Cash Game 1000 chip Breakdown - 4 denoms (1 Viewer)

[jbriod]

My group plays cash games
No Limit Holdem & Omaha.
I have 1000 chips to decide on breakdown before I make a purchase.
I want a well rounded set with nice stacks.
We have players, 6-10 single table. Usual rebuy numbers avg about 2-4 per player.

.25/.50 - $60 buyin, unlimited
1/2 - $200 buyin, unlimited

These are the 4 denoms we use.
I was thinking:
.25 - 200
1 - 300
5 - 300
25 - 200

or

.25 - 200
1 - 200
5 - 400
25 - 200

Thank you for your help!

 

[bentax1978]

I far prefer option (2) to option (1). The extra rack of fives is more useful (IMO) for your game than the extra rack of ones.

You also don't "need" that many quarters for one table. If you don't want to go down to a single rack, you could consider a 160/240 split between the quarters and ones.

 

[Rhodeman77]

Only get 100 25c chips for a single table game.

200 $1’s is plenty.

500 or 600 $5’s. They are your workhorse chip

100 to 200 $25’s. I’d go with 200 if you are set on only 4 denominations.

Otherwise I’d add 40 $100 chips and reduce the $25’s by that much.

 

[links_slayer]

100 x 25c
200 x 1
500 x 5
160 x 25
40 x 100

 

[TheBigTater]

I like this for a well rounded set if only using 4 denoms.

.25 x 100
1 - 300 (200)
5 - 400 (500)
25 - 200

You can adjust between the $1's & $5's. Some will say less $1's & more $5's but it depends on how big or small your game plays. Or cut down to (25 x 100) & add $5's if you don't need that much bank

 

[Psypher1000]

Using only four denoms for those stakes, games, and players, it's...

100x 25c
200x $1
500x $5
200x $25

If you can push it to five, then use the 1000pc breakdown that @links_slayer posted above.

Alternatively, for $100's order some plaques or the new cash straps that @dennis63 is offering via Key West.

 

[jbriod]

Using only four denoms for those stakes, games, and players, it's...

100x 25c
200x $1
500x $5
200x $25

If you can push it to five, then use the 1000pc breakdown that @links_slayer posted above.

Alternatively, for $100's order some plaques or the new cash straps that @dennis63 is offering via Key West.

I like the idea of adding plaques since I don't have $100s. I have some plaques laying around. That should boost the overall bank.(y) :thumbsup:

 

[jbriod]

I far prefer option (2) to option (1). The extra rack of fives is more useful (IMO) for your game than the extra rack of ones.

You also don't "need" that many quarters for one table. If you don't want to go down to a single rack, you could consider a 160/240 split between the quarters and ones.

I also like the idea of splitting qtys more 1 and less .25. I'm getting more out of this 1000 chip set instead of getting complete racks. I like the way you think! Upstate NY...I'm orig from up the thruway, Queensbury, now living in NJ.

 

[bentax1978]

I also like the idea of splitting qtys more 1 and less .25. I'm getting more out of this 1000 chip set instead of getting complete racks. I like the way you think! Upstate NY...I'm orig from up the thruway, Queensbury, now living in NJ.

I don't usually advocate splitting racks, but I think you could justify it in this case if you wanted.

I'm about 45 minutes south of Queensbury. We pass through Queensbury at least a couple times a year on the way to the Great Escape (now Six Flags).

 

[upNdown]

Using only four denoms for those stakes, games, and players, it's...

100x 25c
200x $1
500x $5
200x $25

If you can push it to five, then use the 1000pc breakdown that @links_slayer posted above.

Alternatively, for $100's order some plaques or the new cash straps that @dennis63 is offering via Key West.

This one gets my vote, if we’re doing full racks.
I question if you need five thousand dollars worth of $25s - that gives you over 25 rebuys for $1/$2. I don’t think you NEED more quarters or ones, but I might rather have more of those than all the $25’s.

 

[bentax1978]

I question if you need five thousand dollars worth of $25s - that gives you over 25 rebuys for $1/$2. I don’t think you NEED more quarters or ones, but I might rather have more of those than all the $25’s.

Totally depends on the game. I hosted a weekly single table 1/1 game for years and we had over $5000 on the table about half the time. It just really depends how the game plays. But since OP mentioned that the average number of rebuys is 2-4 per player, I think a bank of $7500 (5s and 25s) is about as shallow as you'd want to go.

 

[jbriod]

I appreciate all the input. Looks like everyone wants me to increase 5's and I'll decrease .25's and I'll use some plaques as $100s.
Adding 5's will give me more "workhorse" chips while adding plaques to increase the overall bank.

