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Been working on these for several months. I'd like to say they're almost ready, but I wonder if you all may open the floodgates of change again.

Inlays are not 100% final, but close. Probably will just fiddle with the denom colors and denom outline colors from here on.

Top row is a wonky set just for fun. I wanted to try something a little new/bold/original. Thought I could push the edge spot boundaries while retaining symmetry. May use it as a guideline for a secondary or tourney set one day.

But more likely will start with the bottom cash set.

The Goals

Of course this should be a firey set. But not necessarily too bright or bold. Rather, the vibe should be something like a cigar lounge. Old-fashioned. Antiquey. Vintage.

The top row is intended to be more "realistic". More on that below...

Green: The Ash Tray

This is a 3-finger ash tray from the top down.

I could choose all kinds of base colors, but light green is pleasant and works well for a 25 (cent) chip. Canary was a close second, but I thought I already had too much red/yellow/orange elsewhere.

The top one is considered more realistic because of course, not everyone smokes the same cigar.

White: Smoke/Ash

Off-white because it's more smokey. Bright white would not be as vintage.

Top one has some actual round puffs of smoke. Bottom one really just uses the smokey/ashy colors.

Red: Fire

Technically orange but I think it will get called red at the felt. Top one is a striking match head. Bottom again, just uses similar colors.

Black: Coals/Embers

Can't have a fire set without charcoal. Not much else to say here. Looks a bit like embers. Has changed little throughout this process. Been one of my favorites.

Concerns

- Too many orangey colors between the red chip and the black chip? I could tone the black down to a 318. But I do want it to pop.

- Anything else?

 

[MeridianFC]

I get the concept you're going for on the top row but the bottom row just looks better. Also it's cheaper (you jack up the level cost with the odd spot). Your top row chips cost significantly more: Quarter +.78/chip, $1 +.53/chip, $5 +1.79/chip, $20 +.64/chip

The .25 could even have all Maroon spots, though the Butterscotch fits better with the retro vibe. I just do straight alternating on the $20.

 

[TheLemursReturn]

I get the concept you're going for on the top row but the bottom row just looks better. Also it's cheaper (you jack up the level cost with the odd spot). Your top row chips cost significantly more: Quarter +.78/chip, $1 +.53/chip, $5 +1.79/chip, $20 +.64/chip

The .25 could even have all Maroon spots, though the Butterscotch fits better with the retro vibe.

Agreed on the top row. If it happens, it won't be for a few years probably. And I'd likely end up revising in that time.

I did like maroon a ton. It's pretty and I like darker cigars too. May give it a shot.

 

[MeridianFC]

The bottom row even absent changes looks great. Clean and classic.

To hammer home the mantra of PCF, make sure you have actual color samples from CPC so you can judge how they work together in person in the environment you will be playing in. FWIW I think they look great and work well together but do not trust me (on this or any other matter).

 

[TheLemursReturn]

The bottom row even absent changes looks great. Clean and classic.

To hammer home the mantra of PCF, make sure you have actual color samples from CPC so you can judge how they work together in person in the environment you will be playing in. FWIW I think they look great and work well together but do not trust me (on this or any other matter).

Glad it's on the right track!

I do have the color samples. Really considered dayglo yellow for a firey edge spot, but didn't like how green it looks in person. Kinda pukey, to be honest haha.

 

[MrCatPants]

Glad it's on the right track!

I do have the color samples. Really considered dayglo yellow for a firey edge spot, but didn't like how green it looks in person. Kinda pukey, to be honest haha.

CPC orange is really dark in person - much darker than on the design tool - and the 20 being also dark doesn't quite match the brightness of the quarter and 1. Would consider different base colors for the last two chips.

 

[chipinla]

Not a fan of the top at all.

There’s something about your 5 and 20 that just doesn’t work to me. Personally if you’re going for a vintage feel, I think you should have a 3916 in there. Here’s a suggestion. Also, B-Mold is the best mold CPC offers IMO and works great for this set.

