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Super Bowl - Where do you stand (3 Viewers)
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slisk250
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Being a Steeler fan, I will say that the perennial loser Eagle fans needed this esteem boost. Enjoy your day in the sun.
As a Packer fan, it was nice to see Doug Pederson get this win.
justsomedude
Royal Flush
I watched all his post game interviews... He sure is a class act.
It really felt good to beat New England and I'm not even a big Eagles fan. Flyers and Sixers mostly, but I support all my home teams. E-A-G-L-E-S ... GO EAGLES!!!!!! (y) :thumbsup:
MaxB
Full House
What the hell just happened tonight? Beat by a team with a backup qb.
I wish the eagles would have won the first matchup with Donovan McNabb instead of this one with Foles
I wish the eagles would have won the first matchup with Donovan McNabb instead of this one with Foles
Kyle
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It was an exciting game right down to the last seconds. If they completed that last pass and then made the 2 pt conversion, that would have been crazy!
FDLmold
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That was definitely a power bomb.
OP
OP
Defensively... the worst game ever.
I still think both TD calls could have gone the other way, the first one more so than the Ertz dive
I still think both TD calls could have gone the other way, the first one more so than the Ertz dive
Chippy McChiperson
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I don't think there was enough to overrule either touchdown. If they had been called the other way on the field, maybe.
Jon Udell
Pair
Finally got one! Go Birds!
justsomedude
Royal Flush
I try to be pretty objective with the NFL's awful "surviving the ground" catch rule, and "complete the process of the catch" rule. It's an utter f*ck show that has become the focal point of this season, taking away from what would have otherwise been great games.
The Ertz catch I have to disagree... three steps while vertical = runner. He then dove and crossed the plane. Touchdown.
The first one, I definitely would agree could have gone either way based on the NFL rules as they are today (which pretty much everyone knows won't be that way next season). The problem for the Patriots was their position in all of this mess. I can't find the link right now, but they won 4 or 5 games as a result of this rule. Some one has a nice blog post with slo-mo video links to each play. 3 opposing team TDs were taken away late in games this season to give the Pats a win due to players not "completing the process of the catch", whereas 2 Pats "bobbled" catches in/out of the endzone were awarded as TDs late in games, to give them the win.
5 games being decided by refs is no joke... and more than a quarter of each team's season. It's also a bad look for the NFL as a whole. Games should be determined clearly on the field of play - not under the hood by the gents in stripes.
While I don't think the NFL or refs work to "rig" games, I do think directives come from league offices. I'm fairly certain there was a meeting on this issue before the Super Bowl that basically said, "no - we're not giving the Pats a walk on this rule anymore." Call it "refs justice" or whatever you want, but I do think the Pats were a little bit victims of circumstance. Some would argue that that stupid rule got them to the Super Bowl in the first place. But the NFL - well aware of the controversy the rule created, and the amount of fans turning away from their game as a result of retarded interpretations - decided that the Pats would not win their biggest game as a result of it. They also knew that a 400 word explanation on national television on the game's biggest stage would be a disaster and a complete embarrassment.
It was just a matter of them (the Patriots) being in the wrong place at the wrong time.
Live by the sword - die by the sword.
Or in this case... Win by the rule - lose by the rule.
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kirchhausen
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The Ertz TD was definitely good. Like @justdomedude said, Ertz caught the ball, then turned upfield and took at least two steps and then dove into the endzone. If they had overturned this call I would have probably just stopped watching the game at that point. As an aside, does anyone else find Chris Collinsworth utterly annoying? I'm not sure if he was trying to stir up a sense of drama with his questioning of this ruling, or if he is a secret Patriots fan, but his commentary was just absurd. What a douche.
The 1st TD probably should have been turned over by the letter of the law, which is an absolutely horrible rule and has been as mentioned inconsistently applied. I guess the bobble was so slight they felt they didn't have enough evidence to overturn the ruling on the field.
