Nevadas Gpi orders for past months (1 Viewer)

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I know most of you all say well Paulson doesn’t sell to us because we don’t buy enough. Look at the last couple of months Nevada gaming chip approvals and the amount bought.

I can guarantee we could match those numbers monthly no problem.

Easy , I myself could match that order if they offered that. My current cpc set is at 10k with majority being over the tier lv 6 . So do the math Paulsons when offered through apaches were $1.59 I think.


Attached this month report and link for your viewing pleasure. Nevada isn’t exactly funding gpi currently. Past months reports gpi numbers are way way down. Pandemic I’m sure has killed their revenue.

https://gaming.nv.gov/index.aspx?page=146
 

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facinfears217 said:
I know most of you all say well Paulson doesn’t sell to us because we don’t buy enough. Look at the last couple of months Nevada gaming chip approvals and the amount bought.
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Most of us don't say that. Those that do are wrong.

Paulson doesn't sell to base consumers for the same reason that the paper supplier to the US Treasury doesn't sell their products to anybody else. They don't want counterfeits made. More specifically, their customers don't want counterfeits made.

Maybe they could produce a smaller chip (<36mm), but that would require new equipment. Anything else, including a different mold can still be passed by the rack if the colors are similar enough.

After a series of counterfeit schemes over the past 10 years or so, there is no incentive for Paulson to lose those contracts, unless you think could guarentee we would buy more chips than every casino in the world.
 
GPI usually sell an order with a quotation of x number with add on and such to Casino

Casino only will order the start up chip that are needed and slowly place order to repelish their chip bank if it get Low or they need more ; also they will order add on like Chinese New Year chip etc that why you will see a lot of small order that is part of the Big order quotation
 
facinfears217 said:
Ordering from gpi

I know most of you all say well Paulson doesn’t sell to us because we don’t buy enough. Look at the last couple of months Nevada gaming chip approvals and the amount bought.

I can guarantee we could match those numbers monthly no problem.

Easy , I myself could match that order if they offered that. My current cpc set is at 10k with majority being over the tier lv 6 . So do the math Paulsons when offered through apaches were $1.59 I think.


Attached this month report and link for your viewing pleasure. Nevada isn’t exactly funding gpi currently. Past months reports gpi numbers are way way down. Pandemic I’m sure has killed their revenue.

https://gaming.nv.gov/index.aspx?page=146
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GPI will adjust to the market and still will not sell to the plebs.

Or...GPI goes belly up and after TRK & BCC, we lose another manufacturer....and create the biggest heatwave on PCF ever
 
facinfears217 said:
I know most of you all say well Paulson doesn’t sell to us because we don’t buy enough.
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No one says this.

Every now and then we have to say the exact opposite when someone once again suggests we should just pool our money and make a really big order so that Paulson agrees to sell to us.

Paulson doesn't sell to us because the casinos told Paulson not to.
 
I’m sure foreign market could hold up gpi forever . But the North American market looks mhhh

Solution possible, no need for a scientist lol limit us to a 10k+ order ,specific mold, and edge spots limits that are only offered to us with certain colors these colors could be new ones not available to casinos.
 
CrazyEddie said:
No one says this.

Every now and then we have to say the exact opposite when someone once again suggests we should just pool our money and make a really big order so that Paulson agrees to sell to us.

Paulson doesn't sell to us because the casinos told Paulson not to.
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Let’s buy a casino spread a .50 $1 $1.25, $1.50 $1.75 $2 $3 $4 $5 chips lol
 
Real question - would casinos pivot away from compression molded chips entirely if Paulson went bust? They’re the only manufacturer at volume of that type of chip right?
 
TheBigSteve said:
Real question - would casinos pivot away from compression molded chips entirely if Paulson went bust? They’re the only manufacturer at volume of that type of chip right?
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CPC will also make chips for casinos, and has a few molds reserved specifically for "casino use only".

However, CPC has not excluded the home market, and holds no casino contracts (that I know about).
 
Poker Zombie said:
CPC will also make chips for casinos, and has a few molds reserved specifically for "casino use only".

However, CPC has not excluded the home market, and holds no casino contracts (that I know about).
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is my impression of CPC wrong that they don’t have the manpower to handle million chip scale?
 
Few, if any, casinos order anywhere in the neighborhood of a million chips.

From 1936-1988 Burt Company made chips for many (all?) Las Vegas casinos. They distributed them through H.C. Williams, Bud Jones, Christy and Jones, TK Specialty, Langworthy and Mason. In 1988, Jim Blanchard acquired all of the assets from Burt Co., and continued under the Name Atlantic Standard Molding (ASM).

In 2013, Jim retired and sold everything to Red Ott, who moved the operations from Maine to Las Vegas, changing the name to American Standard Molding (ASM Vegas to chip collectors). ASM Vegas failed miserably.