I'm now looking at:

.25 - 160
1 - 220
5 - 520
25 - 100

+ $100 plaques if needed (25)

Does this look better?

 

[jbriod]

I don't usually advocate splitting racks, but I think you could justify it in this case if you wanted.

I'm about 45 minutes south of Queensbury. We pass through Queensbury at least a couple times a year on the way to the Great Escape (now Six Flags).

I lived right near Queensbury High school off exit 19. Great Escape wasn't far. Don't you live on the Albany outskirts? I saw a surprise Poker Party for you. Was it Troy or otherside Niskiyuna or something?

 

[bentax1978]

I lived right near Queensbury High school off exit 19. Great Escape wasn't far. Don't you live on the Albany outskirts? I saw a surprise Poker Party for you. Was it Troy or otherside Niskiyuna or something?

Niskayuna, though I work in Troy.


Yup, it was my 40th last month and there was a poker party surprise party planned for me, though I ended up accidentally ruining the surprise before the actually party took place. Might have worked out for the best so I had enough time to clean my dirty chip sets and finish relabeling my incomplete sets.

 

[Psypher1000]

I'm now looking at:

.25 - 160
1 - 220
5 - 520
25 - 100

+ $100 plaques if needed (25)

Does this look better?

For a set that's used for both .25/.50 and $1/$2, I can't see going over 120 fracs (the extra 20 isn't really necessary, either, but makes for ten nice stacks of 12 fracs) - you're just losing too much set flexibility if you use more than that. Similarly, no more than 200 $1 chips are necessary for .25/.50. That's been *plenty* for all the games I've been in, and there's a grip of .25/.50 sets out there that use 100 fracs and 200 singles. It's pretty tried and true.

The twenty extra $5's in the above breakdown is only $100 - not even a full minimum buyin. Seems useless to me to only bump that count by 20. Besides that, @bentax1978 brings up a good point about the minimum bank necessary. Between your 5's and 25's listed above, you only have about $5k in the bank and that won't cover your 3 buyins per person average on a 10 player game, so yes, your plaques would become necessary.

 

[jbriod]

For a set that's used for both .25/.50 and $1/$2, I can't see going over 120 fracs (the extra 20 isn't really necessary, either, but makes for ten nice stacks of 12 fracs) - you're just losing too much set flexibility if you use more than that. Similarly, no more than 200 $1 chips are necessary for .25/.50. That's been *plenty* for all the games I've been in, and there's a grip of .25/.50 sets out there that use 100 fracs and 200 singles. It's pretty tried and true.

The twenty extra $5's in the above breakdown is only $100 - not even a full minimum buyin. Seems useless to me to only bump that count by 20. Besides that, @bentax1978 brings up a good point about the minimum bank necessary. Between your 5's and 25's listed above, you only have about $5k in the bank and that won't cover your 3 buyins per person average on a 10 player game, so yes, your plaques would become necessary.

For the 25/50 game I could use 16 (.25) and 21 (1's) which would be easy to could out $25 worth and the rest 5's for the $60 buyin.
I think I'll keep the fracs @ 160 and 1 @ 220, even though I don't like breaking up racks.

For the larger 1/2 game your right. Adding 20 5's doesn't make sense. Probably better to add it to the 120 $25 chips. Good catch!

 

[Craig D]

The best way to build a set:


Double the most amount of money you have ever had in play and use this as your bank

Ensure it supports a fifty percent more players (If you have the room)



So you need a 20K bank

Maybe 25cx200 $1x200 $5x500 $100x80 $500x20 (The extra denomination adds so much flexibility)

Most importantly
Have Fun

 

[Rhodeman77]

I agree with everything @Psypher1000 said 100%

For a $1/2 game I would expect $5k to hit the table pretty easily most nights. So I would want the second rack of $25’s.

If you want to get some of the $100 plaques in play you can, you don’t need to use every lower chip before you use some of the bigger ones to color people up. Especially later in the night when several people have left. It’s fun to break out a few big chips.

 

[jbriod]

That Poker Party looked like an honor to be at and a ton of fun! Really nice guys to organize and plan for you. Your wifey must be a saint to have all those guys over for a few days of Mancave action!

I think I have a friend down here from Niskiyuna, I think.
Justin Meyer, he's younger than me. I'd say late 30 early 40's. Name familiar? He ended up going to St Rose College. I think he played baseball.

 

[Jambine]

.25 - 200
1 - 200
5 - 400
25 - 200

Thank you for your help!