The 1st TD probably should have been turned over by the letter of the law, which is an absolutely horrible rule and has been as mentioned inconsistently applied. I guess the bobble was so slight they felt they didn't have enough evidence to overturn the ruling on the field.
justsomedude
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Collinsworth is a bitch.
Search Twitter for "Chris Collinsworth" ... it's brutal.
My favorite so far: "Chris Collinsworth is still in the booth, arguing that the Patriots still have enough time to win.'
He's always terrible, but last night he was especially difficult to take. He's worthless.
OP
OP
I don’t believe for one second the refs were told to do anything different for this game; to side one way more than the other.
For the 1st TD, if they called it incomplete, I think that would stand. I do believe that they will usually side on calling it a TD more often, knowing that all scoring plays are reviewed. If it was called incomplete, there would have been a challenge.
Bottom line, Brady played his ass off. So did Foles. Neither Defense showed up. If the pats stop the 4th down conversion in the 4th quarter (for which there was a pick play that could have drawn an O. Pass Interference), they game would have probably ended there. The Pats D couldn’t stop the short passes over the middle, and it killed them. Not that the Eagles has an answer for Brady either.
505 passing yards and a L. Oh well
I’m a fan. They don’t pay me or know who I am, so I didn’t lose any sleep over it
The best part of this...
Baseball season is about to start. !!!!!!
Kyle
Full House
I love the whining. Lets face it, no team can stop the Foles Freight Train.Fuck Collinsworthless!
justsomedude
Royal Flush
Agree across the board. The defenses were just awful. Awful, awful, awful.
justsomedude
Royal Flush
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Ertz was a no brainier, IMO. Exactly what @justsomedude said.
To me, Corey Clement's catch was not a close call either. I thought he had possession, got 2 feet in, stepped half out in the third step, then bobbled the ball as he fell. I'm sure Pats fans will take exception, and that's fine. I didn't look at it that critically, but that's how I saw it on the replays.
So two feet down with possession = a catch, so play is over (in the end zone) and third step half out and subsequent bobble doesn't matter.
Edit: I do agree that the Clement TD was easier because it was ruled a TD on the field.
Edit 2: And for all the Chris Collinsworth complaints, Al Michaels was worse. He stepped in dog shit three times that I recall: called a 1st and goal when it was 2nd and 1, said the Pats had their first lead *before* the PAT (when it was still tied) and also called the Brady fumble at the end "the first sack of the game."
WTF, Al? I always liked you, but it might be time to hang it up.
To me, Corey Clement's catch was not a close call either. I thought he had possession, got 2 feet in, stepped half out in the third step, then bobbled the ball as he fell. I'm sure Pats fans will take exception, and that's fine. I didn't look at it that critically, but that's how I saw it on the replays.
So two feet down with possession = a catch, so play is over (in the end zone) and third step half out and subsequent bobble doesn't matter.
Edit: I do agree that the Clement TD was easier because it was ruled a TD on the field.
Edit 2: And for all the Chris Collinsworth complaints, Al Michaels was worse. He stepped in dog shit three times that I recall: called a 1st and goal when it was 2nd and 1, said the Pats had their first lead *before* the PAT (when it was still tied) and also called the Brady fumble at the end "the first sack of the game."
WTF, Al? I always liked you, but it might be time to hang it up.
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justsomedude
Royal Flush
Actually, he wasn't even half out on the third step. There was an angle from behind and low to the ground (which they only showed ONCE!), that showed that foot grazing the turf, with the rubber material flying up as his shoe skidded across it. This demonstrated there was contact with the ground on the third step BEFORE his toe hit the white.
I didn't want to get into it, but since you mentioned it, I think it needs to be put out there. Hopefully some one has a slo-mo gif of that angle.
OP
OP
That was the 1st sack of the game. If the QB is hit behind the line of scrimmage and he fumbles the ball, it is considered a sack, even if he doesn't go down. Look at the box score.
MaxB
Full House
I will take him announcing over Joe Buck anytime (y) :thumbsup:
Chippy McChiperson
Straight Flush
They are both better than Dan Fouts. Dude makes we want to jam an ice pick in my eardrums.
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