Cash Game 1 large set for cash games and T1000 tournament (1 Viewer)

[Maverick512]

Lots of great advice here... but how about a little pr0n!

Relabeled (ala Gear) blue Milano $20’s.

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Okay just re-read and seen it says Gear. i guess i need to talk to gear when im ready to do that

 

[BSteck]

THAT LOOKS RAD!!!! where do you get the custom labels? how much are they? whats the pink $ ones? man i think i wanna make my own custom labels lol what am i getting my self into this is so addicting and i havent even started yet!!

The labels are from @Gear and he did (and always does in my experiences) a great job. These are laminated labels so they’re .30 per chip (.15x2)

And that’s where things get a little interesting because you’re putting 30 cents worth of custom labels on a 30 cent chip. For 60 cents per chip you then start to get into the price range of custom ceramics or ceramic hybrids (or maybe even some used Paulson casino chips). It all depends on which chips you like and how bad you want custom labels.

We use the pink NCV $’s as Show em chips.

 

[Maverick512]

The labels are from @Gear and he did (and always does in my experiences) a great job. These are laminated labels so they’re .30 per chip (.15x2)

And that’s where things get a little interesting because you’re putting 30 cents worth of custom labels on a 30 cent chip. For 60 cents per chip you then start to get into the price range of custom ceramics or ceramic hybrids (or maybe even some used Paulson casino chips). It all depends on which chips you like and how bad you want custom labels.

We use the pink NCV $’s as Show em chips.

Do you put the label over the original label? or did you order blank ones? ya i see your point there sir hmmm

 

[BSteck]

I ordered standard Milanos with standard Milano labels (the price difference between labeled and blank Milanos was only a penny at the time). I used them for a while while I tweaked up the custom design. Then when the new custom labels arrived. I peeled off the old labels and applied the new ones. Easy peasy.

But back to your original post, it totally makes sense relabel a couple barrels of different color $20's to keep the cash side and the tourney side of your set separate.

 

[Maverick512]

You can get by with just 400 chips for a 10-player T10k tourney using 12/12/5/6 starting stacks:

125 x T25
125 x T100
50x T500
75x T1000
25 x T5k
---------------
400 chips, with plenty of extra T1000 and T5000 chips for color-ups, re-buys, and larger starting stacks if desired.


For the cash set, I'd future-proof it bit:

125 x 25c
200 x $1
200 x $5
75 x $20 (get custom labels)
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600 chips, total bank = $2,731.25 -- plenty of everything for 25c/25c, 25c/50c, 50c/$1, or even $1/$2 until the crowd gets crazy (then just have $100 bills play, or buy plaques).

1,000 total chips, and none will cross between cash and tourney, yet it's one cohesive set (if that's important to you). 150 custom labels will cost around $25 shipped, and well worth the investment.

Why $20 and not just $25 without custom labels?

 

[Maverick512]

Why $20 and not just $25 without custom labels?

I ordered standard Milanos with standard Milano labels (the price difference between labeled and blank Milanos was only a penny at the time). I used them for a while while I tweaked up the custom design. Then when the new custom labels arrived. I peeled off the old labels and applied the new ones. Easy peasy.

But back to your original post, it totally makes sense relabel a couple barrels of different color $20's to keep the cash side and the tourney side of your set separate.

ok ya i was just re reading it and i totally understand what BGinGA is saying now.

 

[BSteck]

Or you could use Majestics (with a standard $25) for the cash side and Milanos for the tourney side - or vice versa. Then you don't need to order custom $20 labels and there's no problem of chip migration between the sets.

But you'll find lots of support for a $20 chip in a cash set. It makes the buy-ins a little easier since buy-ins are often in multiples of $20 bills.

 

[Maverick512]

Or you could use Majestics (with a standard $25) for the cash side and Milanos for the tourney side - or vice versa. Then you don't need to order custom $20 labels and there's no problem of chip migration between the sets.

