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Is there an amount of chips and a price per chip to get them to sell us Paulson chips?

  • No. There is no $ or quantity to get them to agree

    Votes: 48 32.7%

  • Yes. But we would never pay it.

    Votes: 23 15.6%

  • Yes. And we would pay it.

    Votes: 15 10.2%

  • You could offer them $100 a chip for a million chips and they’d say no.

    Votes: 17 11.6%

  • This polls full of crap

    Votes: 54 36.7%
  • Total voters
    147
  • Poll closed .
Poker Zombie said:
RFID is used in very few chips. Smaller casinos don't use RFID. Fracs thru $25s dont use RFID. Almost no table uses RFID.

You are crying the same battle-cry that many before you have. "Offer then enough, and they will change their mind!"

You are right though... GPI is a business. If you offer them enough to buy the company outright, you can do what you want. But the current owners, and the owners before them gave us a solid no.

Because of that no, different angles have been used. Posing as a significant player in the cruise ship industry. Posing as a wealthy VIP thet a casino wanted to keep happy. At least one other angles I'm not aware of. Those have been successful, then stopped - except maybe for the one I'm not sure how it got through... but that's the point. To get an order by their precautions, very few people get to know.

And it's not just placing a very large order.
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So you're in the camp of they will say no to any amount at any price?
 
RivieraDanny said:
I would love nothing to help the community but I believe the cost would be high. So high that no one would pay. I only said it would have to be worth their while. As of now no ones made it worth their while. Just assume they would say no to ANY OFFER. Who should put up and shut up is the guy that can make them an offer and get the job done. I don’t have that money!!! What I do have in the attitude that life should be fun and easy. What I don’t have room for in RL or on social media is to be condescended to or called names. And like some who just take that kind of crap from people who come off like they know so much more than you and instead of sharing useful information with you act like that. So. It becomes a nice way to tell someone without telling them to eat shit. That guy doesn’t know me from Adam and used a friendly forum to be an asshole. That’s all. Even my OP never said I had a connection to have Chios made at GPI. NOT ONCE. But he challenged. I laid it out.
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I am genuinely interested in the conversations that you've had with your buddy, I bet he has had some INSANE stuff to tell you about if he is a Sr. VP at any casino, let alone one of the two main players on the Vegas Strip. However, this thread is a verified train wreck. I would suggest that you start a new thread and talk about that.
 
Another possible route to go about getting Paulson chips is to have someone wealthy or a collective of people buy a casino that's run down and in a state of disrepair. Owners hold a legitimate gaming license, they can order chips from GPI. Make all the new chips NCV chips that way they hold no true cash value that would otherwise muddy the waters. Chips make their way to the community this way. Owners of casino can order more as they see fit.

Am I oversimplfying this?
 
ChipEnvy said:
I am genuinely interested in the conversations that you've had with your buddy, I bet he has had some INSANE stuff to tell you about if he is a Sr. VP at any casino, let alone one of the two main players on the Vegas Strip. However, this thread is a verified train wreck. I would suggest that you start a new thread and talk about that.
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Lots of fun stories in the sin city. Grew up my whole life hearing the best stories!!! maybe one day that thread!! This thread was more about the way we treat each other amongst other things and less about what a producer will say yes or no to............
 
shorticus said:
Sooooo it’s there a 100K bet here or not? Any side action???
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well, viably there a 100 bet that a certain arrogant person cant get a certain letter from a certain company. The rest is all bullshit unless you want to pay 15-20 a chip for a million chips!! lololol
 
RivieraDanny said:
So you're in the camp of they will say no to any amount at any price?
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I'm saying that if you or I directly called and asked, you would get a "no". They don't even ask "how many".

Now someone has used an insider before. The insider was a road in, and that route could be used again - which is why I am following this thread so closely. You know a guy, and that guy has the credit to just waltz past GPI security with our order.

I for one am very hopeful, but always skeptical.
 
If he can’t be convinced to hit the return key every now and again he’s not going to be convinced of much of anything.


shorticus said:
Sooooo it’s there a 100K bet here or not? Any side action???
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Side bet that if he offers $20 a chip for a million chips via email that the one receiving said email doesn’t make it far enough in to read the offer? :D
 
Ronoh said:
If he can’t be convinced to hit the return key every now and again he’s not going to be convinced of much of anything.



Side bet that if he offers $20 a chip for a million chips via email that the one receiving said email doesn’t make it far enough in to read the offer?
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I feel like the side action is a win win for me. If I’m wrong, I get to put in an order for Paulsons from GPI. If I’m right, I double up my 1K and put a down payment on some BTP’s :ROFL: :ROFLMAO:
 
Wow this thread! LOL

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Poker Zombie said:
I'm saying that if you or I directly called and asked, you would get a "no". They don't even ask "how many".