I like that. Depending on how aggressive your players are, you might consider:

.25 - 100
1 - 200
5 - 500
25 - 200​

 

[Jambine]

For the 25/50 game I could use 16 (.25)

For .25/.50 you need to issue a full stack (20) to each player. Even then you will still be making change

 

[bentax1978]

That Poker Party looked like an honor to be at and a ton of fun! Really nice guys to organize and plan for you. Your wifey must be a saint to have all those guys over for a few days of Mancave action!

It was a ton of fun, and I'm certainly very grateful to everyone who came and helped make it happen. My wife had a lot of fun too and already asked when everyone is coming back. We converted the living room into an upstairs man cave, and to be honest, haven't switched it back yet.


just to keep things on point, here are the sets (and breakdowns) we used that weekend:

$0.25/0.50
100 x $0.25
140 x $1
300 x $5
200 x $25
60 x $100

$1/1
200 x $1
600 x $5
100 x $25
100 x $100

$1/1
200 x $1
800 x $5
240 x $25
160 x $100

$4/8 limit
1600 x $1
400 x $20

 

[jbriod]

It was a ton of fun, and I'm certainly very grateful to everyone who came and helped make it happen. My wife had a lot of fun too and already asked when everyone is coming back. We converted the living room into an upstairs man cave, and to be honest, haven't switched it back yet.


just to keep things on point, here are the sets (and breakdowns) we used that weekend:

$0.25/0.50
100 x $0.25
140 x $1
300 x $5
200 x $25
60 x $100

$1/1
200 x $1
600 x $5
100 x $25
100 x $100

$1/1
200 x $1
800 x $5
240 x $25
160 x $100

$4/8 limit
1600 x $1
400 x $20

Thanks for your breakdowns. Looks like a big mix. This will also help to see where my games and chips would fit in.

Thank you!
John

 

[bentax1978]

Thanks for your breakdowns. Looks like a big mix. This will also help to see where my games and chips would fit in.

FWIW, "only" having 300 $5 chips in the first set is solely a function of not being able to get more of that particular chip. I'd gladly have 600+ in that set as well. That said, we played with that set 7-handed and the 300 $5 chips worked out well enough. Plus, it allowed us to get the $25 chips in play sooner than if we had another few racks of fives

 

[Trihonda]

I appreciate all the input. Looks like everyone wants me to increase 5's and I'll decrease .25's and I'll use some plaques as $100s.

I am in the camp of full barrels of quarters and $1’s for all starting stacks, then fill/rebuys with $5’s and $25’s.

Beyond easy to sort/divvy/dispense full barrrels. A barrel of quarters is $5. Barrel of $1’s is $20. If you have partial barrels, it takes longer to cut out chips, and then your amounts aren’t nice and OCD approved. For a .25/.50 game with a $60 stack, you have 20 quarters, 20 x $1 (totals $25), and fill with 7 x $5’s.

Sure, you could get by with less quarters... but why? A full barrel each will greatly reduce the constant change making that happens. A full barrel is not excessive. I think this adds more to the playability of your set than a second rack of $25’s.

 

[MaxB]

We have players, 6-10 single table. Usual rebuy numbers avg about 2-4 per player.

.25/.50 - $60 buyin, unlimited
1/2 - $200 buyin, unlimited

Why no $100's? Seems crazy not to have some $100's in the mix. Then load up on $5's with the extra rack space from having 100's (y) :thumbsup:

25c = 100
$1 = 200
$5 = 560
$25 = 100
$100 = 40

 

[bentax1978]

Why no $100's? Seems crazy not to have some $100's in the mix. Then load up on $5's with the extra rack space from having 100's (y) :thumbsup:

Given the constraint of having only 1000 total chips to spread 0.25-0.50 and 1/2, I would use some hundreds as well to free up space for another rack of fives.

 

[k9dr]

My preferred 1000 chip breakdown for .25/.50 and 1/2 NL

.25 - 200
$1 - 200
$5 - 500
$25 - 80
$100 - 20

 

[bentax1978]

My preferred 1000 chip breakdown for .25/.50 and 1/2 NL

.25 - 200
$1 - 200
$5 - 500
$25 - 80
$100 - 20

$6750 bank? That's barely enough to cover my buy-ins if I'm having a bad night at 1/2

 

[k9dr]

$6750 bank? That's barely enough to cover my buy-ins if I'm having a bad night at 1/2

True, but I was assuming most players don't rebuy quite as frequently. Maybe do:
$25 (60) and $100 (40) instead.

I would actually like fewer fracs if mostly playing 1/2, but more fracs if mostly playing .25/50.