Lake Elsinore (1 Viewer)

I have beat this horse to death so many times the corpse is dust
And because of it I actually don't enjoy chipping much any more if it all. I do however love the meet ups and the people, which for me is enough to stay here. I never came to this place to make money, good for Jim I'm glad he's been successful. But all you dicks out there claiming people are smart because they flip is not what I am here for. I don't even care anymore, do it, bask in your glorious profits. But remember when you die you better have spent every last dime of those people's hard earned money. What I am happy taking away with me when I die is the memories made, the friendships I cherish. Value comes in many forms, not just money. But each person has there own definition of what they value and that's life. I do not complain about the auctions from Jim, it's unfortunate, but it is also warranted. My complaint is that I don't forsee any of them going to more than one person. That saddens me, as how will anyone else enjoy them? Love them? But not my problem, I can't even afford to waste my time with it. Please, carry on here, I need no futile comments back I'll just unwatch the thread and ignore you. And for what it's worth "dicks" is a general term, but your own validation for your actions brought that on. You may be a great person, that donates profits to charity, or helps homeless dogs and cats. I don't know you, but I also won't make a point to know you. And the fact that you'll say you don't care, well that's just fine by me. If we both don't care then we shan't need to argue.
E5BE6B0D-359B-4E19-AB0E-81FA6A2067DA.gif
 
Who cares?
I always laugh when I hear guys on sports talk radio, complaining about something, announce that they’ve been a season ticket holder for 20 years. Who cares. The guy (or god forbid pink-hat wearing girl) who just bought their first ticket paid just as much as you. So you’re both entitled to have exactly as much fun. Seniority doesn’t equal entitlement, in a football stadium or in a poker chip hobby.

I thought the pink hat coment was a throwback to the CT days. LOL.
 
I’m looking forward to seeing the chips in action and the sets that will be put together. Is this the first Cali sale for Jim or has there been other Cali sales in the past?
 
I’m looking forward to seeing the chips in action and the sets that will be put together. Is this the first Cali sale for Jim or has there been other Cali sales in the past?
please refrain from actually talking about the chips for sale. attempting to rerail a derailed dumpster fire isnt very pcf like.

any comments that arent perpuating peoples conscious and or subconscious need for drama, often veiled as "fun", may shatter the paradigm that some are still able to enjoy chipping despite the current "state of affairs".
 
please refrain from actually talking about the chips for sale. attempting to rerail a derailed dumpster fire isnt very pcf like.

any comments that arent perpuating peoples conscious and or subconscious need for drama, often veiled as "fun", may shatter the paradigm that some are still able to enjoy chipping despite the current "state of affairs".
I have enough stress and drama from work and life in general. Clay chips make me happy, because I’m just a simple guy.
 
Look, I’ll make it simple.

- buys chips, sells at or just slightly above cost - not a flipper…
- buys chips, intended to use them, build a set, mill them, relabel them, use them to scoop ice cream, wanted to throw them at Josh - sold them at a profit - not a flipper…

- buys chips with the sole intent to flip them back to the community at a higher price, with no intention to ever use them or do anything with them other than to profit - flipper.

Why is it so hard to understand? Say there are 1000 chips available. There are chip aficionados here who would want these at say $2.00. But someone buys them all at 2.00 and sells back to the people that wanted them in the first place for 5.00….

That person isn’t adding value. They aren’t cleaning or relabeling or milling or consolidating a set or finding chips that are difficult to locate or playing in a casino to harvest.

They’re just beating hobbyists to the sale and then selling them right back at a higher price to pocket the difference.

I think it’s pretty funny that people say “oh free market system wheee”. Hey, I love the free market system. Capitalism all the way.

But this isn’t fucking Wall Street and The Chip Room isn’t the NYSE. This is a fucking hobby, first and foremost.

The same people that extol the virtues of the free market system here would be PISSED if they wanted a good or service - like a rare automobile - that I ran in and purchased once I knew they wanted it and then sold it to them at a higher price.

I’m not adding any value there. I’m just being a greedy opportunistic dickhead.

Bill_Man618: “I went big on the IG sale with the intent of selling a majority off the chips to pocket some money….”

The community thanks you for your tireless service. Now piss off.
 
Look, I’ll make it simple.

- buys chips, sells at or just slightly above cost - not a flipper…
- buys chips, intended to use them, build a set, mill them, relabel them, use them to scoop ice cream, wanted to throw them at Josh - sold them at a profit - not a flipper…

- buys chips with the sole intent to flip them back to the community at a higher price, with no intention to ever use them or do anything with them other than to profit - flipper.

Why is it so hard to understand? Say there are 1000 chips available. There are chip aficionados here who would want these at say $2.00. But someone buys them all at 2.00 and sells back to the people that wanted them in the first place for 5.00….

That person isn’t adding value. They aren’t cleaning or relabeling or milling or consolidating a set or finding chips that are difficult to locate or playing in a casino to harvest.

They’re just beating hobbyists to the sale and then selling them right back at a higher price to pocket the difference.