Now someone has used an insider before. The insider was a road in, and that route could be used again - which is why I am following this thread so closely. You know a guy, and that guy has the credit to just waltz past GPI security with our order.

I for one am very hopeful, but always skeptical.
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If you suffered thru this thread upwards of the top, I said before the "Challenge" that I've asked that before and the answer was a probable no. I NEVER MADE THAT CLAIM. And if I was successful with that angle I wouldn't share.... Sorry... But I still love you all! lol except 1 so far!
 
shorticus said:
I feel like the side action is a win win for me. If I’m wrong, I get to put in an order for Paulsons from GPI. If I’m right, I double up my 1K and put a down payment on some BTP’s :ROFL: :ROFLMAO:
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This is how a good friend does sports betting. He always bets against his team. You win either way. :ROFL: :ROFLMAO:
 
I don’t even remember who I was so offended by anymore it’s so far up the chain. Guess I’ll keep referring to him as mr know it all!!
 
JMC9389 said:
Another possible route to go about getting Paulson chips is to have someone wealthy or a collective of people buy a casino that's run down and in a state of disrepair. Owners hold a legitimate gaming license, they can order chips from GPI. Make all the new chips NCV chips that way they hold no true cash value that would otherwise muddy the waters. Chips make their way to the community this way. Owners of casino can order more as they see fit.

Am I oversimplfying this?
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Makes sense. I know of river boat in the Ozarks that always looking for another way to move money around.
 
ChipEnvy said:
I am genuinely interested in the conversations that you've had with your buddy, I bet he has had some INSANE stuff to tell you about if he is a Sr. VP at any casino, let alone one of the two main players on the Vegas Strip. However, this thread is a verified train wreck. I would suggest that you start a new thread and talk about that.
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Agreed. Looking forward to whatever it is that you wanted to post about in the beginning. Chips or not chips, I'm sure it's going to be interesting and fun.

Poker Zombie said:
Now someone has used an insider before. The insider was a road in, and that route could be used again - which is why I am following this thread so closely. You know a guy, and that guy has the credit to just waltz past GPI security with our order.

I for one am very hopeful, but always skeptical.
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Agreed. If you do have some contacts that you think could be leveraged, there are lots of people here who would be very eager to help you use them, assuming you were willing to try to use them. It's been done before and it could be done again. No doubt some of them will reach out to you privately to gauge your interest level and confidence level; they've got experience in working these kinds of angles and in raising money - and yes, a million dollars is not out of reach. Maybe it will come to nothing, as it has done so often; maybe it would actually work, as it has done a very few times.

But mostly we just enjoy hearing about industry insider gossip, like anybody else. :)
 
shorticus said:
If PCFers could raise a million for chips, why don’t we just open our own damn casino and get chips that way? We have lawyers in here!

I’m joking...kinda lol. @Tommy you started this shit so you’re responsible for putting this together. :ROFL: :ROFLMAO: :ROFL: :ROFLMAO: :ROFL: :ROFLMAO:
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Or just open a chip company if we can raise downstroke like that!!
 
RivieraDanny said:
Or just open a chip company if we can raise downstroke like that!!
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Again, you're new, so this is excusable.

Someone has bought a chip company before. All the machines, the materials, even training.

It failed miserably.

Unfortunately, most of the material referring to Red Ott disappeared when ChipTalk (the biggest chip collecting board before PCF) failed.

To make the story short, ASM was a successful company. The owner decided to retire, and sold the company who moved it to Vegas. He quickly learned that chip-making is an art, and the new owner (Ott) had more waste than success. People here paid thousands for chips and never got them, of got chips that were misshapen, odd colored, and on par with Chinese clay quality - but at substantial prices. The company folded.

There's a happy end to the story of course, but it involved bringing the chipmaker back out of retirement, moving the company out of Vegas, and changing the name. The point is, not everyone is even remotely capable of making a chip. It might be easier to find a quality wainwright than a quality chip maker.
 
Poker Zombie said:
Again, you're new, so this is excusable.

Someone has bought a chip company before. All the machines, the materials, even training.

It failed miserably.

Unfortunately, most of the material referring to Red Ott disappeared when ChipTalk (the biggest chip collecting board before PCF) failed.

To make the story short, ASM was a successful company. The owner decided to retire, and sold the company who moved it to Vegas. He quickly learned that chip-making is an art, and the new owner (Ott) had more waste than success. People here paid thousands for chips and never got them, of got chips that were misshapen, odd colored, and on par with Chinese clay quality - but at substantial prices. The company folded.

There's a happy end to the story of course, but it involved bringing the chipmaker back out of retirement, moving the company out of Vegas, and changing the name. The point is, not everyone is even remotely capable of making a chip. It might be easier to find a quality wainwright than a quality chip maker.
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Well, I'm glad I'm excused! So what I'm hearing is that because a guy failed at it means no on should ever do it again? Sounds right..............
Ever think he was just the wrong guy!? ‍♂️
 

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