Tourney 400 pc Rounders Tourney set breakdown help

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I am going to order a 400 chip set of Rounders in the GB and am looking for a little help for breakdown on the denoms. I am thinking I will buy a 400 acrylic bird cage for these to show them off, so my first reaction is to order the following:

all original colors
$5 X 100
$25 X 100
$100 X 100
$500 x 100

Four full racks to show off and perfectly balanced to the naked eye in the cage on the shelf.

I will also order oversized:
$1000 X 20
$5000 X 10
I may bump these up to 30 and 20 respectively (these won't be in the cage, I may make a custom wood case down the road for the whole set)

My breakdown thoughts are:
T5k starting stacks (9 person)
T5 X 5
T25 X 11
T100 X 7
T500 X 6
T1000 x1

I believe there should be enough T5 and T25 left to make a tenth starting T5K starting stack as well

I should also have 30 more T100 to color up T5 and T25 and 20 more T500 to color up T100 if ever needed.

Obviously I can do larger starting stacks with the extra T500, T1000, and T5000

My question(s) to you is: does four full racks make sense and are there better starting breakdowns using four full racks, or should I start with a better overall breakdown for my total chips?

Feel free to point out any errors in my thinking. We play a few tourneys but I have a 1000 chip YAK set that we use for 8-10 guys usually so I don't worry about chip efficiency (is that the right way to say that???)

Thanks
Aaron
 
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I'm not the best with breakdowns so I'll leave most of it the xberts. But having 100 of each denom doesn't give you enough 25s for your starting stacks. 9x13=117

so I would go
60x5
140x25
100x100
100x500

400 chips. Enough extra of each denom for a 10th person and color ups.
 

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100 chips each and 9 players means a max of 11 chips per player for each denom.

10 - 5s
10 - 25s
7 - 100s
8 - 500s

35 chips for a T5k and enough 100s to color up the 5s and 25s if needed
 

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Especially if you are trying to limit the total number of chips, even/full racks wont really work.

Another thought: in the Rounders movie, I don't recall them ever using the $5 chips in play, so you really want to maximize the $25s, $100s and $500s, which were featured in the movie. The below breakdown does that.

Anyway, I don't know if this fits your parameters, but if you are willing to ditch the $5 chips and are willing to increase your set to 600 chips, here's what I went with for a 20 person T10,000 tourney set, with plenty of T5,000 chips for color-ups and rebuys:

160 x T25
160 x T100
80 x T500
140 x T1000
60 x T5000

TOTAL BANK: T500,000

600 chips. Starting stacks of 8/8/4/7. Do a search on the blue site for "BCC GCR" and "Goph" and you'll see a couple breakdown threads on the ideal T10K breakdown. My breakdown above is super flexible for all tourneys up to 20 players, and allows you to have T10K starting stacks, which I think is the most popular starting stack size. You'll also have more than enough chips for color-ups and rebuys/add-ons.

Other than the fact that the $1000s and $5000s are oversized, 600 chips would fit perfectly in a 600 chip birdcage (or you could store the 400 smaller ones in the 400 chip birdcage and the oversized chips separately).

Also, I suggest buying a few spares of each denom in case of Murphy.
 
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I'd get 100/100/100/100
Starting stacks 10/10/7/8 as mentioned above. You have enough T100s to colour up the T5s & T25s. & enough T500s to colour up the T100s (not that you're likely to bother).
The T1000s & T5000s don't add anything to the playability of the set imo. They'd be purely decorative.
 

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I'm not the best with breakdowns so I'll leave most of it the xberts. But having 100 of each denom doesn't give you enough 25s for your starting stacks. 9x13=117

so I would go
60x5
140x25
100x100
100x500

400 chips. Enough extra of each denom for a 10th person and color ups.


Whoops! edited first post to reflect change to T25 starting numbers (11 instead of 13)

The tenth person would use the remaining 55 X T5 and the remaining T25 to get to 100 and they would start with 4 T100 and an extra T500 to get to the first 1K

Full racks may not work very soundly though. We usually have seven to nine regulars depending on work schedules

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Especially if you are trying to limit the total number of chips, even/full racks wont really work.

Another thought: in the Rounders movie, I don't recall them ever using the $5 chips in play, so you really want to maximize the $25s, $100s and $500s, which were featured in the movie. The below breakdown does that.

Anyway, I don't know if this fits your parameters, but if you are willing to ditch the $5 chips and are willing to increase your set to 600 chips, here's what I went with for a 20 person T10,000 tourney set, with plenty of T5,000 chips for color-ups and rebuys:

160 x T25
160 x T100
80 x T500
140 x T1000
60 x T5000

TOTAL BANK: T500,000

600 chips. Starting stacks of 8/8/4/7. Do a search on the blue site for "BCC GCR" and "Goph" and you'll see a couple breakdown threads on the ideal T10K breakdown. My breakdown above is super flexible for all tourneys up to 20 players, and allows you to have T10K starting stacks, which I think is the most popular starting stack size. You'll also have more than enough chips for color-ups and rebuys/add-ons.

Other than the fact that the $1000s and $5000s are oversized, 600 chips would fit perfectly in a 600 chip birdcage (or you could store the 400 smaller ones in the 400 chip birdcage and the oversized chips separately).

Also, I suggest buying a few spares of each denom in case of Murphy.


Thanks

Currently I really can only afford 400 with a custom set(s) on the horizon. Definitely planned on gettin extras my OCD wouldn't be able to take the thought if a barrel being short

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I'd get 100/100/100/100
Starting stacks 10/10/7/8 as mentioned above. You have enough T100s to colour up the T5s & T25s. & enough T500s to colour up the T100s (not that you're likely to bother).
The T1000s & T5000s don't add anything to the playability of the set imo. They'd be purely decorative.


Hmmm, I like that breakdown.
 

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A perfect-efficiency set of 400 chips (5/25/100/500) for a 10 player T5000 tournament would use the following starting stacks and have the following breakdown:

T5000 starting stack:
10 x T5
10 x T25
12 x T100
7 x T500
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39 chips = T5000 (plus bounty chip = two full barrels)

Chip set:
100 x T5
100 x T25
125 x T100
75 x T500
------
400 total chips

The extra 5 x T100 chips are needed to color-up the T5 chips, and the extra 5 x T500 chips are needed to color up the T25 chips. With 10 players, all chips in the set will see play (doesn't get more efficient than that).
 

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A perfect-efficiency set of 400 chips (5/25/100/500) for a 10 player T5000 tournament would use the following starting stacks and have the following breakdown:

T5000 starting stack:
10 x T5
10 x T25
12 x T100
7 x T500
-------
39 chips = T5000 (plus bounty chip = two full barrels)

Chip set:
100 x T5
100 x T25
125 x T100
75 x T500
------
400 total chips

The extra 5 x T100 chips are needed to color-up the T5 chips, and the extra 5 x T500 chips are needed to color up the T25 chips. With 10 players, all chips in the set will see play (doesn't get more efficient than that).

Beautiful!

BGinGA I was hoping you would chime in. I think this is what I will do, for display purposes I can hide the extra 25 hundo's on the inside of the rack on the 500's on the bottom of the carrier.

Thanks to everybody that chimed in here.
 
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