Identify these chips? (1 Viewer)

[Nathanman123]

Hey everyone, I'm a newcomer and picked up a set of 500 on Craigslist, they were listed at 11.5g and seems true. Here's a picture of them, they are the same front and back. I can't seem to find any like them online and was wondering where I could look if I wanted to add on. Thanks!

 

[links_slayer]

Welcome!

They look like these: https://www.discountpokershop.com/2...MIucTl36bt3AIVAqvsCh1akw6CEAQYASABEgKmQ_D_BwE

Run of the mill, slugged (metal insert), ABS plastic chips. These are generally regarded as low-end, undesirable chips around here.

 

[Nathanman123]

Welcome!

They look like these:

Thanks for the info, $30 for 500 wasn't expecting Monte Carlo Casino quality, I'm a college kid just getting started, and hopefully will get a home game going on campus and wanted to know where to get more should it grow. Basically, limited bankroll for chips. But unfortunately those are listed at $1.50 a piece, obviously insane. Is there a place to find them for cheaper?

 

[Beakertwang]

Yeah, they’re cheapies, but despite PCF conventional wisdom, you can spend less than 75¢/chip and have a good time playing poker.

But you definitely need a $3000 custom table!

But seriously, what kind of game do you play? Cash or tourney? What stakes? How many players? Does the breakdown of those chips work for your game?

In my opinion, developing a good game, with clear rules, well thought out structure, and players who buy in to good poker etiquette are more important than your chips. I’ve upgraded my chips because I like them, but most of my players couldn’t care less about them.

 

[Beakertwang]

Oh, yeah...

Welcome to PCF!

 

[BGinGA]

Those are pretty slippery, and not very conducive to a good poker experience, regardless how good your game is otherwise.

At 6c/chip, that's pretty much the bottom of the barrel quality- and enjoyment-wise.

 

[Nathanman123]

Thanks all for the replies. BG do you have any suggestions on a place where I can find 1,000 chips of decent quality and price range of about $100-$150? Also since I live in ATL maybe I could simply find some home games?

 

[longflop]

Thanks all for the replies. BG do you have any suggestions on a place where I can find 1,000 chips of decent quality and price range of about $100-$150? Also since I live in ATL maybe I could simply find some home games?

Welcome man, prepare to get addicted.

If you search for budget chips, there are a bunch of threads on here for that. Check out the search bar. I've got a set of Poker Knights that I use for my neighborhood tourneys right now. They can be found at that $0.15 per chip price. In my opinion, that is a great place to start, especially for a home game with your college buddies. They won't notice the difference, and I bet those would be the nicest chips they've played with.

Beakertwang had all great points, pay attention to those. Also, start with low stakes and raise them slowly once you know where people are comfortable having bad nights and coming back. Don't get in a position right away where people take huge losses, that's a surefire way to kill a monthly or weekly game. Grow the game slowly and with friends you trust and like being around. You put an invite online, you are going to end up with people you don't want there, and that's when bad situations happen.

 

[Darson]

https://www.discountpokershop.com/25pc-13g-law-clay-poker-chips-colors-p-722.html

1000 chips for $140 and you get to select the denoms. I have over 1000 of these and my pals like them more than the clays and ceramics!

 

[Lash]

Thanks for the info, $30 for 500 wasn't expecting Monte Carlo Casino quality, I'm a college kid just getting started, and hopefully will get a home game going on campus and wanted to know where to get more should it grow. Basically, limited bankroll for chips. But unfortunately those are listed at $1.50 a piece, obviously insane. Is there a place to find them for cheaper?

I believe it means $1.50 per 25 chips

 

[Nathanman123]

Ah I missed the 25ct. title. And those linked chips look very cool, thank you Darson! Really appreciate all the advice. So excited to be a part of this community

https://www.discountpokershop.com/25pc-13g-law-clay-poker-chips-colors-p-722.html

1000 chips for $140 and you get to select the denoms. I have over 1000 of these and my pals like them more than the clays and ceramics!

I will likely be playing a lot of 10NL games with 5c/10c blinds, and the site is out of the $5 chip that I would use for 5c. Is it typical or not for them to come back in stock? If not I guess I'll find a similar set.

 

[Beakertwang]

Those are pretty slippery, and not very conducive to a good poker experience, regardless how good your game is otherwise.

