Cash Game $5/$10 chip breakdown with 600 chips (1 Viewer)

[T_Chan]

Looking for some help for an ideal breakdown for a cash game, $5/$10 with roughly 600 to 1000 chips.

Single table, 10 player max. I figure 500BB per player is a safe number, so $50k bank.

$5 x 200
$25 x 200
$100 x 200
$500 x 50

650 total chips with a bank of $51k.

Part of me feels that I don't need so many 5's. Maybe tune it down to 100 or 150 5's, and bump up the number of 500's for a bigger bank? Or should I just bump up the number of 25's and 100's to x300 each?

 

[fish72s]

If you want more chips with the same bank then you could always go with a $1000 chip instead of a $500.

 

[Psypher1000]

I recently had a number of discussions regarding this. The $25 becomes a workhorse chip in a $5/$10 game like the $5 is a workhorse in a $1/$2 game. I'd go with something closer to this:

200x $5
500x $25
200x $100
40x $500 (and really I'd go with 80x $500 to fill up the rack, because chips, or maybe 40 more hundos)
20x $1000

If you were looking to economize you could scratch out a rack of hundreds as you still have sufficient bank with a single rack of hundos and the 60 high denoms. If you really needed to pinch I guess you could cut a rack of $5's, too, but I'm not sure I'd do that, particularly if tips are accepted or a rake is taken.

If you didn't want to go the route of $1k's then three racks of black and two barrels of $500 still gives you your bank. Depending on the players, three racks of black may be more useful to you. Anywho, my primary point is a breakdown closer to 1000 chips is more optimal than 600, and I wouldn't try the game with anything less than 400 $25's.

 

[crussader]

I would do starting stacks of 10/30/2.

For the 40 rebuys, I would do the first 10 using 10x$100. For the remaining 30, I would use 2x$500. Using this structure you would need:

100 x $5
300 x $25
120 x $100
60 x $500

 

[T_Chan]

I was contemplating this, but thought 10x $5's might not be enough, everyone looking for change all the time for blinds.

Thanks for the input everyone. I'll go over this with my customers to figure out what breakdown they want to go for, more chips or less.

 

[Rhodeman77]

Watching vlogs of Andrew Nemee and others that play at the Belagio $5/10 game the workhorse chips is actually the $10 chip.

When they buy in for $1500 they get a rack of $10 and the rest in $100's.

The $10 and $100 are basically the only chips used for play and some big chips when players rebuy from their pockets.

 

[AWenger]

Watching vlogs of Andrew Nemee and others that play at the Belagio $5/10 game the workhouse chips is actually the $10 chip.

When they buy in for $1500 they get a rack of $10 and the rest in $100's.

The $10 and $100 are basically the only chips used for play and some big chips when players rebuy from their pockets.

I was going to mention this, too. Glad I read all the way down first. I thought it was strange when I first saw the $10 chips being used in some of his vlogs, but after I saw it in play, the idea warmed up to me. In those vlogs, I seem to recall players only having just a few $5s in their stacks, like fewer than 10, and maybe even just 2 or 3, but that's a raked game, of-course, so a lot of those $5s end up in the toke box. The Aria has a similar orange colored $10 chip that the Bellagio uses, but I don't know what chips Aria uses in their $5/10 game.

Of course, the whether a $10 even makes sense depend on what denoms are available, or what chips you already are using. Other $5/$10 games use $5s, $25s & $100s.

Another related item is if there is going to be a dedicated dealer, dealing for tips, or a rake, etc. then some $1 chips and maybe more $5 may be needed, although these could be managed and distributed out of the dealer tray. And in $5/10 games, the $1 chips generally don't play, they're just there for tips -- they don't count as all-in, but this might be true just for single $1 chips below increments of 5.

If you want more chips with the same bank then you could always go with a $1000 chip instead of a $500.

I like this idea. I've seen the $5/$10 game at MGM National Harbor (buy in, is $700-$2500, IIRC), and I did not see any $500 chips on the table, but they used $1000s (which are oversize, and more visible). One player broke out a couple $500 chips to buy-in, and the dealer/floor brought 2 barrels of $25 chips from the cart, rather than having a player next to him with a huge stack make change. I got the sense that the dealer/floor wanted to keep the $500 chips off the table, so the chips wouldn't be accidentally be confused or stacked with the $100 chips since they are the same size, but the $1000 chips were OK because they are oversize and bright orange.