As someone else mentioned, I think that's a product of just how much of a team game the NFL really is compared to some sports, such as basketball for example, where a single player can have a much larger impact on the game.
He's already at the tippy tippy top of my most frustrating quarterbacks to play against list. All his 2 yard swing passes that are taken to the house notwithstanding, the kid is magical at extending plays. His line and receivers are amazing at stretching out plays with him, it's horribly annoying to watch them move in concert.
Yeah Mahomes is great (and he seems to be a great overall person too
) but man that offense is stacked. KC should be in the starts of a nice little dynasty over there with all that talent everywhere.
I'm trying to give you the benefit of the doubt but you definitely have something against Tom. You never once mentioned how Tom most of his career had zero stability on offense in terms of receivers but the two years he got to throw to Moss you make a blatant point to emphasize it. No, Moss did not deserve MVP, Brady did. Moss broke the TD record because of Tom, otherwise he'd have done it every other year of his career. Also Manning had Marvin Harrison for his whole career when he played for the Colts. When he went to Denver he had Emmanuel Sanders and Demaryius Thomas in their prime. If your going to throw shade on one guy, do it to the other too. Keep your argument objective at least.
Yeah Mahomes is great (and he seems to be a great overall person too
It’s probably a HoF coach, tight end, QB, and receiver playing together. For running backs they just throw in the flavor of the week or top picks, Jamaal Charles, Shady McCoy, Kareem Hunt, Le’Veon Bell, whoever
They have stupid talent at every position of offense. Mahomes is incredible, but if people want to argue that TB12 is only good because of New England, than im just going to make the argument that Mahomes is only good because he has a stacked Oline, insane receivers, a league best TE, and a top 3 head coach.Yeah Mahomes is great (and he seems to be a great overall person too
I think if I played a whole season as the chiefs QB, we'd prob win at least one game.
I give you a win and a tie!
I just think that Manning had talented receivers. He also had Eric Decker and Wes Welker in 2013. The receiver has to run the routes and get open, ball has to be in the right area. A good QB helps make good players great, I can agree with that. But Demaryius was talented regardless. Sanders too. Im not saying these stats are possible with some third stringer.
I was just being an ass lol. Your point has some validity for sure.
He'd have to pick LeBron right? Based on being the only one in the conversation who won regardless of system, coach, 2nd and 3rd best player, team, etc.
That’s my thinking, and that’s what I’m trying to deduce. What’s the underlying line of thinking on his GOAT analysis.
No!
He can have an award for the hugest short sleeve windbreaker in the league. That must be worth something.
Is that how you decide who the best punter is too...how many championships? Best center? Best nose tackle?
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