Can a 600 set work well for 0.25/0.25 and 0.25/50 stakes? (1 Viewer)

[BGinGA]

I also recommend 600-chip cash sets with a breakdown of 100/200/200/100 (or 80/20 high denoms), along with the practice of giving a barrel of quarters to the first five buy-ins (balanced starting stacks in cash games are pointless).

That said, all of my cash sets contain 200 quarters. Moar chips, bay-bee!

 

[detroitdad]

And those last four quarters sit in a rack, never to get into play...

Also, I figured out how you always make money....

12 x 25¢ = $3
17 x $1 = $17
15 x $5 = $75
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$95 total chips for $100 buyin

If you are limiting yourself to 600 chips, you are better off getting 100x25¢ (or 120x25¢ at most). Then you can better spend your chip money on bigger denoms ($5s) and future proof your set a little bit. Your bank is so much deeper is you just trim down the quarters.

100 or 120 x 25¢
200 x $1
240 or 260 x $5
30 x $20/$25
10 x $100

That's a bank of $3k+ and with 10 players, even playing 25¢/50¢, you have 600xBB per player.

Yeah yeah, maff is hard

 

[toynoob]

Yeah yeah, maff is hard

Detroit education?

 

[WedgeRock]

Probably worth mentioning that you use up your small denoms first.

Assuming the 100/200/200/80/20 breakdown,

First 8 buyins get
12x25¢
17x$1
Nx$5

9th buyin (or first rebuy if you're playing 8-handed) gets
4x25¢
19x$1
Nx$5

10th buyin/2nd rebuy gets
20x$1
Nx$5

Use all your small denoms, then move to bigger denoms... At some point, a $100 rebuy will be 4x$25 and the table will make change.

 

[WedgeRock]

Also, if your OCD will allow split racks, and you are set on 12x25¢ for each of 10 starting stacks, you can get by with:

120x25¢
180x$1
200x$5
100x$25 or (80x$25 and 20x$100 or some other variant for that last rack).

 

[RichMahogany]

As always, depends on how your game plays.

For our local games, no way. Not enough bank, or chips IMO.

A 600 chip set should be for 6 max only IMO. Such a tiny, weenie little set for full ring. To me 80 chips per player is the minimum amount I’d want so at least 640 for an 8 player game and 800 for a 10 player game.

YMMV

And yes, even starting stacks are pointless in cash games

 

[toynoob]

As always, depends on how your game plays.

For our local games, no way. Not enough bank, or chips IMO.

A 600 chip set should be for 6 max only IMO. Such a tiny, weenie little set for full ring. To me 80 chips per player is the minimum amount I’d want so at least 640 for an 8 player game and 800 for a 10 player game.

YMMV

And yes, even starting stacks are pointless in cash games

I find this hard to believe your game plays to big for 25/50 cent games where 600 chips isn't enough. That's what op said 25/25 and 25/50. If you are playing bigger stakes mention that in your post. If you are playing those stakes and your bank needs to be bigger than that why not play $1/3 or 2/5 I'm confused? Not trying to troll believe it or not here. Just would love to know how your game is that huge. Sounds like I need to take notes

 

[MatB]

.25/.50 game.

600 is doable with a bank of $3230
If youre using 200 or 300 $5s you probably aren't getting $100 chips into play so i left those out of the equation.

120 x $0.25 $30
100 x $1 $100
300 x $5 $1500
80 x $20 $1600


Personally, i think more $5s are better

800 Chips for 1 table (9 players)

120/100/480/80/20

.25/$1/$5/$20/$100

bank of $6130


I dont love the uneven racks.... so the next logical solution is a 1000 chips set.

 

[MatB]

As always, depends on how your game plays.

For our local games, no way. Not enough bank, or chips IMO.

A 600 chip set should be for 6 max only IMO. Such a tiny, weenie little set for full ring. To me 80 chips per player is the minimum amount I’d want so at least 640 for an 8 player game and 800 for a 10 player game.

YMMV

And yes, even starting stacks are pointless in cash games

This ^

 

[RichMahogany]

I find this hard to believe your game plays to big for 25/50 cent games where 600 chips isn't enough. That's what op said 25/25 and 25/50. If you are playing bigger stakes mention that in your post. If you are playing those stakes and your bank needs to be bigger than that why not play $1/3 or 2/5 I'm confused? Not trying to troll believe it or not here. Just would love to know how your game is that huge. Sounds like I need to take notes

Lol hard to imagine? Deep stacks and action players, it’s not rocket science

We usually play bigger, but that doesn’t matter much with our rotation of players

 

[MatB]

Lay the 600 chips out in stacks evenly across 10 players.

Every player has 2 barrels of $5s.

2 barrels of $5s per player seem weak.

Are we not chippers????

 

[RichMahogany]

Lay the 600 chips out in stacks evenly across 10 players.

Every player has 2 barrels of $5s.

2 barrels of $5s per player seem weak.

