You were suppose to find out and be right back
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Lol....easily distracted. You've seen me at the table
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SSSS Fantasy Pineapple (1 Viewer)
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Lol....easily distracted. You've seen me at the table
A few questions for the organizer:
1. Winner(s) are determined by total points scored by a pool player's picks (maximum of 3)?
2. So pool players with fewer than 3 picks are at a mathematical disadvantage?
3. How many pool players get paid -- is it winner-take-all?
1. Winner(s) are determined by total points scored by a pool player's picks (maximum of 3)?
2. So pool players with fewer than 3 picks are at a mathematical disadvantage?
3. How many pool players get paid -- is it winner-take-all?
Yes, yes, and yes
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Poker Zombie
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1) Yes
2) I had given some consideration to the mathematical advantage. More ponies = more chances to score points. I tried to set up the points system to make it a little more difficult to gain a real advanage but owning 2 or 3 is better than 1. However it will likely cost 2-3x more for that advantage.
3) As set, it's winner take all. It just seems easier that way when PayPal is involved.
Given the small field size, #2 seems geared for those with deep pockets or a relative disregard for money. Capping at two picks (or maybe even only one) might be better -- allowing all participants to have the same number of horses if desired......and likely encouraging greater participation, too.
In the interest of greater participation you could put a hard cap price on each runner after which they can only be purchased by those not attending... that could also eliminate scenarios where Player A is heads up in a situation where taking first would net him the $200 win but being that he owns his opponent, losing would get him $400.
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Nobody currently has more than 2, so we can make that adjustment.
The hard cap is a valid issue. I would hate to see the main tournament queered by the side action. If we pay out the top 2 instead of 3 in the tournament, the value for winning increases considerably. Alternatively, we could pay out the top 2 in the Fantasy pool, thus reducing the value of losing. Option 3 of course is to make the Pineapple event $50 or $60 buy-in.
Open to suggestions - I would want 100% approval of everyone with an active bid before making a change this drastic. @detroitdad @Ronoh @slisk250 @bentax1978 @BGinGA @Mr Tree
My personal suggestion would be to have the fantasy pool payout the same as the tournament itself. This wouldn't give an advantage to a person who had multiple fantasy players as cumulative points on your team wouldn't matter. Each person you have in the tournament is effectively an independent wager.
So let's say there's $300 in the fantasy pool, and the tournament itself pays out 70/30, whoever has the first place finisher would get $210 and whoever has the second place finisher would get $90.
So let's say there's $300 in the fantasy pool, and the tournament itself pays out 70/30, whoever has the first place finisher would get $210 and whoever has the second place finisher would get $90.
If you're considering paying more places I would request the option to drop the bid on myself down to the level of the current high bid (Forrest at $30). Overbidding on myself was a fun thing to do but makes far less sense if it's not winner take all 
I'm good sir. Make whatever changes you deem.
I like this suggestion a lot. Essentially, it turns the endeavor into a calcutta auction, where people are buying players in hopes that they place in the money (1st or 2nd in this case). It also eliminates the need for restrictions on the number of players a person can purchase, since there are no "cumulative team points" any longer. (The original "team points" concept in the OP is a valid one, but works much better in a large field where there are enough players to go around for the bettors. Not so much for a small 10-player with almost as many bettors). Additionally, with a Calcutta auction, the bettors can offer percentages of their action to others on the side, including the purchased players who may or may not want part of their own side action.
Perfectly okay with this.If you're considering paying more places I would request the option to drop the bid on myself down to the level of the current high bid (Forrest at $30). Overbidding on myself was a fun thing to do but makes far less sense if it's not winner take all
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The multiple payouts won't be too hard either, even with PP involved. Since so many punters will be face to face at the event, we can get something hashed out.
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After tonight's Zombie Poker event I should have a much better idea at how many want to attend the Ham & Pineapple event. Look for details in the Field post tomorrow morning.
Ben
Full House
$17 on BGinGA
$24 on Field
$24 on Field
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Details on expected Field are in:
Player A: A retiree, but not the nitty kind. In 18 Zombie events, he has a win and 2 places, but never finished in the money below 2nd.
Player B: An architect with a single Zombie Poker Club win in 21 events. Has never finished in the money outside of his single win.
Player C: The wife of Player B. Has cashed once in 19 events (2nd). Has rebought in 10 of those 19 events.
Player D: Questionable if she will play, is a drinking ninja. Somehow her game improves with alcohol. Not afraid to bluff with Jack high - right @Ben ?
Player A: A retiree, but not the nitty kind. In 18 Zombie events, he has a win and 2 places, but never finished in the money below 2nd.