 

[TheLemursReturn]

Not a fan of the top at all.

There’s something about your 5 and 20 that just doesn’t work to me. Personally if you’re going for a vintage feel, I think you should have a 3916 in there. Here’s a suggestion. Also, B-Mold is the best mold CPC offers IMO and works great for this set.
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Thanks for sharing! I definitely see the vintage-ness of that red chip. I'll have to decide if I want to nuke the symmetry though.

As for the black chip, it's very cool, but I think I need to keep the orange to a minimum so it doesn't match the red chip too much. I also liked having all the edge spots constructed of 3's (either 3 spots or 2x3 spots).

 

[Gunnar]

Bottom .25 - 1 - 5 and the top 20 for me.

Like where this is going!

 

[Toby]

If you have color samples, it might also be worth procuring some custom sample sets or chips that will demonstrate the color combos you're interested in. And maybe check out the custom area of the Gallery for some inspiration..?

 

[SteveEH]

Bottom row looks great!

 

[TheLemursReturn]

Thanks for the input everyone! Gonna narrow it down to the bottom cash row and kick off some discussion on denom colors. What do we like?

One possible challenge with red is that it clashes with the logo. It's similar-but-different, which might make some people think it's messed up. ("Is it supposed to match the logo? Why is it a bit off?")

I don't love the "glow" effect on either $20. Might need to experiment a bit. Bottom definitely seems better though.

I also introduced a brown X chip that could be used for nickels if anyone wants to be cheap. Or $100s if none have gone missing and we decide to beef up the stakes one day. Or maybe show 'em chips, etc. in a normal game.

This lets me sneak in maroon and 3916 as well, which both sounded nice to have. It would be called The Cigar and fit in nicely with the other themes.

 

[SteveEH]

For the 20 how about a black base with charcoal and fire spots?

I like the light chocolate base as a nickel, but don't think it would go well as a 100 next to a dark base 20.

You could also make the spots on the quarter chocolate and change the nickel to a butterscotch base - see the Key West nickel.

 

[Fran]

I like to see this kind of thread, thanks.
@TheLemursReturn are you sure you want the denom above the inlay ? I personally find this a bit strange. Also check the CPC template to be sure that your design fits the red safe area, seems very close to edges imho.

 

[TheLemursReturn]

I like to see this kind of thread, thanks.
@TheLemursReturn are you sure you want the denom above the inlay ? I personally find this a bit strange. Also check the CPC template to be sure that your design fits the red safe area, seems very close to edges imho.

Ah, yes I'll tighten up the graphics to make sure there is enough bleed area before we finalize. Thanks for pointing that out.

As for the denom on top - I want "BURN" to be as big as possible, mainly so that the flame inside the "B" is as visible as possible. That flame is the only non-text element here, so I want to maximize it.

And of course, "CARD CLUB" has to be below "BURN". Which really only leaves room on top for the denom. Very open to ideas for rearranging though.

For the 20 how about a black base with charcoal and fire spots?

I like the light chocolate base as a nickel, but don't think it would go well as a 100 next to a dark base 20.

You could also make the spots on the quarter chocolate and change the nickel to a butterscotch base - see the Key West nickel.

The challenge with butterscotch is that it could easily be called orange in the right light. So it might conflict with the actual orange chip (even though we'd probably call the orange chip a red).

Maybe I could try an actual red for the red chip, but I really like the faded vintage feeling I get from the orange as a base. The reds come off as much bolder.

Similar thoughts with the black - I'm going for a faded feel (charcoal) as opposed to strikingly bold (black).

 

[TheLemursReturn]

As for the denom on top - I want "BURN" to be as big as possible, mainly so that the flame inside the "B" is as visible as possible. That flame is the only non-text element here, so I want to maximize it.

And of course, "CARD CLUB" has to be below "BURN". Which really only leaves room on top for the denom. Very open to ideas for rearranging though.

Here's one of my very first inlay drafts. Maybe I could revisit the denom in the middle. But I really don't like scaling down "BURN" unless I can get a graphical element in somewhere else.

