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Is there an amount of chips and a price per chip to get them to sell us Paulson chips?

  • No. There is no $ or quantity to get them to agree

    Votes: 48 32.7%

  • Yes. But we would never pay it.

    Votes: 23 15.6%

  • Yes. And we would pay it.

    Votes: 15 10.2%

  • You could offer them $100 a chip for a million chips and they’d say no.

    Votes: 17 11.6%

  • This polls full of crap

    Votes: 54 36.7%
  • Total voters
    147
  • Poll closed .
RivieraDanny said:
thats exactly what i was thinking!!! I loose there every time. just sayin
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FordPickup92 said:
I've no interest in getting involved with this, I will say however that the people who have attempted orders from the GPI either directly or through a "facility name" and failed are the reason why they keep tabs on the forum. The failures brought their wandering lawyers here for a look see, and the failures struck their attention enough that they have changed their regulations on requirements for ordering now. They don't sell to the home market anymore, and that is that. To them we are peasants.
The folks that have been successful, were done a few years ago or prior to that, the folks that were really successful didn't sell their chips publicly, if at all.
There's things you don't know yet, about how this doesn't work. The more you try and fail the more they laugh
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Yes SCAMMERS are probably why they quit selling to the public.
 
RivieraDanny said:
First FULL DISCLOSURE:Lets leave grammar and form of writing OUT. Words are words and written form don't affect the convo.
This is the most fun I've had here in my short inexperienced, no knowledge time. I've interacted with some fine, fun people here so far and the "lay of the land" at PCF is easy to learn like any social forum. Soooo.. Lets play! Lets formalize! 1st, your basing the deal on $1M. I never said $1M I said 1M items. Seems to me, Lets just say the WTHC's, (lets just use these as the Item). Folks are paying upwards between $5 and $9 per item, yes? This changes things. or do you want to spec a set and we can use these as the reference. We must use a common reference. Used discarded inventory is a separate convo as I'm sure one could find the source of these and insert themselves into that situation pretty easily with the gumption and some effort.
That said, full disclosure, I do not work at or represent GPI in any manner, way or form. Do you? (Not that it matters if you do unless you are a major stock holder or upper management of the company and could use that for the purposes of winning this wager, that would be cheating!).... Are you merely speculating that for any amount per Item they would not produce the order for 1M pieces? Are you basing this fact on a discussion with a sales rep at the company? or even the ownership of the company? If you were you could have just shut me down quickly with that statement, as well as there being some kind of government regulation saying that the gaming company is forbidden from producing for the public which i know is not the case, or an agreement with the gaming companies that they will not produce for the public and a severe penalty if they do, again instead of name calling and baiting to "prove me wrong"you could have just shut me down with that proof. Let's move on.... As for your offer to facilitate the order with your contacts at the company or questioning if my contacts in the gaming industry I may have is moot, lets just say (as you did)that according to your challenge I need not divulge my contacts but you will assist with yours puts me at the advantage, I like that! Now if this is about egos and the whole I know more shit than you little man saga goes, I'm out for that and without proving anything with empirical evidence I don't believe that. I'm in for the sport of the challenge. Now, as for the wagers end..... This is the rub that turns this from a multi million dollar wager and a one dollar wager and could be hard to prove either way. I would say You could win the wager right now with a letter from the supplier stating simply that they will not produce the items at any price in any amount, even say a 1 million item order at $10 per item, I'll wager 100 you cannot produce that letter, unless that is you are the authorized person to pen that letter from the supplier, if you are that person instead of admonishing me for speaking out of school and calling me ignorant you could have just said, look friend, I have that letter and taught me something and I would have respected that information, but instead you lashed out and challenged my personality. Assuming you have the contacts at the supplier you should be able to produce the letter stating that "For no amount of money and in any quantity we will not produce your item". A simple no response from them does not serve as a substitute for that official letter. My end would be to produce a valid acceptance of said order from the supplier, right? This is where it gets real hard. To facilitate this I would need the commitment from enough people and the real live proof of CASH to the supplier for them to be able to accept or reject the offer to buy. It would see a very easy task reading all the comments on this thread like "We could get a 1 million item order together in 33 minutes. I would be willing to facilitate that request to the supplier. Hard proof that the request was indeed serious and more importantly there is funding for said purchase order. This is where shit gets real! I don't believe we could raise 1 million dollars much less 10 or 15 million but unless it really came to open the checkbooks and pay we would never know. Your end of the challenge of actually getting an order in and produced would hinge on exactly that. Simply put I'm willing to wager, how'd you put it, I haven't been around here long enough to know anything for sure, that you cant produce that document mentioned from the supplier. I don't believe we could raise in real life the amount of cash to legitimately offer the supplier so I wouldn't even attempt to solicit them as i believe that a corporation like them does not participate in fantasy. They participate in profit. Sooooooooo ( and I've had fun laying out the plan! ) What this has all ended up being is an exercise in personality, yours' has shown loud and clear in my estimate, you felt the need to call me ignorant and prove that somehow you're better than I am with your superior knowledge and you wanted me everyone to know it and I call you on it. i never once said I knew anything. I do know business, profit and loss and sales. I also know a bit about the gaming industry and would share it without expectation with anyone interested simply because someone was interested. if I don't know something I'm not afraid to admit that either, but one thing I will never do is insult or let someone know, that for lack of better translation, tell them "they don't know shit" just to prove I know more. The challenge is as simple as you'd like it to be, I have the will to wager the 10% of the value of the chip order with you but I would need the ability to offer and immediately place pre-payment or whatever their deposit would be if they accepted That would fall on your ability to facilitate the group fund in a trust that would either refund every dollar to the depositors to which i would get the deal done, everyone would get their crispy new items and be happy, and win My 10% share from YOUR gambling loss, which incidentally would also be required be deposited into an escrow account so I would get my win. ORRRRRRR you can accept the wager of 100 that you can't produce a letter that the supplier will not, AT ANY COST, IN ANY AMOUNT, produce an order to anyone in the non licensed casino industry. If 100's not enough I'll accept a counter offer. (The last portion null and void if your the person at the supplier responsible for the letter or an employee of the supplier or its affiliates, in which case you indeed simply name called and acted an ass doing so when you could have just said from the beginning that you know for a fact because that's who you are and not that you simply assume or know in your heart i'm wrong which is what your accusing me of, being some kind of know it all which I am far from)