Player B: An architect with a single Zombie Poker Club win in 21 events. Has never finished in the money outside of his single win.
Player C: The wife of Player B. Has cashed once in 19 events (2nd). Has rebought in 10 of those 19 events.
Player D: Questionable if she will play, is a drinking ninja. Somehow her game improves with alcohol. Not afraid to bluff with Jack high - right @Ben ?
So are we scratching the team/points idea? Prospective bidders need to know for sure in order to proceed...
The reason I ask is that I noted that Ronoh's bid was officially altered. Also, with no points and paying more than one place, the field bet should be able to pay off on more than one player.... which increases the value of field ownership.
The reason I ask is that I noted that Ronoh's bid was officially altered. Also, with no points and paying more than one place, the field bet should be able to pay off on more than one player.... which increases the value of field ownership.
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Will alter OP, but I agree on deleting the points idea.
Payouts will be based on the same percentages as the tournament payout structure, which is currently expected to pay the top 3.
Really sorry to be changing the rules this much - I was a little too eager to get this up and did not think it through very well. I expect better from me.
Payouts will be based on the same percentages as the tournament payout structure, which is currently expected to pay the top 3.
Really sorry to be changing the rules this much - I was a little too eager to get this up and did not think it through very well. I expect better from me.
With no points, I expect there will be no restrictions on runners. Could be wrong....
Mr Tree
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$30 on field
Ben
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Details on expected Field are in:
Player A: A retiree, but not the nitty kind. In 18 Zombie events, he has a win and 2 places, but never finished in the money below 2nd.
Player B: An architect with a single Zombie Poker Club win in 21 events. Has never finished in the money outside of his single win.
Player C: The wife of Player B. Has cashed once in 19 events (2nd). Has rebought in 10 of those 19 events.
Player D: Questionable if she will play, is a drinking ninja. Somehow her game improves with alcohol. Not afraid to bluff with Jack high - right @Ben ?
Not afraid to bluff me out of the side pot with ten high, allowing the all-in player with jack high to scoop, survive, and later become chip leader. Not that that happened or anything.:.
I raise to $35 ALL DAY!!!
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Update of the expected Field. Players A-D remain the same as before, Player E has been added.
Player A: A retiree, but not the nitty kind. In 18 Zombie events, he has a win and 2 places, but never finished in the money below 2nd.
Player B: An architect with a single Zombie Poker Club win in 21 events. Has never finished in the money outside of his single win.
Player C: The wife of Player B. Has cashed once in 19 events (2nd). Has rebought in 10 of those 19 events.
Player D: Questionable if she will play, is a drinking ninja. Somehow her game improves with alcohol. Not afraid to bluff with Ten high.
Player E: A musician who has cashed in 40% of the Zombie events she has attended. Used to host a 2-table poker meet-up group.
Player A: A retiree, but not the nitty kind. In 18 Zombie events, he has a win and 2 places, but never finished in the money below 2nd.
Player B: An architect with a single Zombie Poker Club win in 21 events. Has never finished in the money outside of his single win.
Player C: The wife of Player B. Has cashed once in 19 events (2nd). Has rebought in 10 of those 19 events.
Player D: Questionable if she will play, is a drinking ninja. Somehow her game improves with alcohol. Not afraid to bluff with Ten high.
Player E: A musician who has cashed in 40% of the Zombie events she has attended. Used to host a 2-table poker meet-up group.
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@ChaosRock @BGinGA and @k9dr have all been outbid with nobody left in the race. They may be waiting to snipe for their favorites or just bowing out.
As it stands currently, with exactly 13 expected players in the Crazy Pineapple Championship, the prize pool the Fantasy $ would be divided 50/30/20
1st: $126
2nd: $75.60
3rd: $50.40
Prize pool percentages may be adjusted if attendance goes to 14+ or fewer than 12
As it stands currently, with exactly 13 expected players in the Crazy Pineapple Championship, the prize pool the Fantasy $ would be divided 50/30/20
1st: $126
2nd: $75.60
3rd: $50.40
Prize pool percentages may be adjusted if attendance goes to 14+ or fewer than 12
Mr Tree
Straight Flush
What happens if folks talk about a chop?
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I suppose that the Fantasy money would get chopped in the same percentages as the chop. However, even in Vegas tournament play, Mrs Zombie and I have stuck it out to the end when heads-up in the end. I cannot imagine this would be any different. (y) :thumbsup:
If Player E wins and Player A finishes 2nd, does the Field owner collect for both? If not, how will this be handled?
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I believe that the easy way is the way to go here. Field will collect on all cashing positions.
I suspect this will really ramp up the Field value.
I suspect this will really ramp up the Field value.
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