David Spragg bought ASM Vegas. The assets were moved back to Maine (that's a whole different saga) and brought Jim out of retirement to make chips. The ASM name, now muddied, was changed to Classic Poker Chips (CPC).

Other than the damage to some equipment during the ASM Vegas days, wear and tear of old equipment, and staffing issues in the COVID world, there is no reason to think they couldn't still handle an order to a casino the size of the Sahara Las Vegas today.
 
As many have already said, the issue is security. GPI has a solid relationship built with the casino industry. The gaming companies value the security of GPI products and as a result GPI doesn't want to risk that security or relationship by selling to the home market. GPI also knows that casinos will continue to buy month after month, year after year, and decade after decade because that's how long they've been selling their products. The reality is that chip snobs like us are a small minority of poker players. The vast majority of casual card players would never even consider spending even $1/chip. I strongly doubt that over the span of years, the home market would exceed what GPI can make from casinos.
 
chicubs1988 said:
As many have already said, the issue is security. GPI has a solid relationship built with the casino industry. The gaming companies value the security of GPI products and as a result GPI doesn't want to risk that security or relationship by selling to the home market. GPI also knows that casinos will continue to buy month after month, year after year, and decade after decade because that's how long they've been selling their products. The reality is that chip snobs like us are a small minority of poker players. The vast majority of casual card players would never even consider spending even $1/chip. I strongly doubt that over the span of years, the home market would exceed what GPI can make from casinos.
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I mean they could do a mold exclusively for the consumer line only.
 
ktran said:
I mean they could do a mold exclusively for the consumer line only.
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I've said for a while they should leave the THC, RHC, and IHC molds for the home market only if their main concern is security. If security really is their main concern, make it a policy that all new chip orders from casinos will need to be done on a unique house mold for that casino. It's difficult to replicate that and not so much for the top hat and cane molds. GPI can then charge a premium for new mold creation and their sales team can get a larger commission. The home market gets to make custom chips on the highly desirable THC and IHC molds, and I guess the RHC mold. Win/win for everyone.

It makes sense.
 
JMC9389 said:
I've said for a while they should leave the THC, RHC, and IHC molds for the home market only if their main concern is security. If security really is their main concern, make it a policy that all new chip orders from casinos will need to be done on a unique house mold for that casino. It's difficult to replicate that and not so much for the top hat and cane molds. GPI can then charge a premium for new mold creation and their sales team can get a larger commission. The home market gets to make custom chips on the highly desirable THC and IHC molds, and I guess the RHC mold. Win/win for everyone.

It makes sense.
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Yeah I don't buy the for "security" reasons.
 
I agree house mold only for casinos thc only for home market. Like I said I think macu market could keep gpi afloat forever and they don’t use clay nearly at all.

matsui tested the waters with clay it’s not impossible that they could theoretically start up again. Can we convince them to start this back up lol. Or sell me the equipment I’ll start it for them hahahaha
 
ktran said:
I mean they could do a mold exclusively for the consumer line only.
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JMC9389 said:
I've said for a while they should leave the THC, RHC, and IHC molds for the home market only if their main concern is security. If security really is their main concern, make it a policy that all new chip orders from casinos will need to be done on a unique house mold for that casino. It's difficult to replicate that and not so much for the top hat and cane molds. GPI can then charge a premium for new mold creation and their sales team can get a larger commission. The home market gets to make custom chips on the highly desirable THC and IHC molds, and I guess the RHC mold. Win/win for everyone.

It makes sense.
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facinfears217 said:
I agree house mold only for casinos thc only for home market. Like I said I think macu market could keep gpi afloat forever and they don’t use clay nearly at all.

matsui tested the waters with clay it’s not impossible that they could theoretically start up again. Can we convince them to start this back up lol. Or sell me the equipment I’ll start it for them hahahaha
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Someone buying $1 chips, on a different mold that look like $25 chips on the edge, slid into a rack of legitimate $25 chips, perhaps 3 or 4 in each barrel. It's a $500 loss per rack for the casino. Do you think casinos would be OK with that?

Perhaps cashiers should take out every single chip individually. That would make cashing out after a limit game a shit-ton of fun. Not to mention looking at every single chip when you pull a pot in a poker game. Should the dealer do that, or is it the player's responsibility?

It's not just about the mold. Not even remotely.

I will also point out that since GPI stopped selling to the public, GPI's earnings improved. Then they were bought out by a private investment firm, so their data is no longer public. But why go back to the failed model when the working model... works?

Look, I wish GPI sold to the end consumer too. But lets not be stupid. There are people that will take any angle to make a profit. Just look at every sale of hard-to-get chips after a Chiproom sale. There are PCF'ers that are looking to rape other PCF'ers for a G**d**n dollar. What angle do you think a criminal would take on a faceless casino?
 

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