Yes - this, LOL.
What little respect I might have had for LeBron is now totally gone. I mean seriously, he has fans kicked out of a game….
Even John McEnroe didn’t do that. (I loved watching McEnroe though - lol)
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What little respect I might have had for LeBron is now totally gone. I mean seriously, he has fans kicked out of a game….
Even John McEnroe didn’t do that. (I loved watching McEnroe though - lol)
The way this thread has spiraled out of control...
I’d love to see LeBron play against the 80’s Pistonsi can't stand the lakers i root for the clippers out of spite but really i'm an 80s pistons fan. but thank you for settling this for me
With today's officials? He'd shoot 100 free throws that game, and entire Pistons team would be tossed for double techs.I’d love to see LeBron play against the 80’s Pistons
Yeah I’d love to see Bill Laimbeer give Lebron an elbow to the mouth. I’d pay for court side seats to see that.I’d love to see LeBron play against the 80’s Pistons
@Windwalker any news on when your HSP episode will air?
These responses are always funny to me - as if Lebron isnt bigger and wayyyy stronger than basically every player that played in the 80s. Trust that he would find a way to excel in any era.
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True, and fair point. He certainly has the physical size & strength. Does he have the mentality and toughness to play the game the way it was played it back then, against those players. If you could magically transport him back in time. as he is right now.
Lebron is one of the most (if not the most) competitive and smart player many of us have ever witnessed (I say this as a Warriors fan, not an Lebron fan boy). He would literally dominate any era. I would bet large sums of money on it lol.
Funny to me too, that’s why I enjoy posting them and reading others post with similar thoughts on today’s more coddled athletes.
I’ve never denied he’s a talented ball bouncer, he just cries way more than other talented ball bouncers IMO.
LBJ spends more time in a gym than anyone ever has in any sport from what I understand. I don't think "toughness" will be an issue fellas!
I don’t doubt his skill and work ethic. You don’t get that good without extreme dedication and work - for sure.
It’s really more of a dig on how he feels the need (and entitled, and his right) to have fans ejected b/c they were mean - lol.
How would he respond to a Laimbeer, Thomas, etc.
Not about toughness either. Just stop the crying.
Yeah I hear that. But I think everyone is just a product of their environment, given the specific time/place they are playing in. The 1980s had their own rules (or lackthereof!), so did the 90s and now, in the era of player empowerment (which was a fundamental shift in the league and sports more broadly), it is again different in the 2020s.
You guys would hate to watch soccer lol
Yes, I agree. In fairness, if LBJ had come up during that period, he likely would have still been a great player then, given his skill and dedication- for sure.
This part I disagree with. It’s my only knock on Bron, but it’s also him being a victim of his own success. Basketball is great for him, but LeBron doesn’t care as much about winning as others have in the past. His legacy is his legacy and that’s not changing on the court no matter what happens at this point. Bron is thinking past basketball right now. Honestly, he should be too. He’s nearing the end.
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You might be thinking about Ryan fee.
I don’t know if garret also made money in crypto or whether that’s what got him playing bigger than he otherwise would but he had a name in online cash before that and pre Black Friday (which is when he played online) all results were public via data mining sites. There was no confusing cashes for net profit - it showed actual profit over very statistically significant sample sizes.
I think an argument can be made for this just over the past couple of years. As you say, age (and injuries) are catching up to him. He has played manyyyy more games than MJ has in the league, against, arguably much better competition (everyone is faster and stronger these days so you have to work twice as hard to stay ahead). Having said that... I don't think this argument holds up during his prime and first ~15-16 seasons in the NBA.
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My God some of you really know how to tard up a thread lol
Anthony Martino
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How about that Krish?
I think it does hold up for his entire career. If I may cite an example in his first run in Cleveland. He first finals loss to the spurs, on twitter he says something to the extent of "I'm going to wake up and still be LeBron James, you all will wake up and go back to your miserable little lives..." That's not the mindset of a competitor imo. With that being said, I think there's an argument about different times now and then from a social media aspect.
Also, when it comes to the competition, I think the "bigger, faster, stronger" is very accurate but there's two things that I would counter with.
A.) The skill gap is not only hard to identify, but to measure the differences between 1 and 50th from multiple eras would be almost impossible. Because of that, I can't really take the "competition" argument seriously. I would only say that the level of respect, reverence, and downright fear that players attribute to playing against MJ is completely different from those you hear when discussing Bron. People definitely respect Bron, but they hold him in the same regard as they held MJ.
B.) As the NBA transitions from million dollar, to multi-million dollar, to now a billion dollar industry, the effort and research that goes into health and fitness will grow exponentially thus making the comparison of players even more difficult. Comparing Bron to Jordan physically is simply solved by saying look at the wealth of information regarding fitness and health now from that time. That doesn't make Bron "better" than MJ, it just means that his resources are more plentiful.
Lastly, I'm enjoying this debate, but I'd prefer we have it in a different thread if we want to continue. I don't want to steal the @Windwalker thunder with all that he has going on.
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BigSlick4523
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Lol go figure I am from Detroit n hate them bad boys for smashin on MJ lol but most people dont know is Celtics really started with that bully ball in the 80s n pistons had to get over the hump of the celtics beating them up then bulls had to overcome the pistons beating them up also what people dont think about MJ never had a decent team till like 89-90 n up take Isiah Thomas off them pistons insert MJ lol take Bird off them celtics insert MJ take magic johnson off the lakers insert MJ those teams would have won every title MJs teams were straight ass up until 89-90 MJ is the Goat n it's not even close IMOi can't stand the lakers i root for the clippers out of spite but really i'm an 80s pistons fan. but thank you for settling this for me
Wow, it's like 35 years later, and I can't imagine enjoying seeing Bill Laimbeer do anything. My god I hated that guy.
Anthony Martino
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Jesus, take it to another thread already
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