Controversial Chip & Poker Opinions (16 Viewers)

upNdown said:
I’ve always thought the hall of fame and the calendars were more high-schoolish popularity contests than anything else, so it’s no big deal either way. But one could complain that this set had an unfair advantage over the rest of the field, since it was produced by GPI.
Looks cool though!
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I agree with all this. The HOF means absolutely nothing to me. There’s sets in there that I think are great, but there’s also plenty that made it because of nothing other than the popularity contest.

John’s set definitely has the Paulson advantage, but I still think he’s the best designer I’ve seen.
 
upNdown said:
I’ve always thought the hall of fame and the calendars were more high-schoolish popularity contests than anything else, so it’s no big deal either way. But one could complain that this set had an unfair advantage over the rest of the field, since it was produced by GPI.
Looks cool though!
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I can tell you the committee (the years I’ve been on anyways) does not treat it that way whatsoever and even the most popular get picked apart.

I agree on unfair advantage though and don’t care about it being in HOF. It is an interesting argument though.
 
upNdown said:
I’ve always thought the hall of fame and the calendars were more high-schoolish popularity contests than anything else, so it’s no big deal either way. But one could complain that this set had an unfair advantage over the rest of the field, since it was produced by GPI.
Looks cool though!
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I definitely agree with the first part... but best 'designed' chips/set is/should be judged regardless of the manufacturer. And as you mentioned, there is a ceramic set in the HOF... as we all know, quite a few PCFers have had a chance at GPI/Paulson. It doesn't take access to the GPI/Paulson factory to produce great looking chips... lots of stunning CPC sets have been produced and are in the HOF ... I am not sure if it's been done yet, but presume at some point if someone produces stunning plastic chips deemed 'personal' and not for public resale, they would qualify to be in HOF? Abbiati? Matsui?
 
@JeepologyOffroad I meant no disrespect to you whatsoever, just tired of having Tigers be the focus of everything. The hotstamp set did not have to be sold because of the massive profit taking on the inlaid chips, I do not think that can be denied. And I think those that paid $9 and above per chip only to murder and label them prove that hype can cause people to spend foolish amounts of money. I thought this thread was meant for airing controversial opinions, or am I wrong for saying what I think to be the case no matter how unpopular my opinion is. Yes, you have an eye for design, no I do not think it’s worth what people paid.
 
DMack said:
I agree with all this. The HOF means absolutely nothing to me. There’s sets in there that I think are great, but there’s also plenty that made it because of nothing other than the popularity contest.
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TBH, I didn't even know HOF existed for years.. I do remember having seen some threads about nominees, etc., but never even looked for the full list/thread/pictures of every chip or set that's in the HOF (and still have not...will probably do it this weekend :ROFL: :ROFLMAO:, just out of curiosity)
DMack said:
John’s set definitely has the Paulson advantage, but I still think he’s the best designer I’ve seen.
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Chipper's taste vary by a lot...we've seen it (and as a vendor, I've 'heard' a lot about it lately :ROFL: :ROFLMAO:) ...but def agree
 
BPTDirector said:
@JeepologyOffroad I meant no disrespect to you whatsoever, just tired of having Tigers be the focus of everything. The hotstamp set did not have to be sold because of the massive profit taking on the inlaid chips, I do not think that can be denied. And I think those that paid $9 and above per chip only to murder and label them prove that hype can cause people to spend foolish amounts of money. I thought this thread was meant for airing controversial opinions, or am I wrong for saying what I think to be the case no matter how unpopular my opinion is. Yes, you have an eye for design, no I do not think it’s worth what people paid.
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Completely get where you are coming from. And no disrespect to you either, but I do not think you have your hand on the pulse as much as you may think by reading various statements you’ve made.

And I agree, no need for tigers to be a focus. It’s kinda annoying. Plus I’ve never ever been the type to been in the center of a shit show so it annoys me even more. But that’s just nature of the beast. Most recent NAGB, whatever that may be, will always spark controversy.
 
kk405 said:
Larry would like to speak with you :ROFL: :ROFLMAO:

I am a huge fan of the Pacific Star chips... bummer it didn't have more hundos and an oversized $500/$1K...would have been glorious... I know, another controversial opinion ;)
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Wouldn’t be the first time.