But you'll find lots of support for a $20 chip in a cash set. It makes the buy-ins a little easier since buy-ins are often in multiples of $20 bills.

Ya that's a good point. I was looking at dunes because they have a $20 and $25 so i could get those for the cash set and use the majestics or another china clay for the tourney set. lol i just don't really find the dunes visually pleasing lol. i really like the look of the Pharaohs 25c $1 $5 so im thinking of going with those for the cash set. anyways thanks for youre help sir @BSteck

 

[BSteck]

Get some samples and enjoy the journey down the rabbit hole!

 

[StevenM]

Yes. It’s an easy rabbit hole to fall into. I’m learning that fast!

 

[Jz44]

This IMHO is asking for trouble. UNLESS you decide you will run tourneys starting at 100/200 blinds, and will NEVER use the $25, which could be dedicated for the cash set, OR you do tourneys with 25/50 starting blinds, and NEVER use the $25s for the cash game. SO, the 25's are the overlap chip... in which case, it's the only chip that's getting duplicated? Well, then it's completely worth buying two sets, and buying the extra two racks of 25s.

For instance, you're planning to purchase 1000 chips now...

Buy a 600 chip Milano cash set:
100 x $.25
200 x $1
200 x $5
100 x $25

This is a little light on $5's, but accomplishes your goal. If buying more chips, get more $5's.

Buy a 500 chip Majestic Tourney set:
125 x T25
125 x T100
75 x T500
75 x T1000
50 x T5k

This runs a single table (10 person) 10k tourney with starting stacks of 12/12/5/6 and requires 120/120/50/60 chips min to start, and you purchase more 1ks for color ups, and 5ks for addons/rebuys or to make deeper stacks to start. If purchasing more chips, I'd simply go with full racks for the 500s and 1ks. 125/125/100/100/50 (500 chips).

So you're overlapping slightly, but set security is maintained, and you've only spent more for ONE extra rack of chips (at $.35/chip, it's like a $35 bump, and well worth your peace of mind). And most importantly, 1 year from now, people won't remember you as the newbie, who came onto this forum (of chip experts) looking for chip advice, and then completely ignored it. $35 well spent (y) :thumbsup:

Thanks to combining a couple sets I found through the classifieds, some new, and a few Gear labels I am going to end up with all Majestics. Instead of the original ballpark of 1,000 chips that I was planning on I ended up with 1,425 for around an extra $100. Plus, I don't think I'll have any overlap between the cash and tourney chips thanks to the $20 chip.

Here's what I ended up with:

Cash
$0.05 x 100
$0.25 x 100
$1 x 200
$5 x 225
$20.00 x 100

Tourney
$25 x 200
$100 x 200
$500 x 100
$1,000 x 125
$5,000 x 50
$25,000 x 25

I'll probably add another 75 at some point to get to 1,500, but I'll wait to see where I need those before adding them on. I think this will give me enough flexibility to do basically anything I may want though....at least for now.

 

[Maverick512]

Thanks to combining a couple sets I found through the classifieds, some new, and a few Gear labels I am going to end up with all Majestics. Instead of the original ballpark of 1,000 chips that I was planning on I ended up with 1,425 for around an extra $100. Plus, I don't think I'll have any overlap between the cash and tourney chips thanks to the $20 chip.

Here's what I ended up with:

Cash
$0.05 x 100
$0.25 x 100
$1 x 200
$5 x 225
$20.00 x 100

Tourney
$25 x 200
$100 x 200
$500 x 100
$1,000 x 125
$5,000 x 50
$25,000 x 25

I'll probably add another 75 at some point to get to 1,500, but I'll wait to see where I need those before adding them on. I think this will give me enough flexibility to do basically anything I may want though....at least for now.

What color chip did you use for the $20 and how much was it for the 200 labels?

 

[Jz44]

What color chip did you use for the $20 and how much was it for the 200 labels?

The $.05 and $20 I got through the classifieds and they're coming from @Forty4 (thanks again). The nickels will be on the purple ($500 I assume) and the $20's on the yellow ($1000).

