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Scammed by USPS? (4 Viewers)
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The packages did take 10+ days to be delivered and were delayed so I had a follow up question how they were packed…
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The box was coming apart / broken from the weight and I saw paper and was like WTF?!? Thought it was flat warneke boxes.
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Facts. And ain’t nobody buying the idea that @doublebooyah85 pulled a scam here; without any additional information there only ever were 3 possible explanations to start with:
1. Whoops, I sent you someone else’s packages by accident, my bad;
2. My package was tampered with!!; and
3. I scammed you, brah.
With the information now available it clearly wasn’t scenario 1 or 2, come on, so by process of elimination, we’re left with . . .
Plus, when someone who went around via PM for months trying to solicit top dollar for Oceanside $20s and $100s (as was 100% their prerogative to do) sells a set at TCR prices, and instead of chips showing up in the mail stacks of paper show up . . . I mean, I was born at night, but it certainly wasn’t last night . . .
Facts. And ain’t nobody buying the idea that @doublebooyah85 pulled a scam here; without any additional information there only ever were 3 possible explanations to start with:
1. Whoops, I sent you someone else’s packages by accident, my bad;
2. My package was tampered with!!; and
3. I scammed you, brah.
With the information now available it clearly wasn’t scenario 1 or 2, come on, so by process of elimination, we’re left with . . .
Plus, when someone who went around via PM for months trying to solicit top dollar for Oceanside $20s and $100s (as was 100% their prerogative to do) sells a set at TCR prices, and instead of chips showing up in the mail stacks of paper show up . . . I mean, I was born at night, but it certainly wasn’t last night . . .
Too soon? How long would my ban be?
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Well he reached out to me via text and sold everything close to TCR prices so this isn’t the same lmao
Need to be a private sale below market lol
Absolutely doublebooyah had nothing to do with this, I've had multiple great dealings with him, as have numerous others.
Was the package insured?
To clarify, I don’t think USPS insurance is worth shit. But the only way I’d consider believing the mailman did it is if the mailman knew the package was worth $5k. So I ask again, was it insured?
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Uninsured. That’s what I use CC on PayPal.
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We're obviously not going to know anything today, and not booyah fault but any thread like this is going to be a sh*tshow.
Since everyone's gotten to the same page and we don't know for certain who took/has the chips (but obviously not booyah), now can we start the memes?
Since everyone's gotten to the same page and we don't know for certain who took/has the chips (but obviously not booyah), now can we start the memes?
Maybe it's me, but what I'm struggling with the most is if I was in spacemonkeys shoes I would have likely responded with something along the lines of:
"Holy fuck, I'm appalled and dont even know what to say. I'm mortified. I'll immediately reimburse all funds until we get this sorted. I'm sorry man. Shit."
And then proceed to try to figure out what the hell happened, get details, contact the post office or figure out the claim process, etc.
As a seller it's my responsibility to get the chips to the buyer in good condition, and given doublebooyah's presence, sales history etc, I would never IMMMEDIATELY jump to questioning him back.
But maybe that's just me.. this all just smells wrong.
"Holy fuck, I'm appalled and dont even know what to say. I'm mortified. I'll immediately reimburse all funds until we get this sorted. I'm sorry man. Shit."
And then proceed to try to figure out what the hell happened, get details, contact the post office or figure out the claim process, etc.
As a seller it's my responsibility to get the chips to the buyer in good condition, and given doublebooyah's presence, sales history etc, I would never IMMMEDIATELY jump to questioning him back.
But maybe that's just me.. this all just smells wrong.
So the defense is that the bottom of the box was cut open, contents taken, paper put in, and it happened to be exactly the same weight?
I think we really need someone with a large HSI set to weigh the exact same chips
I think we really need someone with a large HSI set to weigh the exact same chips
BTW the 14 day delay also should not be used as an indicator either way. USPS is a joke right now and everyone knows that. Most of my packages take weird trips these days.
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And he sold them to me well below market value when last time he sold me chips, he took my offer and shopped it with every other known PCF collector.
Deal was truly too good to be true.
Wasn’t even for me. I was pumped my friend was getting these for his home game and he was only willing to pay this amount bc I told him how good of a deal it was.
