I’ve owned mostly leaded clay over the years so I’m really not sure if the smell I associate with Paulsons is for all Paulsons or just leaded Paulsons, but there’s definitely a smell to them, and it isn’t smoke or filth.
What is the Allure of Leaded Chips?? (2 Viewers)
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ssanel54
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It could be lead smell, but I’ve had owned thousands of those Tropicana chips and still have dozens of the original Blue chip boxes from the Tropicana, and I can assure you that they smell like smoke.
The Dunes could smell like lead, or they could smell like chips that were buried under ground for a number of years before being excavated
PCA could be lead, or the fact that they were salvaged from a flood
Not saying that you’re wrong about lead formula have a distinct smell, but all these chips have a history
Oh for sure. But 1) I do a pretty good job of cleaning off their history and 2) the Foxwoods chips smelled the same and that set was assembled from singles, collected as souvenirs and scattered all over the country.
So I’m pretty sure the smell I smell is a Paulson smell. Whether it’s the scent of lead or not, I don’t know.
ekricket
Royal Flush
I’ve never smelled smoke on mine. Not even a hint. They were in bank bags for decades, mine just smell like money.
ssanel54
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weight
Just pointing out the flawed logic here. You’re comparing a category of chips to a specific casino chip.
“Closed casino chips” as a category, however, are a commodity with effectively infinite supply.
Sure, XYZ might stand out over others to become more valuable, but that value is not innate simply because it closed — because another casino will stop making their chips tomorrow, and another next week, and so on.
During that time, leaded chips will still never be made again. Competition for “nice” or “pretty” or “sharp” or “storied” is exponentially tougher than “chips from closed casinos” because there is, and always will be, a fixed supply.
ssanel54
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Sorry, but I don’t follow your logic. It was stated that since leaded chips will never be made again, we as collectors need to factor that into their value.
I am countering that when the Hoseshoe Cleveland rebrands or closes, those chips will also never be made again, so why don’t consider that in their valuation?
You’re making the comparison of leaded chips as a category, vs closed casino chips as a category, but I’m talking about a collectible mentality of something that exists in limited quantity, that will never be produced again. Leaded chips aren’t exactly rare as a category, but certain leaded chips are highly collectible
The one thing that bothers me about sets these days is the weight variance. I can like a set of 8g chips just fine. It's the sets that have one chip that is especially light compared to the others that bothers me. Having a 9 - 10 g set and then you have one that is 11g is not a problem, so heavier chips feel ok. An example
Even Stevens
1 off white p5 navy {PR x ??} 9.46g
5 royal red p10 yellow 8.39g
25 Day Green? p12 peach 7.85g
100 black p23 sky blue 9.28g
I love these chips, but as you can see, the day green 25 is 7.85g. You can really feel that , compared to the others, sure royal red 8.39, but under 8g really feels too light .
Even Stevens
1 off white p5 navy {PR x ??} 9.46g
5 royal red p10 yellow 8.39g
25 Day Green? p12 peach 7.85g
100 black p23 sky blue 9.28g
I love these chips, but as you can see, the day green 25 is 7.85g. You can really feel that , compared to the others, sure royal red 8.39, but under 8g really feels too light .
ekricket
Royal Flush
Hoseshoe is a casino in Canada
That’s not a great example. There were like 5 million Cleveland chips. Their lower value reflects the ease in which you can buy them. There’s literally dozens of sets of them. They are like the herpes of chip collecting, they make it into almost everyone’s set lineup at some point or another.
I’m literally stating it’s flawed logic to compare an entire category of chips to a specific casino, regardless of the trait. That’s like comparing oranges to the Gala Apple in your kitchen. Yes, the Gala Apple in your kitchen is more rare than oranges. You got us.
If you weren’t aware, every single casino chip ever created is from a casino that’s either closed or will close someday. The difference is that leaded ones aren’t being made anymore. Unleaded are being released monthly.
