It’s for 100/500/$1k/$5k/BTP T5000 / SB $500. The number is brought down heavily because of the number of hundos in the set. If it were just the $1k and $5k, the average would be much higher. Plus, @kk405 did me a solid for one of my relabels.
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Poppin92
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Good point. this brings me thoughts on buying the PNY chips . Are they actually worth this :
$25 / $250 rack
$100 / $450 rack
$500 / $300 barrel
I’m a new chipper but this thread brings me some sort of concerns. I personally like the look of PNY’s but the prices are stupid expensive. And I’m most certainly sure these are not the prices they where once.
Yes, you are correct, but you aren’t even considering the other side of the argument. This hobby has always operated a certain way so if you say you don’t understand the other side then you just aren’t trying. Yes, the hobby has changed now obviously, but the opposing view didn’t just appear out of thin air.
One could argue offering $30+/chip is show off and douchy. Same for offering trades. It’s just a different tactic and tool. Nothing wrong with either.
BonScot
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I’d say that the $25 can be found for less. The $100 and $500 look about right. If that scares you don’t go looking for any $1k chips
Eloe2000
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"Just because you can doesn't mean you should".
SpaceMonkey420
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Correct! Both are deff super douchy! I hated paying those prices but it was a need no one would fill. I’m not Jesus so I’m also guilty of douchyness (not perfect) but cash is still king. Prove me wrong.
Poppin92
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The 1k chips are crazy expensive , but people always want what we can’t have easy access too . 40$ a chip is just insaneI’d say that the $25 can be found for less. The $100 and $500 look about right. If that scares you don’t go looking for any $1k chips
I wasn't arguing this point lol I agree with you. I was arguing your hating on trade posts.
ekricket
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Anybody can offer ridiculous amounts for anything and get results. If it was just about Buying Stuff, then yeah, you mall grandmas got a lot of us beat.
Anybody can pay a bunch of money for a hunting trophy.
How you assemble and build a set gets my respect. Even the guy who just joined today can spend $10,000 and get a nice set. But that same guy can’t assemble some sets, no matter how much money he has. When it goes beyond money is what I’m interested in. Spending stupid money is easy and lazy, getting something you can’t buy with easy money is hard and takes work.
BonScot
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SpaceMonkey420
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it’s not showing off if I actually PayPal the cash instantly. Douchy? I think that’s highly probable. Lol I blame the sellers too. I started at $15. No bites. Went to $30 and could not keep up with the greedy messages. Next time I’ll say trade only when I sell my hsi $100p racks. Trade for mapes and dunes $1 only. Don’t need the cash so look at me look at me!
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Nanook
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I have no idea what the going rate on those is, but I can tell you this: whatever the going rate is today, it is considerably more than it was years ago. I was around when those came out and they were available in big numbers just like many of the recent TCR sales. I don't recall 100% if that one was one of Jim's or not, but it doesn't really mater. Somewhere around $1/chip or so all denominations were available in quantity. They are out there in quantity in every denomination.
I know others here will push back and say I am wrong, but it is my opinion that someone like you who is a new chipper should just forget about trying to build a set of PNY's unless money is no issue at all for you. Lots of nice chip sets out there for a lot less including a custom set through CPC which would wind up being considerably cheaper than building a set of PNY's at this point. Just buy one of each or something if you really like them. I have 1 each (I believe) in mint condition. I'm sure others do too. PM me if you want.
SpaceMonkey420
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I know your the trade master. I just suck at it. Lol every damn trade I look at is trade ONLY usually exactly what I want to buy and never exactly what I have in stock. Bump bump bump bump lol
I think you are missing the point lol
I think we all know the types of trade listings you are referring to. I still like to see trade listings personally. And if you really believe cash is king then that means that all those trade listings are actually for sale listings....
Rhodeman77
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Cash is King, until it’s not. Inflation is real.
What racks?
stavman
3 of a Kind
It's been a little tight for me the last couple of months. Finally I'm flush with racks of cash, but no chips for sale. I missed all the good shit lol
Poppin92
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Thank you for your advice , me myself having doubts paying that much for chips. Especially when I know 100% that they where once like you said 1$ a chip. It’s just not right but hey every man for himself and what he wants to do with his own money. I won’t say money isn’t a issue. It’s paying that amounts that’s holding me back having thoughts so yes money is a issue. I would like to have the PNY’s , the 25$ and $100 are expensive but affordable still. The $500 and 1k are just stupid , and funny thing is I found out that the yellow $20 and $2.5 same prices have as the $500. it’s simple principle here , the better looking the chip is , the more expensive it goes for
You are not wrong; cash is king.