I think it’s pretty funny that people say “oh free market system wheee”. Hey, I love the free market system. Capitalism all the way.

But this isn’t fucking Wall Street and The Chip Room isn’t the NYSE. This is a fucking hobby, first and foremost.

The same people that extol the virtues of the free market system here would be PISSED if they wanted a good or service - like a rare automobile - that I ran in and purchased once I knew they wanted it and then sold it to them at a higher price.

I’m not adding any value there. I’m just being a greedy opportunistic dickhead.

Bill_Man618: “I went big on the IG sale with the intent of selling a majority off the chips to pocket some money….”

The community thanks you for your tireless service. Now piss off.
Understand your frustration but pretty sure this happens with most hobbies/collections.
 
If you hold a Golden Ticket and use it for say the IG sale, do you buy only what you need or max out with the intent to sell what you don't need, get the chips for free AND make a profit. Seems like I saw at least one person do that while flaunting his 2k chips. WWACD?
 
I think more of the problem here is supply is limited. Paulson won’t sell to us. Intill they do we’re stuck with flippers auctions and a few decent humans who sell at cost.

Once Paulson lid blows off it’s game over for all these sets imo. That’s happening quicker than one might think with the 2-3 new ceramic companies playing major roles in this gpi thing. Clay market isn’t getting more popular. It’s ceramics and bj style every day a new order for them are released!!!

I have my hope for gpi to create a new home line at least. If not I have hopefully contacts in gaming committee in a few states down south who should be able to pull some strings to get new sets through via small countries with very loose laws and regulations! Put your heads to together it’s not difficult with some of your deep pockets to make it happen if I can on a middle American salary. Also windwalker and a few others have you looked at the bars and cardrooms for sale in some states lol come on man easy Pickens. Some are not even 75k lol but it make your $1-$2$3$4 chips and ncv and sell them to us lol. Just buy a lot of chips to flip to flippers haha
 
Okay, I am in!

He’s done great doing what he does. Who remembers the first sales from his website? he used eBay before pcf got whalers.

The flippers are part of the game, spinettis is just as much of this problem as the others. Guarantee if there’s no limit you’ll see people with 1000s in there cart. ( you end flipping by not paying premiums. You end premiums by letting whales die out ! ) once there gone you have plenty of supply less demand your made at flippers but in reality it’s not flippers you should be mad at its whales.

If I was Jim I’d create my own site again and list these for what ever I wanted. Auction the low count high denom on eBay. But he’s got you pcfers by the balls. Your all wanting the next best thing but in reality you can only use 1 set and 1 tournament set. So buying them for collections is dumb.

The fallout from this will be epic when it happens there will be a major price crash in future bc all chippers get burned out either by funds or by just this nonsense community lol. and whales move on from 1 project to the next. Who will you sell your $1000 a racks chips to when whales are gone. Cause 75% of us here won’t buy them now let alone then.
You sound like a mix between Jim Kramer and Alex Jones.
That’s great for you congratulations! You have disposable income for these. The majority don’t. I’m glad you enjoy them.

I don’t really care if you pay $5000 for your second rack. I’ll continue to pick up scrap bike tires for 85$ a rack and enjoy my .25-.50 home games and pay my middle America house mortgage at same time . While I continue to laugh at you guys paying
these prices and Jim padding his pocket .

Have a good day enjoy your 41 sets. Will see in future if your on set 82 and 200k in chips maybe you will but I’d say you won’t be.

Love to see how many members are og blue wall members.
Bro got the bug. the blue wall would praise him.
I'm actually very happy that Jim is putting up auctions. He's the one who puts in the effort to source these chips, drives for days to pick them up and sort through the literal barrels into barrels, packs and ships them super fast. He's the one that deserves to be compensated for all that effort, not the flippers. AND he's still bringing more chips to the community!
HALLELUJAH!
He’s not doing this for the community that’s where you guys have your head in the sand ! It’s just the easiest place for him to unload 100k chips currently. He started this maybe as a side hustle in 2000s with a website that transition to this site. But don’t kid your self it’s a full time gig for him now.

Anyone can be a buyer you just have to have money and more than likely an inside track to gaming control members who vouch for you. Better hope no one ever sees these prices or they’ll start selling them on govdeals.com just like how cities do now instead of having in person auctions. Same goes for job bids was in person or mail in. Now a outfit in Texas could be installing your sewer line instead of the local company right down the road.

These prices arnt good for the hobby. Just like how more and more casinos are now going with bud jones / and ceramics. There tired of us stealing chips for .50cents $1 and $2. Heck some even buying $5. Limited edition chips have almost stopped completely as well.
Damn straight! Jim is a hellova business man and his business is selling used casino poker chips.

He Ships/Packs/runs paypal like a pro! he nurtures relationships with casinos and regulators. Dude is running a business. AND he is cool with us collectors.

"anyone can be a buyer you just have to have money" haha. you are a fool is you think you could do this work. I used to to resell stuff, its hard work, its a full time job. Its a dirty job.

