Nevadas Gpi orders for past months (16 Viewers)

Poker Zombie said:
Someone buying $1 chips, on a different mold that look like $25 chips on the edge, slid into a rack of legitimate $25 chips, perhaps 3 or 4 in each barrel. It's a $500 loss per rack for the casino. Do you think casinos would be OK with that?

Perhaps cashiers should take out every single chip individually. That would make cashing out after a limit game a shit-ton of fun. Not to mention looking at every single chip when you pull a pot in a poker game. Should the dealer do that, or is it the player's responsibility?

It's not just about the mold. Not even remotely.

I will also point out that since GPI stopped selling to the public, GPI's earnings improved. Then they were bought out by a private investment firm, so their data is no longer public. But why go back to the failed model when the working model... works?

Look, I wish GPI sold to the end consumer too. But lets not be stupid. There are people that will take any angle to make a profit. Just look at every sale of hard-to-get chips after a Chiproom sale. There are PCF'ers that are looking to rape other PCF'ers for a G**d**n dollar. What angle do you think a criminal would take on a faceless casino?
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While molds don’t help in that angle rfid does and 90% of all new casinos have rfid in $25 and up chips most with $1-5$ so it’s unlikely that you could scheme them . The new scanning devices ( the limit sign That says $5-$5000 and the bonus sign ) yea those arnt just signs those are new rfid scanners and it can tell you the amount in play on every hand and the amount each player has on the table!!!!

Maybe in the 90s that could be slighted but today casinos have no worries about a guy sliding a fake $100 on a roulette table or cashing a rack of $25s In at cage.

So it a muted point there’s a reason nearly all Vegas places are going custom mold now!!
 
Now golden nuggets new $1 would be interested to see if it has a rfid or not. Assume no that looks easy as pie to recreate heck all you need is a measly 3d printer to that job
 
Isn’t house Mold is to advertise their branding ?

I will prefer using house Mold over other if I open my own casino just for that reason

Casino like ARIA is relatively good example as they have done their $1 edging well and choosing blue over white with the house Mold
 
Poker Zombie said:
Someone buying $1 chips, on a different mold that look like $25 chips on the edge, slid into a rack of legitimate $25 chips, perhaps 3 or 4 in each barrel. It's a $500 loss per rack for the casino. Do you think casinos would be OK with that?

Perhaps cashiers should take out every single chip individually. That would make cashing out after a limit game a shit-ton of fun. Not to mention looking at every single chip when you pull a pot in a poker game. Should the dealer do that, or is it the player's responsibility?

It's not just about the mold. Not even remotely.

I will also point out that since GPI stopped selling to the public, GPI's earnings improved. Then they were bought out by a private investment firm, so their data is no longer public. But why go back to the failed model when the working model... works?

Look, I wish GPI sold to the end consumer too. But lets not be stupid. There are people that will take any angle to make a profit. Just look at every sale of hard-to-get chips after a Chiproom sale. There are PCF'ers that are looking to rape other PCF'ers for a G**d**n dollar. What angle do you think a criminal would take on a faceless casino?
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I hear you, but I would imagine the policy of not being able to recreate chips that have already been made in the past or are in circulation presently would still stand. I wouldn't be able to recreate a black 8V chip with white and whatever green the Aria $100 uses.

I would even go as far to say that the concept of physical chips in a casino is going to be a thing of the past within the next 20 to 25 years. What's going to happen to all of that machinery in Mexico when physical chips are phased out and everything is electronic/digital?
 
facinfears217 said:
While molds don’t help in that angle rfid does and 90% of all new casinos have rfid in $25 and up chips most with $1-5$ so it’s unlikely that you could scheme them . The new scanning devices ( the limit sign That says $5-$5000 and the bonus sign ) yea those arnt just signs those are new rfid scanners and it can tell you the amount in play on every hand and the amount each player has on the table!!!!

Maybe in the 90s that could be slighted but today casinos have no worries about a guy sliding a fake $100 on a roulette table or cashing a rack of $25s In at cage.

So it a muted point there’s a reason nearly all Vegas places are going custom mold now!!
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I'm afraid you are incorrect with your information.
 
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JMC9389 said:
I hear you, but I would imagine the policy of not being able to recreate chips that have already been made in the past or are in circulation presently would still stand. I wouldn't be able to recreate a black 8V chip with white and whatever green the Aria $100 uses.