And I will admit, there’s a black hundo and I think it’s the Pacific Star, which I might describe as stunning if you got me really drunk. But that’s the only one!
 
Moxie Mike said:
These are probably the same people who are whacking it to 20 year old bikini pictures of Shana Hyatt.
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For Reference Only

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but the chips... ugh.
 
kk405 said:
I definitely agree with the first part... but best 'designed' chips/set is/should be judged regardless of the manufacturer. And as you mentioned, there is a ceramic set in the HOF... as we all know, quite a few PCFers have had a chance at GPI/Paulson. It doesn't take access to the GPI/Paulson factory to produce great looking chips... lots of stunning CPC sets have been produced and are in the HOF ... I am not sure if it's been done yet, but presume at some point if someone produces stunning plastic chips deemed 'personal' and not for public resale, they would qualify to be in HOF? Abbiati? Matsui?
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The point is: everyone has equal access to each and every one of those manufacturers — apart from one. If everyone had the ability to produce Paulson chips, I'd put good money on there never being a single CPC set ever being out into the HOF again.
 
jr8719 said:
The point is: everyone has equal access to each and every one of those manufacturers — apart from one. If everyone had the ability to produce Paulson chips, I'd put good money on there never being a single CPC set ever being out into the HOF again.
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Disagree on both …
 
BPTDirector said:
I think @JeepologyOffroad ‘s CPC chips are easily as good of designs as the Tigers.
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Thank you. CPC is very different and very challenging.

While I still think not everyone could create a cohesive Paulson set, much less an “HOF worthy” one - just about everyone could create a nice chip or two with their extensive palette.
 
I love the Tiger chips themselves but would never buy them because of the inlay. It means nothing to me nor would it mean anything to my players. Not that any of my players give a fuck about chips, but they do know casinos, and when I break out my set of Paris or Sahara they take notice. I think they would like the neon-ish color scheme but they'd be scratching their head at the Chinese Tiger. I love what @doublebooyah85 did with his Craig's Casino inlay. It actually means more or speaks more to me than "Tiger Palace".
 
Poker Zombie said:
...but then showed back up on the Tigers?

I just figured that RPC had a terrible designer. For a time, I thought they were actual casino chips because the patterns were so bad.
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As somebody who had a large hand in designing the RPC cash sets and 43mm tourney set, I can say that the GPI limited spot patterns were devastating. We were told that pattens
# 18 21 26 28, 29, 30, 31,32,33 35 aka all the best ones, were all unavailable and only options for casino reorders of existing chips. I’m not sure what witchcraft Ken pulled to coerce GPI to make an exception, but it was both exciting to see and soul crushing after not having the option. Here’s the design brochure as GPI provided it.
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The original RPC cash lineups were something more like this. GPI also ended up subbing some colors even in the final lineup, which I don’t think the Tigers were subject to either.
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The 39mm tourney set ended up being designed by a different party, but my original design was supposed to be a 4W set prior to that spot getting pulled too.
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JeepologyOffroad said:
I did have to swap some colors after a few submissions. Assumed repeats of something existing. Wasn’t many though thankfully as I tried to be cognizant of it throughout
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GPI reallllly likes pushing their newer colors like Rubine Red (not red IMO) and Aqua for other shades of Red and Blue for some reason lol
 
kmccormick100 said:
GPI reallllly likes pushing their newer colors like Rubine Red (not red IMO) and Aqua for other shades of Red and Blue for some reason lol
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There are some funny stories I have regarding design. A bit to translate via text. Maybe at WaB we can exchange stories about it since we didn’t get to last time.
 
chippitydoodah said:
I love the Tiger chips themselves but would never buy them because of the inlay. It means nothing to me nor would it mean anything to my players. Not that any of my players give a fuck about chips, but they do know casinos, and when I break out my set of Paris or Sahara they take notice. I think they would like the neon-ish color scheme but they'd be scratching their head at the Chinese Tiger. I love what @doublebooyah85 did with his Craig's Casino inlay. It actually means more or speaks more to me than "Tiger Palace".
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This statement reminds me of Summer Social Club by @chrismurda

Absolutely love that inlay and what he did with his project of chips from different nagbs. Made it his own. While I believe there’s nothing like a real inlay… there’s also nothing like putting something together uniquely yours.
 

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