Violence on TV ? (1 Viewer)

[MatB]

I know i'm getting older and everything effects people differently, but wow, i think i'm starting to get real squeamish with the graphic violence on tv.

I loved watching horror movies as a kid, scarier the better. Even some horror movies now i like, not my go-to genre but i'll watch it.
But..... the violence in drama tv shows and movies that aren't considered horror but just violent are really starting to make my stomach turn. And not in a good way.
The non zombie violence with todays technology and special effects, is so real that i sometimes feel theres almost no line between a fictional killing in a movie and a real snuff movie. I'm really not liking that.

And whats strange is, i enjoy a good battle scene, like in GOT. or an action 'shoot-em-up" Also really enjoying "into the Badlands" right now. Chop their head of in a kung fu fight? GREAT ! love it.
Seems i have a hard time with the subtle, non cartoonish violence.

I'm typing this now as i decided to start watching "The Leftovers" no work today so bingeing. Into episode 5 of season 1 and theres a very graphic scene at the beginning of the episode, similar stomach churning as the "Glen" scene in Walking Dead.

Anyway, i feel like that was an "old man rant" i just had thanks for listening.

 

[pltrgyst]

"What's all this fuss about violins on TV?" -- Roseann Roseannadana.

 

[detroitdad]

I don't mind. I like a good violent scene. Hell, sometimes gratuitous violence is the way to go Hmmm, maybe that says something about me. Oh well.

It took me about 3 or 4 episodes of S1 of the Leftovers before I could get into it. I'm caught up on S3 minus SUN's episode. I think its one of the most creative, best things on tv right now. @jbutler , you caught up on S3 yet?

 

[Anthony Martino]

Never bothered me much. Hell, I got my wife into the Evil Dead movies and she loves watching the over-the-top carnage in Ash Vs Evil Dead on Starz.

As far as the Leftovers goes, I enjoyed Season 1 but didn't get far into Season 2 before it turned of me off from it (not the violence, just the storyline) /threadjack

 

[jbutler]

It took me about 3 or 4 episodes of S1 of the Leftovers before I could get into it. I'm caught up on S3 minus SUN's episode. I think its one of the most creative, best things on tv right now. @jbutler , you caught up on S3 yet?

Yeah digging it very much. Very tough call for me on Leftovers vs. Better Call Saul for best current show.

Re: violence, don't care. Literally identical to any other element of plot or production design in my mind. Sometimes it's a good choice and sometimes it's a bad choice.

 

[MatB]

Never bothered me much. Hell, I got my wife into the Evil Dead movies and she loves watching the over-the-top carnage in Ash Vs Evil Dead on Starz.

As far as the Leftovers goes, I enjoyed Season 1 but didn't get far into Season 2 before it turned of me off from it (not the violence, just the storyline) /threadjack

Zombie violence, cartoonish fight scenes, gore, all fine by be. Even enjoy. The dark, highly graphic, a little too real violent scenes are whats getting to me.
Like i said, for me its a fine line between that and watching a real murder.

Could you guys watch the beheading of the journalist guy a few years ago?

 

[MatB]

I am enjoying "leftovers" and agree its pretty creative and i have no idea where its going. And i consider myself an brilliant speculator of tv and movies.

 

[detroitdad]

Could you guys watch the beheading of the journalist guy a few years ago?

Nope. It's two completely different things between watching a real murder and a tv murder no matter how realistic it is.

 

[pltrgyst]

....Could you guys watch the beheading of the journalist guy a few years ago?

I spent 26 months in the central highlands of Viet Nam long, long ago. Nothing I've seen since could bother me. You either become hardened, or you go crazy.

 

[jbutler]

I was googling for the source of the famous Jean-Luc Godard quote, "It's not blood; it's red" (in response to a question about the violence in his movie Pierrot le Fou) and I came upon this clip which is called "Not Blood, Red" (about Tarantino's use of violence) and has a very, very brief spoken intro from Bret Easton Ellis who is characteristically articulate and uncharacteristically plain-spoken in his defense of violence in movies.

The video is about Tarantino's use of violence in movies and I'll have to come back to it later when I can focus on it, but for the moment, watch for just the first 30 seconds for the Bret Easton Ellis bit.

To my way of thinking that intro is exactly right. People are too hung up on the idea that there is a moral message inherent in every piece of art and are mostly incapable of understanding that just because a writer scripts something doesn't mean he advocates or condones it.

EDIT: While we're on Tarantino and violence, this is still one of my all time favorite clips and at 4 minutes it has to be one of the best returns on investment of any television interview.

 

[Kensco]

This:

Nope. It's two completely different things between watching a real murder and a tv murder no matter how realistic it is.

No matter how realistic it appears, it's not real.

 

[Poker Zombie]

You would be foolish to say that is doesn't desensitize you. However, there is a vast difference between desensitization, acceptance, and actually committing a violent act seen in a movie.

I work in a job where I routinely see people in their worst (and often last) day. After a while, you simply build a barrier between it and your "real life". But Firefighters that cannot stand to see a good ass-kicking movie - they aren't long for the job.

That is not to say that there aren't some seriously deranged people out there that shouldn't be allowed to see such movies.

 

[PhilLaFond]

I spent 26 months in the central highlands of Viet Nam long, long ago. Nothing I've seen since could bother me. You either become hardened, or you go crazy.

Thank you sir.