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Craig is as good and as honest as they come. Zero question who is at fault here. #teambooyah
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Yeah if it was truly a heist it takes 30 minutes to complete the switcharoo.
Space monkey was probably sweating if they got lost and he would have to refund me hahahaha instead he gets to scam me lol.
@Cratty him not offering any $ and calling me the scammer is comical. If this happened to someone else and we did think the USPS was nefarious, I too would 100% reimbursed the buyer immediately as the seller and take the responsibility.
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There’s at least two of him.
One is a Christian poor working man raising orphans and can barely make it.
The other seems to be a high roller, buying and selling chips on behalf of celebrities and playing in some of the most exclusive venues.
Seems like there a third one that’s a scammer of sorts?
It’s kinda weird. Like it’s a community ID that’s used by multiple people.
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Damn, sorry to see this. I’ve done several deals with Booyah, and never had any issues. I can’t imagine he’d wait for this transaction to run a scam.
He's playing the long game
Anyone got a news story about Booyah’s industry collapsing? Otherwise this ain’t him man. One of the easiest/best people to transact with on the forum and certainly not hurting for $5k lol. Sorry to minimize your loss @doublebooyah85 but I’m just saying unless this is the longest con by someone with a theft kink this isn’t booyah. Booyah doesn’t need to pull off this scam
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NO WAY!!!!!!
To be clear, I am 100% team Booyah, but I also am very open to the problem being neither Booyah or Spacemonkey.
I don't know one side of this transaction, besides questionable reputation on PCF...but do have a much better view of the other side of the party...that suggestion about the recipient potentially putting papers back in is just insane...and completely laughable.
I have done similar and even larger transactions with him...and some individual transactions for significant sums. And as many on PCF know, I have done a LOT of transactions in the last few years and have probably seen it all...
I can count a handful of people on a short list that I would do almost any size transactions with without hesitation. Craig (@doublebooyah85) is on that short list.
yeah i just did some back-of-the-napkin math and came to the same conclusion - they were in the right ballpark. there's probably no value in weighing out the exact set without knowing what packing would have been.
It has already been said but I will say it as well, there is less than a 0% chance @doublebooyah85 is trying to scam anyone. No way, no how.
Sorry, but this stinks to high hell. It is not like these packages are tied together during shipping. So we are supposed to believe a postal worker found not one, but both packages, during the shipping process and committed a swap out for reams and reams of paper while taking the time to match the exact shipping weight? Sorry, not buying that nonsense at all.
Sorry, but this stinks to high hell. It is not like these packages are tied together during shipping. So we are supposed to believe a postal worker found not one, but both packages, during the shipping process and committed a swap out for reams and reams of paper while taking the time to match the exact shipping weight? Sorry, not buying that nonsense at all.
Oh ye of little faith.
I don't know and have never dealt with either person in this dispute. But I do have some experience shipping orders, and have over 1,000 successful transactions. Two packages I've shipped through USPS were clearly stolen while in the USPS system. (Thank God, only two.)
One disappeared completely after tracking showed it arriving at a specific sorting facility. The second went missing for awhile (same sorting facility), and I later received a flat envelope containing one side panel of the flat rate box, with the shipping label still attached, with a letter from USPS saying that it was "found in our facility separated from its contents." The thief would have had to cut the box open to get into it, probably with a razor.
My point? If someone is going to steal it inside the USPS system, it's either going to disappear completely or they're going to trash the box, take the contents and act like the box broke open during the process.
Refilling the box with paper and sending it on its way would be unnecessary (and would make no sense) to a thief inside the system.
Something else must have happened.
One disappeared completely after tracking showed it arriving at a specific sorting facility. The second went missing for awhile (same sorting facility), and I later received a flat envelope containing one side panel of the flat rate box, with the shipping label still attached, with a letter from USPS saying that it was "found in our facility separated from its contents." The thief would have had to cut the box open to get into it, probably with a razor.
My point? If someone is going to steal it inside the USPS system, it's either going to disappear completely or they're going to trash the box, take the contents and act like the box broke open during the process.
Refilling the box with paper and sending it on its way would be unnecessary (and would make no sense) to a thief inside the system.
Something else must have happened.
Me too and I agree!
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