I would even go as far to say that the concept of physical chips in a casino is going to be a thing of the past within the next 20 to 25 years. What's going to happen to all of that machinery in Mexico when physical chips are phased out and everything is electronic/digital?
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Sadly, I agree with you that chips may eventually be phased out. We may disagree on the timeline, but 25 years is not an entirely unreasonable estimate. I'm not going to hypothesize what they would do with the equipment - I doubt that GPI even has considered anything that far down the road.

I do know from the Red Ott debacle, that making clay compression chips is more difficult than just powering up a machine. At any rate, that machinery wont be of much use for home-game chips in my lifetime.
 
facinfears217 said:
Ordering from gpi

I know most of you all say well Paulson doesn’t sell to us because we don’t buy enough. Look at the last couple of months Nevada gaming chip approvals and the amount bought.

I can guarantee we could match those numbers monthly no problem.

Easy , I myself could match that order if they offered that. My current cpc set is at 10k with majority being over the tier lv 6 . So do the math Paulsons when offered through apaches were $1.59 I think.


Attached this month report and link for your viewing pleasure. Nevada isn’t exactly funding gpi currently. Past months reports gpi numbers are way way down. Pandemic I’m sure has killed their revenue.

https://gaming.nv.gov/index.aspx?page=146
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What kind of game do you run that you need 10K chips?? Any pics of that set anywhere?
 
Poker Zombie said:
Few, if any, casinos order anywhere in the neighborhood of a million chips.

From 1936-1988 Burt Company made chips for many (all?) Las Vegas casinos. They distributed them through H.C. Williams, Bud Jones, Christy and Jones, TK Specialty, Langworthy and Mason. In 1988, Jim Blanchard acquired all of the assets from Burt Co., and continued under the Name Atlantic Standard Molding (ASM).

In 2013, Jim retired and sold everything to Red Ott, who moved the operations from Maine to Las Vegas, changing the name to American Standard Molding (ASM Vegas to chip collectors). ASM Vegas failed miserably.

David Spragg bought ASM Vegas. The assets were moved back to Maine (that's a whole different saga) and brought Jim out of retirement to make chips. The ASM name, now muddied, was changed to Classic Poker Chips (CPC).

Other than the damage to some equipment during the ASM Vegas days, wear and tear of old equipment, and staffing issues in the COVID world, there is no reason to think they couldn't still handle an order to a casino the size of the Sahara Las Vegas today.
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is everybody in the chip business named Jim?
 
Here we go with this again. Every time it leaks that someone got chips through we see this type of post. Just ask the latest group who got some through. If it mattered to the chip company none would get through. Customs made are worth whatever one would want to pay. Myself paying 10-30 $ a chip for something that is merely a fantasy chip is pure stupidity. But it’s a whatever floats your boat thing!! (No pun intended).
Are there no tribe members here?? All you need is a gaming license to buy from them. Seems like an easy task no? All the smoke and mirrors do nothing but keep the price of 3$ chips up at 20$. Obviously no one’s trying that hard.
 
Poker Zombie said:
Someone buying $1 chips, on a different mold that look like $25 chips on the edge, slid into a rack of legitimate $25 chips, perhaps 3 or 4 in each barrel. It's a $500 loss per rack for the casino. Do you think casinos would be OK with that?

Perhaps cashiers should take out every single chip individually. That would make cashing out after a limit game a shit-ton of fun. Not to mention looking at every single chip when you pull a pot in a poker game. Should the dealer do that, or is it the player's responsibility?

It's not just about the mold. Not even remotely.

I will also point out that since GPI stopped selling to the public, GPI's earnings improved. Then they were bought out by a private investment firm, so their data is no longer public. But why go back to the failed model when the working model... works?

Look, I wish GPI sold to the end consumer too. But lets not be stupid. There are people that will take any angle to make a profit. Just look at every sale of hard-to-get chips after a Chiproom sale. There are PCF'ers that are looking to rape other PCF'ers for a G**d**n dollar. What angle do you think a criminal would take on a faceless casino?
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I think this would get caught pretty quickly. Not just the dealers but the players and cage would catch on. Very hard to do in any volume that would amount to a real ding on a casino.

P.S. The cage does not have to look at every chip one by one. Do a spot check of a random barrel if each rack. Spread the barrel across with your palm, easy to restack. This would take 10 seconds for a trained eye/hand.
 
