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[seyff45]

IMO 200 $5 chips should be more than enough for a .25/.50 game, but the question then becomes do you ever see yourself outgrowing that game and moving to $1/$2 or $1/$3.

My game started at your level and is now playing $1/3.

As a rule, we see 300 red chips as the minimum for $1/3 although 400 is ideal.

Some folks on here want WAAAAAY more than 300 reds for a $1/3 game, but that's just personal preference.

 

[Labrat]

TBH, the game is about the group, not making money, so I don't see it growing any time soon.

 

[shorticus]

the question then becomes do you ever see yourself outgrowing that game and moving to $1/$2 or $1/$3.

This^

In my experience the generic setup allows for you to move your game up in stakes, and also with that flexibility, sets are easier to sell. Different people will play different stakes so it’s easier to sell a full set that can play across multiple stakes. If you like acquiring new sets and playing different chips, building generic sets (100/200/200/80/20) is very helpful in doing that. However, if you’re just going to be okay playing one set forever (hint: it’s unlikely if you stay on this site long enough) then it’s not as big a deal.

One other minor thing. If you ever want to even consider bringing a guest set to a meetup, you will need a much larger bank that you will ever anticipate lol.

 

[KHarp1]

There are a lot of players, at least around here, that don't like the idea of a 1-2 (non-casino) game, but, will jump at the chance to play in a .25-.25 .25-.50 game and open for 3 at a minimum, sometimes 7-10. They basically end up playing a 1-3 or 2-5 game, but, don't want to be forced to pay more than a quarter to see their cards. Whatever, as long as the money gets in.

 

[Beakertwang]

We play .25/.50 but it plays fairly big. It’s not uncommon to have $2000 in play.

My current setup is:
25¢ x 140
$1 x 360
$5 x 300
$25 x 40

I usually get 80-100 quarters on the table, then use up the $1’s and $5’s. I try to get a few $25’s in play late, just because they’re my favorite chip in the set.

Because of how big the game plays (really, it’s similar to a 1/1 game), the $5 tends to be the workhorse. I could get by with 200, but 300 works really well. I often leave some $1’s in the case, because much more than 200 seems cumbersome at the end of the night.

 

[allforcharity]

Well, you don't have to finish the bottle of wine, either.

Yes, yes you do

 

[Eriks]

This is no place for logic sir.

You could say that again. I don’t know why I keep engaging in the fives discussion, obv I don’t really care how many chips other people like to put on their table. Do what you prefer of course.

I guess I just can’t stay away because I find it so weird and contradictory that there are people that will put 800 fives on the their table while at the same time making damn sure to restrict the number of fracs to a rack, because any more of those would suddenly make it messy and inefficient.

I really don’t understand the beauty of the two fisted bets I guess. Also in my experience a lot of players do not keep their chips in neat stacks of twenty to allow for a relatively simple estimate. I also have a hard time buying the argument that lots of smaller denominated chips lead to looser play. Are people really that stupid?

 

[Taghkanic]

You could say that again. I don’t know why I keep engaging in the fives discussion, obv I don’t really care how many chips other people like to put on their table. Do what you prefer of course.

I guess I just can’t stay away because I find it so weird and contradictory that there are people that will put 800 fives on the their table while at the same time making damn sure to restrict the number of fracs to a rack, because any more of those would suddenly make it messy and inefficient.

I really don’t understand the beauty of the two fisted bets I guess. Also in my experience a lot of players do not keep their chips in neat stacks of twenty to allow for a relatively simple estimate. I also have a hard time buying the argument that lots of smaller denominated chips lead to looser play. Are people really that stupid?

Everyone in the games I regularly play in stacks their chips in barrels of 20. And these are not chippers or not particularly sharp players. Anyone who has played for more than a year or two does this, in my experience.

Occasionally you’ll encounter Giant Tower Guy, who feels the need to stack his chips to the ceiling in his own personal Jenga game.

And then there is sometimes Mr. Stacks of Ten, keeping all of his chips below rail level.

But these are outliers. If people are keeping dirty random or unstacked piles of chips in front of them, the host or dealer should encourage them to neaten up.

Anyway, I don’t see more than a few of hoarder/whales here with sets that include more than 400-500 of more than one denom. At least not that have to keep the entire set within reach of the table (as opposed to extra racks in a cabinet or vault).

 

[Eriks]

Everyone in the games I regularly play in stacks their chips in barrels of 20.

Congrats

 

[MatB]

.25/.50 also can have a broader appeal.
8 circus players can have a range of comfort levels.