At 6c/chip, that's pretty much the bottom of the barrel quality- and enjoyment-wise.

I’m not sure I agree with the premise that slippery chips would have anything to do with a good poker experience, other than Paulsons are nicer than Poker Knights, etc. Can you elaborate?

 

[Poker Zombie]

I’m not sure I agree with the premise that slippery chips would have anything to do with a good poker experience, other than Paulsons are nicer than Poker Knights, etc. Can you elaborate?

Slippery chips...

• bump the table, all stacks tumble
• BARREL EXPLOSION!!!
• tall stack topples, lands on floor
• bump stack with arm while dealing, need to restack chips
• stacks higher than the rail (usually 10 chips high) are high risk for losing chips on the floor.
• cannot build artful chip towers

None of those are issues with higher quality chips.

 

[Beakertwang]

Slippery chips...

• bump the table, all stacks tumble
• BARREL EXPLOSION!!!
• tall stack topples, lands on floor
• bump stack with arm while dealing, need to restack chips
• stacks higher than the rail (usually 10 chips high) are high risk for losing chips on the floor.
• cannot build artful chip towers

None of those are issues with higher quality chips.

Haha, sure! But for many newer chippers, like myself and @Nathanman123, a set of Poker Knights or Outlaws seems like a big step up in the poker experience. Denominations, multi-color edgespots, not dice, etc. I’ve never touched a Paulson, or any high end chip for that matter, but I’m sure I’ll like them a lot when I do. Poker, to me, is about the fellowship and the gamesmanship, and the chips are just a tool of the games. They don’t make anyone a better player, or a more likable person. They just make nicer stacks.

 

[BGinGA]

Thanks all for the replies. BG do you have any suggestions on a place where I can find 1,000 chips of decent quality and price range of about $100-$150?

There are some decent options around the 15c/chip mark -- not premium chips, but not premium prices, either.

First step is determining exactly how many chips you need, then figuring out the best long-term way to spend your chip budget.

What game(s) do you host/run? Cash, tournaments, both? How many players (typical, maximum, future)? If cash, what stakes? If tournaments, what starting stack size and total time allotment?

Those all determine the optimal set breakdown for your specific needs. You may need more than 1000 chips, or you may need far less. With additional info, we can help assess your specific requirements.

I’m not sure I agree with the premise that slippery chips would have anything to do with a good poker experience... Can you elaborate?

Certainly. There are basically two categories of poker chips -- those that enhance the experience, and those that detract from it.

A chip set doesn't have to cost thousands of dollars to have a positive influence on the overall experience. And some expensive chips are downright horrible to play with. Money literally means nothing -- it's all about good design.

But poorly-designed chips -- identified by several charteristics, see below -- can be a constant reminder and irritant that can infringe on an otherwise good experience.

So what chips are poor choices, that can negatively affect the poker experience?

Slippery chips are the number #1 experience killer, but not the only one. Zombie hit on several of the reasons why slippery chips cause frustration, but it's mostly because people will spend a large amount of time dealing with needless 'chip issues', almost all of which can be easily avoided by simply avoiding slippery chips in the first place.

Chips can also exibit poor design when it comes to color choices, denomination style and size, and readability. All of these negatively affect game play, and detract from the experience. When players cannot readily determine the value of chips or readily distinguish chips from one another, it causes errors, wastes time, and generally degrades the experience.

Other poorly-designed equipment can also detract from a positive poker experience/environment -- a table surface that is either too slick, too hard, or with near-zero slide (making dealing or otherwise manipulating cards difficult), cards that are too 'sticky', too slick, or easily marked, or seating positions that are physically uncomfortable (like playing on a pool table). Just like subpar chips, all of those can make a poker session experience seem pretty poor.

But creating a positive poker environment doesn't need to be super-expensive. It just takes making the right choices within the given budget constraints.

 

[Beakertwang]

There are some decent options around the 15c/chip mark -- not premium chips, but not premium prices, either.

First step is determining exactly how many chips you need, then figuring out the best long-term way to spend your chip budget.

What game(s) do you host/run? Cash, tournaments, both? How many players (typical, maximum, future)? If cash, what stakes? If tournaments, what starting stack size and total time allotment?