It’s not even about the weight for me. There are plenty of super light leaded chips and heavy nonleaded. It’s all in the feel. I’m with @kmccormick100 and think I could distinguish blindfolded fairly accurately
Leaded chips have this soft almost velvety feel to them. When I was a super noob I was just in love with some solid quarters I had because of that feel and didn’t realize why that was at the time.
Sound is different too, but I’m not a sound whore either. Any clacking in chips makes me happy to hear.
That said I still will take both any day. I’ll even mix them *gasp*
Leaded chips have this soft almost velvety feel to them. When I was a super noob I was just in love with some solid quarters I had because of that feel and didn’t realize why that was at the time.
Sound is different too, but I’m not a sound whore either. Any clacking in chips makes me happy to hear.
That said I still will take both any day. I’ll even mix them *gasp*
louBdub
Full House
Just gonna walk by, slap your dick on everyone’s forehead, and bounce???It’s not even about the weight for me. There are plenty of super light leaded chips and heavy nonleaded. It’s all in the feel. I’m with @kmccormick100 and think I could distinguish blindfolded fairly accurately
Leaded chips have this soft almost velvety feel to them. When I was a super noob I was just in love with some solid quarters I had because of that feel and didn’t realize why that was at the time.
Sound is different too, but I’m not a sound whore either. Any clacking in chips makes me happy to hear.
That said I still will take both any day. I’ll even mix them *gasp*
Nah bro, I need more than that…. Gimme the link to that set, I must ogle
louBdub
Full House
You GIF’d my mind
That is a stunning set, but somebody dropped a purple turd on top.
If you want to throw jabs I have plenty saved up for you
Well bring it of course, but don’t take that one personally. This thread is about lead.
Fair enough if you say you are talking about the lead, but you’ve been flailing your arms around swinging punches in every thread you can get your hands on. So your context is impossible to judge at this point.
Either way I don’t take design criticism seriously from anyone I wouldn’t take advice from.
ekricket
Royal Flush
This doesn’t bode well… there’s crazy in the air
Sorry it took me like 20 comments to say I thought the Tigers were just a well-packaged cash grab. I have a tendency to keep hitting reply. I don’t think it’s an earthshattering opinion.
MeridianFC
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In answer to the original question, the allure is that they are not made anymore. It is true there is a special feel to the older chips due to composition, texture, molds, etc. But modern Paulsons, THC specifically, feel absolutely fine to me. Are the older chips preferable to me? Sure. But I prefer Maserati to Ferrari. Other than the obvious texturing on older Paulsons I have they, to me, are not that different than the quality current ones. I handled some late 90s hotstamps and some current ASTs last night and I don't know if I could really pick them out blindfolded. YMMV.
As far as the Paulson smell, I've encountered it in chips of every generation of issue. It's more pronounced in some than others but I've never found any rhyme or reason to that. I once asked Mike Endy what caused that aroma and he replied with the very helpful "it's a chemical they use in production". So there you have it, it is a thing and it's specifically from "a chemical they use in production"
As far as the Paulson smell, I've encountered it in chips of every generation of issue. It's more pronounced in some than others but I've never found any rhyme or reason to that. I once asked Mike Endy what caused that aroma and he replied with the very helpful "it's a chemical they use in production". So there you have it, it is a thing and it's specifically from "a chemical they use in production"
RocAFella1
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FDLmold
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I’m guessing that an ozone machine and some time would take care of the smoke smell in any poker chips.
ssanel54
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I agree, but those chips are still never being made again. As collectors, that has no relevancy on their value here.
Not necessarily. They don't make paper or
cardboard chips any longer either, but I'm pretty sure that doesn't make them desireable.
It has to be desireable to start with, before a fixed never-increasong supply starts to have an effect.
RocAFella1
Royal Flush
Ford Pintos are never being made again but they sure as hell aren’t as collectible/valuable as vintage Ferraris.
ssanel54
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We’ll put.
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