EVERYTHING is F-ing inflated. because of communists.
I mean for someone who hates flippers you seem to know a lot about them man. Who makes a significant source of income from flipping? I want to know them and learn from them. I've flipped chips before and if I didn't I'd have been a fool. I went big on the IG sale with the intent of selling a majority off the chips to pocket some money and get a new set. I ended up selling my chips to a new member who then became a friend and I was able to keep an IG set for myself. A set that had I not sold the chips at a markup I wouldn't have been able to afford. I was also able to afford a HS set which has been a goal of mine for a while. So I'm curious if thats also a violation of the PCF code of honor? If you aren't as wealthy as other members are you allowed to "flip" so you can affords a set you couldn't? That money goes to the community where it's going to be spent again or maybe that money goes to a member who needs some extra cash. I don't see how thats bad though. Realistically though this is an unsolvable problem. As long as Jim sells chips at wholesale prices smart people will buy as many as they can and sell them for more. You're a nice person if you sell at cost, but expecting others to be as nice as you and/or not take advantage of that kindness is foolish.
I scoured the eBay for years looking for chips that I could resell here, and looked here for deals and built racks and sets to resell to "trade up" and build better sets.
THIS is the way of the Jedi.
It all culminated in my 3 amaze-balls sets and now all I do is argue on the internet, looking for a reason to trade up again, its harder now.
Look, I’ll make it simple.

- buys chips, sells at or just slightly above cost - not a flipper…
- buys chips, intended to use them, build a set, mill them, relabel them, use them to scoop ice cream, wanted to throw them at Josh - sold them at a profit - not a flipper…

- buys chips with the sole intent to flip them back to the community at a higher price, with no intention to ever use them or do anything with them other than to profit - flipper.

Why is it so hard to understand? Say there are 1000 chips available. There are chip aficionados here who would want these at say $2.00. But someone buys them all at 2.00 and sells back to the people that wanted them in the first place for 5.00….

That person isn’t adding value. They aren’t cleaning or relabeling or milling or consolidating a set or finding chips that are difficult to locate or playing in a casino to harvest.

They’re just beating hobbyists to the sale and then selling them right back at a higher price to pocket the difference.

I think it’s pretty funny that people say “oh free market system wheee”. Hey, I love the free market system. Capitalism all the way.

But this isn’t fucking Wall Street and The Chip Room isn’t the NYSE. This is a fucking hobby, first and foremost.

The same people that extol the virtues of the free market system here would be PISSED if they wanted a good or service - like a rare automobile - that I ran in and purchased once I knew they wanted it and then sold it to them at a higher price.

I’m not adding any value there. I’m just being a greedy opportunistic dickhead.

Bill_Man618: “I went big on the IG sale with the intent of selling a majority off the chips to pocket some money….”

The community thanks you for your tireless service. Now piss off.
My God, you act like you we are running out of clay poker chips, we aren't.

All that's happening is that the older nostalgic antiques are more expensive, just like every other collectable. So what some dude bought all Jims rhc 1s. that's his gamble. It doesnt always work, (Lady Lucks flippers caught holding the bag)

I've been around since the blue wall, and every TCR sale, even back then, all the fancy minty chips got bought up first hour, its always been like that.
Etiquette was to wait about a year to profit, haha, but everyone did it. now its blatant and happens next day.

who cares.

Buy the chips you can afford. love the hobby and if you spend years here you will have what you dream.

Oh, and remember to get samples.

Jim Has continued to churn out amazing deals, Jacks, HSI, all were recent TCR sales that people built amazing sets on the cheap.
Newcomers, they just have to learn the game and Jim is the last bastion of expecting a deal on minty fresh clay. respect it.
 
Last edited:
I think more of the problem here is supply is limited. Paulson won’t sell to us. Intill they do we’re stuck with flippers auctions and a few decent humans who sell at cost.

Once Paulson lid blows off it’s game over for all these sets imo. That’s happening quicker than one might think with the 2-3 new ceramic companies playing major roles in this gpi thing. Clay market isn’t getting more popular. It’s ceramics and bj style every day a new order for them are released!!!

I have my hope for gpi to create a new home line at least. If not I have hopefully contacts in gaming committee in a few states down south who should be able to pull some strings to get new sets through via small countries with very loose laws and regulations! Put your heads to together it’s not difficult with some of your deep pockets to make it happen if I can on a middle American salary. Also windwalker and a few others have you looked at the bars and cardrooms for sale in some states lol come on man easy Pickens. Some are not even 75k lol but it make your $1-$2$3$4 chips and ncv and sell them to us lol. Just buy a lot of chips to flip to flippers haha
Maybe true, but it won’t be THC mold, RHC mold, or leaded. And will be very universal colors/themes like previous fantasy sets.

Card molds are very underrated and we also have CPC
 
Sry chiproom. I totally forgot this was his pre sale thread. My bad. Didn’t mean to steer this horse off the cliff. We have righted it beating but not bloody. I look forward to seeing this no limit auction play out.

….. And may the odds be in your favor.
 

Create an account or login to comment

You must be a member in order to leave a comment

Create account

Create an account and join our community. It's easy!

Log in

Already have an account? Log in here.

Back
Top Bottom