Those all determine the optimal set breakdown for your specific needs. You may need more than 1000 chips, or you may need far less. With additional info, we can help assess your specific requirements.



Certainly. There are basically two categories of poker chips -- those that enhance the experience, and those that detract from it.

A chip set doesn't have to cost thousands of dollars to have a positive influence on the overall experience. And some expensive chips are downright horrible to play with. Money literally means nothing -- it's all about good design.

But poorly-designed chips -- identified by several charteristics, see below -- can be a constant reminder and irritant that can infringe on an otherwise good experience.

So what chips are poor choices, that can negatively affect the poker experience?

Slippery chips are the number #1 experience killer, but not the only one. Zombie hit on several of the reasons why slippery chips cause frustration, but it's mostly because people will spend a large amount of time dealing with needless 'chip issues', almost all of which can be easily avoided by simply avoiding slippery chips in the first place.

Chips can also exibit poor design when it comes to color choices, denomination style and size, and readability. All of these negatively affect game play, and detract from the experience. When players cannot readily determine the value of chips or readily distinguish chips from one another, it causes errors, wastes time, and generally degrades the experience.

Other poorly-designed equipment can also detract from a positive poker experience/environment -- a table surface that is either too slick, too hard, or with near-zero slide (making dealing or otherwise manipulating cards difficult), cards that are too 'sticky', too slick, or easily marked, or seating positions that are physically uncomfortable (like playing on a pool table). Just like subpar chips, all of those can make a poker session experience seem pretty poor.

But creating a positive poker environment doesn't need to be super-expensive. It just takes making the right choices within the given budget constraints.

Well said.

Out of curiosity, what would be your top choices for the <25¢/chip category?

 

[Nathanman123]

There are some decent options around the 15c/chip mark -- not premium chips, but not premium prices, either.

First step is determining exactly how many chips you need, then figuring out the best long-term way to spend your chip budget.

Thanks very much for the veteran advice. I'll probably be doing NL10 or maybe NL20 cash games with 6-8 people. With my current crappy chips I only have 150 of the bottom denoms that I use as 5c and 25c, and thus with 6 people we use them all up. So if someone were to re-buy, I'd need more than 500 right.
P.S. BG, would you mind responding to my PM? Maybe mine aren't going thru since I'm a new member here, idk

 

[BGinGA]

what would be your top choices for the <25¢/chip category?

Prior to Claysmith taking over the lines, I was a big fan of the sword & spade mold chips given their price point -- Poker Knights, Showdown Club, and Monaco Club (all around 16c each). By all accounts I've read, product quality and consistency has suffered since the buy-out.

There is not much I would recommend in the 20c-50c range.

Best advice I can offer is 'get samples' -- because what appeals to me may not appeal to you.

I also maintain that it is cheaper long-term to purchase high-end chips vs low-budget chips. High-end chips tend to hold their value, which means you will likely be able to sell them later for close to what you paid -- essentially you are just renting them and getting to play with very nice chips, for free, or close to it.

However, nearly all budget chips will drop in value, often dramatically. That is lost money that will never be recovered. Generally smarter to save a bit longer before buying/upgrading, and getting a better set that won't immediately depreciate before it even arrives in the mail.

 

[WhiteMamba1646]

https://www.discountpokershop.com/25pc-13g-law-clay-poker-chips-colors-p-722.html

i agree with @Darson . These Outlaw chips have been a big hit with the guys i play with. I like my other sets better but these ones run cheap and people are drawn to them.

 

[Nathanman123]

https://www.discountpokershop.com/25pc-13g-law-clay-poker-chips-colors-p-722.html

i agree with @Darson . These Outlaw chips have been a big hit with the guys i play with. I like my other sets better but these ones run cheap and people are drawn to them.

Wow thanks for the pictures, they look fantastic. Just reiterating my post from earlier, but I see that their $5 chips are sold out on that site? Will they come back in stock or no? If not, is there a comparable poker chip (Price/quality)?

 

[Poker Zombie]

+1 for "Get samples."

This site is filled with aficionados, but we have all played with people that could not tell the difference between a China clay and a Paulson clay. Who knows, you might be one of "those guys". If that's the case, why spend the money?

Paulsons are the angus beef hamburger. China clays are home-quality burgers, ABS are McDonalds burgers. McDonalds outsells them all because most people dont care.

