstamping is a more expensive option.

How much of a budget are you talking about because 8 table T5 with 10/10/7/2 or T25 Tourney with 8/8/4/7 configuration will need around 2,400 chips.

 

[Colquhoun]

34 cents apiece is about as inexpensive as you’ll find for a custom chip.
The trouble with writing in sharpie on a dice chip is that anyone can do that. Security is the problem there, as grandma’s closet is full of them, and they could easily be slipped into your game.

 

[Larold]

That's why it so out of place here, because you are not going to find much options cheaper than Tina here.

Even just Hotstamping is a more expensive option.

How much of a budget are you talking about because 8 table T5 with 10/10/7/2 or T25 Tourney with 8/8/4/7 configuration will need around 2,400 chips.

I'm going back to edit the original post - 80 is an extreme that wouldn't happen for awhile. Starting out will be 20-30, maybe 40 max. I don't know the exact budget but if I had to guess, $200 USD for chips easily doable, absolute max $500 unless I'm told otherwise. I was under the mistaken impression from an old post that hot stamping was only a few cents per chip.

 

[LeLe]

I don't know the exact budget but if I had to guess, $200 USD for chips easily doable, absolute max $500 unless I'm told otherwise

If budget is an issue and a main concern going forward and I am the one helping.

I will be asking the NPO how much the budget will be and also what the requirement will be before anything.