However, bartering is a tale older than uniform currency. An example would be if someone is currently offering $750/rack for PCA $5s, which previously went for ~$500. Let's say, this hypothetical person did not get a bite. If I were to post a trade thread for two racks of PCA $5s for two racks of Aztar $1s (going for ~$600 as of late), I would likely see a PM and start a meaningful dialogue. Does it make more sense for me to offer $10-15/chip (cash that I may not have) for those or trade away a chip I no longer have use for, for one that I do and save the significant difference? It could result in two happy chippers getting what they want without breaking the bank. I am sure no one needs this breakdown, but I figured I would do it anyway.
While I understand what you are saying, I certainly do not see trade threads as douchy; they are simply a means of putting a different form of currency on the table to barter with, and lately, appear to get more traction in deals than above-market-value cash offers. It is basically the embodiment of...
This thread makes me laugh. “Oh, prices 10 years ago were $1/chip.” “How can we protect newbs who don’t know what these chips are worth?” “If only @Windwalker didn’t drive all the prices up.” “I can’t believe people immediately flip the chips that Jim sells.”
In the meantime, people are paying $1000s for little disks that have little if any instrinsic value. You all could just as easily use dice chips.
The market is the market. Supply and demand. And that is one aspect of PCF. It’s not terribly complicated. And plenty of “non-market” deals happen between friends privately.
In the meantime, people are paying $1000s for little disks that have little if any instrinsic value. You all could just as easily use dice chips.
The market is the market. Supply and demand. And that is one aspect of PCF. It’s not terribly complicated. And plenty of “non-market” deals happen between friends privately.
eBay seller was Arcone Ron (maybe spelling error), they were much cheaper than current prices for sure and were in the dollar range except for the $20's, and $100 and above. I remember when he was blowing out racks of Secondary $25's for $50ish/rack...I think I bought eight racks or so...
I also remember overpaying for a set of King's Crowns and then having to sell at a loss when I was getting divorced, only to see them hit stupid prices again.
This is not intended as a slight in any manner, just an opinion, but...
There are a significant number of new members with strong opinions & ideals based on reading posts, research and hearing about what things used to be like, but they are missing the 10 to 20 years experience to have the proper context for most of the things we are seeing now.
Noobs need to keep in mind that post count/frequency of posting is not indicative of knowledge or authority - there are plenty of more experienced members that don't feel the need to answer questions or post on topics that have been recycled endlessly for the last decade.
Not to mention the seemingly endless amount of "conversation" that takes place in most threads lately. IMHO - this is what is driving people away...a serious post that gets derailed by an endless stream of inside jokes and no value fluffing.
This hobby is VERY cyclical...prices will correct to a "new normal" and then drop, and then rise. It's just the nature of it.
You can get just about whatever you want as long as you are willing to pay for it, but in the case of "over paying", we ALL need to be sure that we really, really want it, because there won't always be someone willing to pay as much as we were.
Plenty of recommendations to buy CPC in place of high priced Paulson's lately too...I'd but a big old caution on this for a couple reasons. First, CPC is great, but is not as dialed in as ASM was...they are getting there, but it's taking time. Second, there is very, very little chance of being able to recover anywhere near what you pay for a CPC chip, there just isn't a large market for used customs.
TL;DR: We are all Scrub Donkeys.
BonScot
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For the PNY chips there were considerably less of the snappers, $20, $500 and $1k denominations than of the rest.
Hard to get = mo’ money*
* that’s why I’m worth a fortune
The PNY chips hit the market ~14 years ago, it’s flat out crazy to expect them to still be worth the same after all this time. Even just basic inflation would drive the prices up.
I’ve owned them a few times since joining the hobby in 2008, they are harder to find as years go by.
RichMahogany
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Exactly why I posted the meme I did earlier ITT.
These threads never go anywhere. A stunningly new, original, never thought of before opinion rarely ever gets posted and on and on it goes in circles
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Poppin92
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It makes totally sense that prices can go up, and will go up eventually. It’s what makes them more desirable to RHC lovers too , like myself. Maybe 1 rack of $25 and 1 rack of $100 and 2 barrels of $500 is doable , but more than that hell no. Might as well get custom Abbiati’s or CPC
Wait. We are suppose to make friends??! Shit!
ekricket
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But if you don’t repeat, how do you find that rare thought? You need discussion, and that’s people talking AND not always agreeing. Most discussion now is “listen to me rant, and then I’m putting you on my ignore list” to end the discussion.
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