I ordered new blank orange and blues that I'm getting labels for to do the 50 $5k and 25 $25k. For those 150 labels (2 per chip) it was $19 after shipping so it does add about $.25/chip.

 

[Forty4]

The $.05 and $20 I got through the classifieds and they're coming from @Forty4 (thanks again). The nickels will be on the purple ($500 I assume) and the $20's on the yellow ($1000).

I ordered new blank orange and blues that I'm getting labels for to do the 50 $5k and 25 $25k. For those 150 labels (2 per chip) it was $19 after shipping so it does add about $.25/chip.

I could have helped you out with blues as well. Sorry.

 

[Jz44]

I could have helped you out with blues as well. Sorry.

Yeah I know. I ordered the labels and those chips before I thought of checking back with you on the rest of the cash chips so that was my fault.

 

[Maverick512]

You can get by with just 400 chips for a 10-player T10k tourney using 12/12/5/6 starting stacks:

125 x T25
125 x T100
50x T500
75x T1000
25 x T5k
---------------
400 chips, with plenty of extra T1000 and T5000 chips for color-ups, re-buys, and larger starting stacks if desired.


For the cash set, I'd future-proof it bit:

125 x 25c
200 x $1
200 x $5
75 x $20 (get custom labels)
---------------
600 chips, total bank = $2,731.25 -- plenty of everything for 25c/25c, 25c/50c, 50c/$1, or even $1/$2 until the crowd gets crazy (then just have $100 bills play, or buy plaques).

1,000 total chips, and none will cross between cash and tourney, yet it's one cohesive set (if that's important to you). 150 custom labels will cost around $25 shipped, and well worth the investment.

Im very close to pulling the trigger

gonna grab up a tourney set first i think and do a cash set later on when i know ill have a steady group willing to join up

i would like to get a BGinGA "approved" blind schedule for the 400 chip set starting stacks 12/12/5/6 @BGinGA when you have time sir.

"we're not worthy! We suck" - Wayne's world

 

[BGinGA]

gonna grab up a tourney set first

i would like to get a BGinGA "approved" blind schedule for the 400 chip set starting stacks 12/12/5/6

Note that if not required to purchase in 25-chip increments, I'd recommend:
120 x T25
120 x T100
50 x T500
80 x T1000
30 x T5000
----------------
400 chips

You won't ever use those 5 extra T25/T100 chips, but a few extra high denomination chips can often be useful.

How long do you want the 10-player T10k event to last?

 

[Maverick512]

Note that if not required to purchase in 25-chip increments, I'd recommend:
120 x T25
120 x T100
50 x T500
80 x T1000
30 x T5000
----------------
400 chips

You won't ever use those 5 extra T25/T100 chips, but a few extra high denomination chips can often be useful.

How long do you want the 10-player T10k event to last?

Ive only come across them sold in 25 and 50 online. unless you're saying purchasing from someone within this community

10 player T10k event last about 3-4 hours i think would be good

 

[Maverick512]

Note that if not required to purchase in 25-chip increments, I'd recommend:
120 x T25
120 x T100
50 x T500
80 x T1000
30 x T5000
----------------
400 chips

You won't ever use those 5 extra T25/T100 chips, but a few extra high denomination chips can often be useful.

How long do you want the 10-player T10k event to last?

10 player T10k event last about 3-4 hours i think would be good. got a sec?

 

[BGinGA]

lvl sb bb
L1 25 50
L2 25 75
L3 50 100
L4 75 150
L5 100 200
L6 150 300
remove T25 chips
L7 200 400
L8 300 600
L9 400 800
L10 600 1200
L11 800 1600
L12 1200 2400
remove T100 chips
L13 1500 3000
L14 2000 4000 **
L15 3000 6000
L16 4000 8000

With 10 players (T10K stacks) using 15-minute blind levels, a typical tournament will end no later than L14, or about 3.5 hours plus breaks. Most blind increases are 33% or 50%, averaging 40%.