Asymmetrical Poker Seating -- Would it Tilt You? (2 Viewers)

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I'm thinking about an asymmetrical layout of 9 evenly-spaced cupholders for my next oval table build.
  • 84"x44" overall dimensions
  • 6" rail
  • 32" wide playing surface
  • jumbo cupholders at 22.15" on center (relative to CL of rail)
Would this tilt the living daylights out of you?

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Seems most wouldn't mind... It would tilt me to no end :p especially as drawn, at least center the lone cup holder on the end so that it's symmetric on one axis...

Edit to add that if the location is asymmetric on the same axis I spoke I could see it being a thing lol, I'd probably just go for 8 cup holders and tell 9th guy tough luck, what are the odds all 9 need one at same time anyways :p
 
It's the only solution if you want a table for nine (or dealer plus eight) players, and still have cupholders on the rail. Probably the ideal concept / size of table.
I 'd make it 48x80 in, though, if the available room allows, 'cause, IMO, round-ish is more functional.
Sure, align the lower center cupholder to the central axis.
Another question: I think that the circumference per player (9 players), for 44x84in is rather 24.24 in, not just 22.15 (and 23.86 in for a 48x80 in). Am I wrong?
 
justsomedude said:
Would this tilt the living daylights out of you?
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Depends on whether I get to sit between the cup holders, or if I am forced to sit with my drink directly in front of me (and in my way 100% of the time) -- that tilts me no end.

Use slide-under cup holders and let people sit where they want.
 
Coyote said:
I 'd make it 48x80 in, though, if the available room allows, 'cause, IMO, round-ish is more functional.
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Room dictates the dimensions, hence the narrower table.

Coyote said:
Another question: I think that the circumference per player (9 players), for 44x84in is rather 24.24 in, not just 22.15 (and 23.86 in for a 48x80 in). Am I wrong?
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You’re not wrong, I just used a different measurement metric. See note: Relative to CL of rail.
 
Well, you have nice 9 sits table or 7 plus dealer.. I do not see that often... Let us know how your friends react... Maybe you are up to something...
 
BGinGA said:
Use slide-under cup holders and let people sit where they want.
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detroitdad said:
This

I prefer slide under cup holders or drink tables.
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I definitely agree that slide-unders provide the most flexibility. But with another table to build, it's a bit of a personal challenge, and just to see how the heck 9 cupholders will actually work out. :ROFL: :ROFLMAO:
 
As someone who will be playing on it, it doesn't bother me, though in your particular drawing I think the bottom middle cupholder needs to be centered.

When I have 9 people around my table, that's generally how I position it, with one at the bottom being perfectly centered and then the other 8 evenly spaced around. I also vote no cup holders in the rail, slide under FTW.
 
markleteenie said:
Well it just allows for more optimal spacing if you have less than 9 players. Science.
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Agreed... but my main issue is that when that 9th player does show up, everyone all of sudden acts as if they've just had an aneurysm and have no idea how to sit/slide/make-room for other people.

Cupholders at least provide a starting point / guideline of "SPACE YOURSELVES ACCORDINGLY, DIPSHITS." Otherwise, we seem to get stuck in the "my brain doesn't work anymore" mode for an extended period of time.

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Oh... I need to make room for other players??
 
justsomedude said:
Agreed... but my main issue is that when that 9th player does show up, everyone all of sudden acts as if they've just had an aneurysm and have no idea how to sit/slide/make-room for other people.

Cupholders at least provide a starting point / guideline of "SPACE YOURSELVES ACCORDINGLY, DIPSHITS." Otherwise, we seem to get stuck in the "my brain doesn't work anymore" mode for an extended period of time.

Oh... I need to make room for other players??
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I guess I think of it in just the opposite way. Having a fixed number of cupholders only works better when you have exactly that many players. So, when you have 8 players, how do you figure out who gets what cupholder? I've always thought that some flexible type of slide outs from under the table would be ideal. Just haven't figured out exactly how!:cool
 
Jake14mw said:
I guess I think of it in just the opposite way. Having a fixed number of cupholders only works better when you have exactly that many players. So, when you have 8 players, how do you figure out who gets what cupholder? I've always thought that some flexible type of slide outs from under the table would be ideal. Just haven't figured out exactly how!:cool
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I'm probably going to skip the cupholders... I guess I just needed this discussion thread to convince me.
 