Soooooooo????? Game on?
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I did not read all that but I can assure you there are no $10 per chips at GPI. That 1000 000 items = $1000 000 seems fully reasonable.
 
RivieraDanny said:
First FULL DISCLOSURE:Lets leave grammar and form of writing OUT. Words are words and written form don't affect the convo.
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I'd argue that they literally ARE the convo. I'd also wager that you lost 75% of anyone interested in this conversation just because they couldn't follow the ensuing ill-formatted and cumbersome retort.

I was initially looking forward to seeing where this thread crash landed but now I have a headache. Reading is hard.
 
Basically, GPI produces currency. It is not in GPI's favor to upset casinos by selling their product to the average joe, in the same way the manufacturer of the paper US currency is printed on is interested in selling it to the average joe.

It's not about quantity. It's not about profit margin. It's about security. Security for their customers. The same reason Master locks doesn't sell a ring with every available key on it. Someone would buy it, but it's not good for business.

The members of this site have placed orders for amounts far greater than most locals-sized casinos. They have been told directly "These chips are not for you". They did not say "That's not our order minimum."
 
I think it’s better to focus on what we can have instead of what’s not possible by any chance. Get the abbiati GB started before they’re part of GPI as well and it’s too late :p
 
Poker Zombie said:
Basically, GPI produces currency. It is not in GPI's favor to upset casinos by selling their product to the average joe, in the same way the manufacturer of the paper US currency is printed on is interested in selling it to the average joe.

It's not about quantity. It's not about profit margin. It's about security. Security for their customers. The same reason Master locks doesn't sell a ring with every available key on it. Someone would buy it, but it's not good for business.

The members of this site have placed orders for amounts far greater than most locals-sized casinos. They have been told directly "These chips are not for you". They did not say "That's not our order minimum."
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You may be missing the point!! RFID solved security.. Its more about sport! Everyone and every company has a number.
 
Poppin92 said:
I think it’s better to focus on what we can have instead of what’s not possible by any chance. Get the abbiati GB started before they’re part of GPI as well and it’s too late :p
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Yep.. focus on the obtainable!! My point in the end in case you didn't notice. just refer to @Tommy comment! WATCH OUT FOR CAVITIES!!! i liked that one!
 
RivieraDanny said:
Yep.. focus on the obtainable!! My point in the end in case you didn't notice. just refer to @Tommy comment! WATCH OUT FOR CAVITIES!!! i liked that one!
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I do think with the quality of currency that abbiati brings and aside from the chips they make plaques on the same level as B&G with true lunettes and mother of pearl, they can be definitely reached out by GPI to join them. I’ve watched their online portfolio and they are doing very well even in the US , putting high quality table cloths on the tables in well known casinos as caesars etc. I’m not gonna be surprised if abbiati will be part of them is what I’m saying.
 

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