Taghkanic said:
I think this would get caught pretty quickly. Not just the dealers but the players and cage would catch on. Very hard to do in any volume that would amount to a real ding on a casino.
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I would like to agree with you, but we are talking about casinos here. The people that stopped paying the change on TITO tickets. The people that paid for a device to measure the $ through a slot machine so players couldn't get more free drinks than they are mathematically likely to have lost. The people that started charging for parking. The people that charge "resort fees" in their hotels. The people that changed out an entire set of WSOP chips because there were similar looking chips in existence. The people that changed the rules of blackjack to get a bigger edge on a game they already had the edge on. The people that reduced the size of a free drink. The people that have started replacing dealers with computers. The people that took the group aspect out of craps and replaced it with bubble craps. The list goes on and on and on...

If 1 in 10,000 chips were easily ordered and snuck through, the casinos would want it stopped.

The cost to a casino to say "don't sell these to non-casinos"... $0.
 
Here is a link to a a video I posted before which is The story of the Greatest Casino Chip scammers below. They stole more than a million from various casinos by remaking legitimate chips into higher denominations. GPI I don't think will ever enter the home market ever again.

 
Nuhockey said:
Here is a link to a a video I posted before which is The story of the Greatest Casino Chip scammers below. They stole more than a million from various casinos by remaking legitimate chips into higher denominations. GPI I don't think will ever enter the home market ever again.

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They didn’t buy any chips from Paulson. Hard to see how Paulson not selling to the home market stops this.
 
RivieraDanny said:
They do sell to the public, just find a licensee willing to order you the chips.
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That is how the Bergs/Chicken/HQ chips got made. However, when the second round of chips were ordered for 3 other people (from the same source), GPI sent a letter stating that their chips were "not for you".
 
RivieraDanny said:
They do sell to the public, just find a licensee willing to order you the chips.
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... just find a licensee willing to order you the chips and then never fucking mention it to anyone, ever, especially not to anyone on PCF.

For all we know there's another dozen sets out there like SB and BTP where the owners are smart enough to keep their damn mouths shut.

(dibs)
 
Poker Zombie said:
I would like to agree with you, but we are talking about casinos here. The people that stopped paying the change on TITO tickets. The people that paid for a device to measure the $ through a slot machine so players couldn't get more free drinks than they are mathematically likely to have lost. The people that started charging for parking. The people that charge "resort fees" in their hotels. The people that changed out an entire set of WSOP chips because there were similar looking chips in existence. The people that changed the rules of blackjack to get a bigger edge on a game they already had the edge on. The people that reduced the size of a free drink. The people that have started replacing dealers with computers. The people that took the group aspect out of craps and replaced it with bubble craps. The list goes on and on and on...

If 1 in 10,000 chips were easily ordered and snuck through, the casinos would want it stopped.

The cost to a casino to say "don't sell these to non-casinos"... $0.
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I wasn’t saying casinos wouldn’t make an irrational stink. Rather I was noting that their actual risk seems very low.
 
CrazyEddie said:
... just find a licensee willing to order you the chips and then never fucking mention it to anyone, ever, especially not to anyone on PCF.

For all we know there's another dozen sets out there like SB and BTP where the owners are smart enough to keep their damn mouths shut.

(dibs)
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Seriously if you find a licensee willing to order you chips why would you have to keep your mouth shut? Its not like they're going to cut the customer who ordered chips off.... Its a company policy at GPI not a law that they don't sell chips to the masses. Every other chip ordered for someone ends up being flipped here for 10X what they're worth anyway..... Its not like 10's of thousands of chips are going under the radar.. I've seen it said so many times that GPI watches the sales threads here (Which I doubt) so there's multiple sets sold here that were "Snuck Through" and nothing happened from them. Ooooo its a secret....... NOT. I'm pretty sure they sell whatever chips a licensee orders and ships them. Do you think keeping them hidden for a year really does anything??
 
Poker Zombie said:
Tagging this post.

20 years from now chippers are going to be like "I cant believe that they used to think $14 a chip would be a lot!" :ROFL: :ROFLMAO: :ROFL: :ROFLMAO: :ROFL: :ROFLMAO:
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Oh my god...in 20 years I'm gonna be that person.

"Lol, this jackhole complained when 120 dollar chips were 14 bucks. Loljoshkifer."
 

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