 

[Fran]

I like the flame inside the B but maybe it will be too small on the chip.
I like the phenix in the background of your first mockup

 

[Fran]

Just a quick try for the fun

 

[TheLemursReturn]

Just a quick try for the fun
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Definitely a cool take. I'm very on the fence now...

On the one hand, having the denom on top never would have bothered me at all had you never mentioned it. And I really love what I have right now, with the giant BURN across the center.

On the other hand, I do want the chips to look fairly standard/normal in this regard and you seem to be right about denoms on the bottom.

Time to sleep on it hahaha.

 

[TheLemursReturn]

I took a stab at using a regular red chip so that butterscotch could be available as a base for the X chip.

I also dropped from light green to regular green. The light one seemed a little too bright/happy for a fiery/vintage set. But is it too dark now?

For awhile I thought it could clash with the dark $20 in low light, but after examining the samples in various lighting, I think it'll be fine. At least it's not dark green.

 

[Fran]

I had no intention to create confusion in your mind sorry… You need to like your inlay not me
There are other chips with denom above for exemple here:
https://www.pokerchipforum.com/thre...waukegan-il-sample-set-very-near-mint.101909/

 

[Fran]

 

[Fran]

 

[Fran]

 

[TheLemursReturn]

That last pic shows regular green, right?

Am I too basic now? Regular green... Regular white... Regular red...

Only a tiny bit exciting with charcoal next haha. Butterscotch is cool too, I guess.

 

[Fran]

Yes it’s regular green.

 

[Strat]

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Been working on these for several months. I'd like to say they're almost ready, but I wonder if you all may open the floodgates of change again.

Inlays are not 100% final, but close. Probably will just fiddle with the denom colors and denom outline colors from here on.

Top row is a wonky set just for fun. I wanted to try something a little new/bold/original. Thought I could push the edge spot boundaries while retaining symmetry. May use it as a guideline for a secondary or tourney set one day.

But more likely will start with the bottom cash set.

The Goals

Of course this should be a firey set. But not necessarily too bright or bold. Rather, the vibe should be something like a cigar lounge. Old-fashioned. Antiquey. Vintage.

The top row is intended to be more "realistic". More on that below...

Green: The Ash Tray

This is a 3-finger ash tray from the top down.

I could choose all kinds of base colors, but light green is pleasant and works well for a 25 (cent) chip. Canary was a close second, but I thought I already had too much red/yellow/orange elsewhere.

The top one is considered more realistic because of course, not everyone smokes the same cigar.

White: Smoke/Ash

Off-white because it's more smokey. Bright white would not be as vintage.

Top one has some actual round puffs of smoke. Bottom one really just uses the smokey/ashy colors.

Red: Fire

Technically orange but I think it will get called red at the felt. Top one is a striking match head. Bottom again, just uses similar colors.

Black: Coals/Embers

Can't have a fire set without charcoal. Not much else to say here. Looks a bit like embers. Has changed little throughout this process. Been one of my favorites.

Concerns

- Too many orangey colors between the red chip and the black chip? I could tone the black down to a 318. But I do want it to pop.

- Anything else?

I like 'em. I'd just use this font if I did them.

And if any of the players didn't recognize that font I'd throw them out of my house.

But I like what you did, especially with the "B" there.

 

[warma]

I like this. One thought: the matched stroke on the outside of the denoms looks off to me. Kinda blurry, not easy to read.

 

[TheLemursReturn]

Slept on all this for a few weeks. Started thinking that green doesn't fit in too well with the "cigar lounge" vibe. Went back to canary (the close second) but that killed butterscotch as a base (too similar).

But the next option, light chocolate, could work very well. This brown chip could easily be called "The Cigar".

Also nixed the boring X for a more fun design. And nixed the denom outlines. I think these denoms look much cleaner now.

Also an idea...

 

[allforcharity]

This is a lot of neutral colours in the bases and spots.