Are we not chippers????

60 chips per player feels like the later stages of a home game tourney to me, not a cash game

 

[DJ_Fett]

We play the same stakes as you’re looking at, .25/.25 and .25/.50. The 100/200/200/80/20 breakdown is great for our game. I don’t think it would hurt to have 120 quarters but it’s not necessary for us.

 

[toynoob]

Lol hard to imagine? Deep stacks and action players, it’s not rocket science

We usually play bigger, but that doesn’t matter much with our rotation of players

Apparently I'm stupid then. If you have that much money on the table why use quarters?

 

[RichMahogany]

Apparently I'm stupid then. If you have that much money on the table why use quarters?

Depends on the game and host. Most of the games I attend don’t use quarters

edit: they use 0.50s and play 0.50/0.50 instead

 

[MatB]

Apparently I'm stupid then. If you have that much money on the table why use quarters?

Theres a game i play at where i think there are too many quarters on the table.
7 handed, a barrel each seems more than enough. After the initial blinds posted people use $1s and $5s.

so in theory ( if everyone ONLY called the .50 BB) a barrel could last 10 hands before anyone would ever need change.

 

[toynoob]

Depends on the game and host. Most of the games I attend don’t use quarters

This is why I mentioned the OP is looking for suggestions on a 25/50 game. If he don't get context of your game it will confused him. I mean Doyle brunson don't think 100 chips per person is enough either...

 

[RichMahogany]

This is why I mentioned the OP is looking for suggestions on a 25/50 game. If he don't get context of your game it will confused him. I mean Doyle brunson don't think 100 chips per person is enough either...

0.50/0.50 plays no different that 0.25/0.50. Even when we do/did play 0.50/0.50 a 600 chip set wouldn’t have been enough

 

[MatB]

also to the OPs question. at .25/.25 blinds your barrel of quarters would last 20 hands before change is needed.

that seems like a long time.

 

[toynoob]

0.50/0.50 plays no different that 0.25/0.50. Even when we do/did play 0.50/0.50 a 600 chip set wouldn’t have been enough

Ok you win

 

[wolfpack]

put me i the 120 camp

120x.25
200x1
200x5
80 x 20/25

 

[BGinGA]

Apparently I'm stupid then. If you have that much money on the table why use quarters?

Deep-stack poker. Really deep-stack. Plays entirely different than 100bb stack poker.

 

[FordPickup92]

Oh no, this topic again? I agree with @DrStrange, moar the merrier 300 .25 and 200 .50, although 400 .25 couldn't hurt

 

[toynoob]

Oh no, this topic again? I agree with @DrStrange, moar the merrier 300 .25 and 200 .50, although 400 .25 couldn't hurt

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Frac queen has entered the building

 

[MatB]

IS it Pot Limit or NL?

not sure it matters that much. But I see people talking about the need for more $1s and quarters,

scenario A)
Pot Limit- .25/.50 blinds 2 calls and one pot bet you're at $5 already (4.75)
One more pot sized bet and you're at $15 and thats with just 4 people acting with 5 or 6 more players to go.

Are you counting out $15 in $1s? no way.

Scenario B)
No LImit. .25/.50 blinds, Couple of calls 2.50 in the pot I look down at QQ, im betting 3 to 4x the pot.
Same thing, am i counting out $11 or $12 in $1s? no

Both scenarios the quarters are out of the mix quickly and $5 are in play. This is pre flop. Post flop is $1s, $5s , $20s

Lets GOOOOOOOO !!

Im not even playing cards and the need to raise is strong right now.

 

[JeepologyOffroad]

I wish my game played like yours Phil haha. Most buy in for 200bb starting.

I still do agree and like more chips tho in cash game so I compensate with fracs and 1s. For my .50/.50 I usually have:

.50 - 200x
1 - 300x
5 - 200 (although I have a couple sets with 4-500x if I know it’s going to be a bigger game)
20/25 - 80x
100 - 20x

Too many 1s and fracs? Yeah maybe, but moar chips moar fun

 

[Beakertwang]

Deep-stack poker. Really deep-stack. Plays entirely different than 100bb stack poker.

But if you’re playing .25/.50, double straddling to $2, and opens are $10-15, your $500 stack feels much more closer to 100bb than 1000bb.

 

[Chawks45]

Oh no, this topic again? I agree with @DrStrange, moar the merrier 300 .25 and 200 .50, although 400 .25 couldn't hurt

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I don't think I'll ever get tired of looking at this set.

 

[BirdCage]

I still prefer just handing out barrels of 25¢ chips to each player to begin. 20 x 25¢ = $5 which equals very little confusion.

A $50 starting stack is easy - barrel of quarters, barrel of ones, five fives (or one five and one twenty for moar color). Plenty of chips in play. Done.

So, 200 quarters.

 

[toynoob]

I don't think I'll ever get tired of looking at this set.

Come to the zombie meet up to put your hands on it