One Eyed Dollar said:
I like to calculate the space per person based on the length of the outer edge rather than the centerline. I refer to it as the Perimeter Per Person, or PPP for short.

You down with PPP? Ya you know me.
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But if you do that, and then bring in a perpendicular line to make your hole-cut, your cupholder spacing will not be equal at the centerline of the rail.

Not necessarily a bad thing, but spatially tilting to me... :banghead:

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* I realize that evenly spacing the cupholders on the centerline makes the PPP unequal... but I guess I'd just rather see the cupholders evenly spaced within the rail itself. :D
 
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justsomedude said:
Agreed... but my main issue is that when that 9th player does show up, everyone all of sudden acts as if they've just had an aneurysm and have no idea how to sit/slide/make-room for other people.

Cupholders at least provide a starting point / guideline of "SPACE YOURSELVES ACCORDINGLY, DIPSHITS." Otherwise, we seem to get stuck in the "my brain doesn't work anymore" mode for an extended period of time.

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Oh... I need to make room for other players??
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I'm team slide under cupholders as well, but damn am I seen by this post. Saturday night after merging tables you'd have thought it was rocket appliances to figure out how to get everyone seated around the table.

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justsomedude said:
my main issue is that when that 9th player does show up, everyone all of sudden acts as if they've just had an aneurysm and have no idea how to sit/slide/make-room for other people.

Cupholders at least provide a starting point / guideline of "SPACE YOURSELVES ACCORDINGLY, DIPSHITS." Otherwise, we seem to get stuck in the "my brain doesn't work anymore" mode for an extended period of time.
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Small dots (on the rail or on the felt) can serve the same purpose of identifying equally-spaced seating without the constraints of fixed cup holder positions. You can have them color-coded (or numbered) to correlate to specific numbers of seated players.

Eight players? Everbody sits at an 8 dot. Nine players? Put your chair in front of a 9 dot. Same goes for 5, 6, 7, or even 10 players when you're occasionally squeezing in an extra guy. Or if known ahead of time, place the slide-unders at the appropriate number-dots.

You can even incorporate them into the felt design (a modified betting line comes to mind as an easy and otherwise almost transparent option). Or on a raised rail, you could have lights behind a diffuser than indicate seating positions based on the simple input of how many current players need to be seated.

This seems like a much cooler project, and a whole lot more flexible.
 
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BGinGA said:
Depends on whether I get to sit between the cup holders, or if I am forced to sit with my drink directly in front of me (and in my way 100% of the time) -- that tilts me no end.

Use slide-under cup holders and let people sit where they want.
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My first reaction was that the cup holder position thing seemed a little petulant, until I thought about it for two seconds and tilted myself. BGinGa for the win.

I come down on the other side of it though. I prefer the cup holder in front of me. Saturday I had it on my right, and being right handed it was in the way every time I reached for chips.

I’d figure out where you land on that great debate, then center around a “dealer position” at the table, in case you ever have an all time dealer. In your diagram example, this would tell you if the dealer is on the top side or bottom side of the table.
 
justsomedude said:
Agreed... but my main issue is that when that 9th player does show up, everyone all of sudden acts as if they've just had an aneurysm and have no idea how to sit/slide/make-room for other people.
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I didn't do cupholders in my table for this reason (and for the spills) - I'm a side table person.

That said, I use chairs to solve that problem. If I know I have two more players coming late for instance, I just set up the chairs appropriately in advance. If I know I'm going to be "short" for a game I just pull those chairs out and set up the other chairs appropriately. Works really well.
 
Οr you can have 8 symmetrically-spaced (spaciously!) cupholders, and have an odd number of players sit asymmetrically:D
If 8 players in a self-dealt game, the cupholder should be in front of each one, close to the chest, IMO.
If the 9th person is a dedicated dealer, then he should keep one of the two central cupholders (of either side of the table) in front of him, and the rest can have the cupholders anywhere in relation to their bodies (one will be left without cupholder on the table).
For nine dealing players, I guess you should get a 10-person table and have one seat empty.:)
 

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