 

[WhiteMamba1646]

@Darson , do the $1 chips in your set feel chalky compared to the rest of the demons? all of mine are pretty slick except for the $1 chips. its weird lol

 

[WhiteMamba1646]

Wow thanks for the pictures, they look fantastic. Just reiterating my post from earlier, but I see that their $5 chips are sold out on that site? Will they come back in stock or no? If not, is there a comparable poker chip (Price/quality)?

yea they are sold out at the moment. Not sure if they will be back or not but since its a simple ABS material chip they should be back in stock at some point.

 

[WhiteMamba1646]

yea they are sold out at the moment. Not sure if they will be back or not but since its a simple ABS material chip they should be back in stock at some point.

honestly for 14C a chip these are the best made IMO. they feel and look the best to me. others that people like would be maybe something by clay smith (poker nights, showdown, etc) but i like the edge spot design of these. The only downside i would say is that the denomination can be difficult to read if your eyes are bad.

 

[Beakertwang]

Wow thanks for the pictures, they look fantastic. Just reiterating my post from earlier, but I see that their $5 chips are sold out on that site? Will they come back in stock or no? If not, is there a comparable poker chip (Price/quality)?

The Lucky Horseshoe or the Monaco Casino chips from the same site are probably very similar.
The Mint set seems to be ok, too. Available lots of places.

 

[Darson]

@Darson , do the $1 chips in your set feel chalky compared to the rest of the demons? all of mine are pretty slick except for the $1 chips. its weird lol

All mine are chalky except the 25c which are a bit slicker. It’s odd actually, I was surprised how non plastic they feel even though they’re plastic.

 

[WhiteMamba1646]

All mine are chalky except the 25c which are a bit slicker. It’s odd actually, I was surprised how non plastic they feel even though they’re plastic.

Thats interesting. My 50 cent chips are really slick and then i got my chalky $1 chips then back to slick on the $5/$25 chips

 

[Darson]

Wow thanks for the pictures, they look fantastic. Just reiterating my post from earlier, but I see that their $5 chips are sold out on that site? Will they come back in stock or no? If not, is there a comparable poker chip (Price/quality)?

You can get a 500 set on Amazon for $89 cased. The only slightly annoying thing is that they give you 50x $50s which are useless. But I relabeled them as 5c (and bought 25c)

 

[WhiteMamba1646]

Oh nice, yea i just did the bulk buy n added as the game grew. They are consistant though lol, all the 1s are chally. Which i like, wish all were like that

 

[Beakertwang]

Prior to Claysmith taking over the lines, I was a big fan of the sword & spade mold chips given their price point -- Poker Knights, Showdown Club, and Monaco Club (all around 16c each). By all accounts I've read, product quality and consistency has suffered since the buy-out.

There is not much I would recommend in the 20c-50c range.

Best advice I can offer is 'get samples' -- because what appeals to me may not appeal to you.

I also maintain that it is cheaper long-term to purchase high-end chips vs low-budget chips. High-end chips tend to hold their value, which means you will likely be able to sell them later for close to what you paid -- essentially you are just renting them and getting to play with very nice chips, for free, or close to it.

However, nearly all budget chips will drop in value, often dramatically. That is lost money that will never be recovered. Generally smarter to save a bit longer before buying/upgrading, and getting a better set that won't immediately depreciate before it even arrives in the mail.

To me, this is sort of the downside of PCF. It's similar to the guitar gear forums I'm on, although it manifests itself differently. Often, questions like "what's a good guitar for my budget of $400?" or "What's a good delay pedal for less than $100?", are met with "You won't be happy with Brand X, just spend the extra for Brand Y, you'll be happier in the long run!" Or they have $1200 for an entire setup, but they're told they should spend that much on a nice amp. But to me, the point is for the person to be playing, not accruing the best gear.

While I get that buying a set of casino-used Paulsons (or other high-end chips) may be a better value, and possibly even an investment, a lot of us simply can't afford to drop $600, $1000, or more on a set of chips. Low-end chips sometimes are met with a sort derision here, like it's inconceivable that one could have a good poker game with cheap chips and a table topper. If you're on a budget, you're on a budget, and there are chips that players on a budget will like for less than 25¢/chip. Get some chips that look good to you and start playing poker. There'll be time for cork sniffing later.