Want to nit it up? Great. Buy in for $100 and fold

Want to go deep stack? Great. Straddle to $32


Capping the buy in at $100 will almost guarantee a flip fest.

 

[Taghkanic]

Congrats

How are people keeping their chips? Random sized stacks, messy Smaug piles…

Problem is solved by the host showing everyone how it’s done and asking that chips be stacked so others can see what they have.

 

[detroitdad]

Capping the buy in at $100 will almost guarantee a flip fest.

Depends on the group.

 

[Eriks]

How are people keeping their chips? Random sized stacks, messy Smaug piles…

Yes, I’ve seen it all.

 

[MatB]

Depends on the group.

Very true.
But for me..
If most stacks have $500 to $1200 and the cap is $100 and im stuck $500. I have to get back to fold equity

Im going to be trying to double and triple up ASAP.

Shit. I’ve already divulged too much of my strategy

 

[allforcharity]

Very true.
But for me..
If most stacks have $500 to $1200 and the cap is $100 and im stuck $500. I have to get back to fold equity

Im going to be trying to double and triple up ASAP.

Shit. I’ve already divulged too much of my strategy

As they quoted in Molly's Game, "I just want to get to even" should be the epitaph on every tombstone of every gambler.

 

[NotRealNameNoSir]

I also have a hard time buying the argument that lots of smaller denominated chips lead to looser play. Are people really that stupid?

This is just a fact that has happened at every game I've ever played at, albeit I've never played at a game 100% full of competent players. Home games or casinos you'll have people jealously guarding their $25s while splashing around with $30, $40, $50 bets in $5s. They have towers, why not call a few more bets?

Not saying its strategically correct but I love abusing that if the players really suck. They have pretty towers, Ill make sure to bet enough so that they dont have to break a tower if I want a call. Sense of completeness lol, they like round things.

 

[DuckFat]

IMO chips smaller than $1 are useless. I agree that most here don't seem to be playing at the microstakes their sets are made for. If anyone is truly playing stakes that need smaller chips they can get a NCV chip which can be flexed to any amount. If you love fracs well TEHO, it just doesn't work for me.

One way to think about it is how much do you think each person should have or will use. If you have 200 $5's then that's only $100 per person on a full table. Is that enough to survive the night? Some here will say that it can be covered with higher denoms like $25 or $100, which is correct but how often will change need to be made. If there is constant change, how much will that slow down the game?

This is just a fact that has happened at every game I've ever played at, albeit I've never played at a game 100% full of competent players. Home games or casinos you'll have people jealously guarding their $25s while splashing around with $30, $40, $50 bets in $5s. They have towers, why not call a few more bets?

This is a psychological aspect of chips. The first thing chips do is devalue money, sure you know the value a chip represents but it's much easier to put a black chip into play than a $100 bill. Also way easier to pull a purple or yellow out of your pocket to break than it is to count out several $100 bills. When someone has towers of chips, it's easier to put in a few of them because the perception is you have a lot of them.

 

[DZPoker]

Very true.
But for me..
If most stacks have $500 to $1200 and the cap is $100 and im stuck $500.

I think some people’s point (which I personally agree with) is that a .25/.25 game shouldn’t have ANYONE with stacks $500 to $1200, let alone a whole table!

If multiple people are up 4000+ BBs, you’re not really playing .25/.25…you’re just playing 1/2 or even 2/5 with no blinds…my guess is because you want to let your gorgeous fracs see felt!

 

[Nine_high]

.50/.50, 100max dealers choice. Usually 6-8 handed. Almost always get north of $2k in play, as long as a couple key regular degens are there (with me being one of them )

These days I end up putting 60 fiddies, 200 ones, and ~240 fives out then move to the twenties. Occasionally I'll put a black chip or two even though I have some twenties left because yolo

Edit to add: the five is definitely the workhorse. The one is usually almost done once post flop.

 

[Tonysquander]

2 racks of $5s are more than enough

 

[MatB]

ok, hypothetically., 8 players have bought in for $100 in a .25/.50 game everyone sees the flop.

they get all in, One player scoops.
he now has a stack of $800. in one hand.
next hand 4 players get it all in and one player scoops. they now have $400 (800 bbs)

my point is it doesn't take much to get to to 4k bbs, in a .25/.50 game.

And as pointed out by others, table dynamic is important too.

personally I'd question the skill level of the players if I'm sitting at a table and a player raises to $2 and EVERYONE folds pre flop. Ok that's a little harsh. but I never understand why you want more than 3 people seeing a flop.

 

[BigJackJones]

I can no longer discuss or even think about 5's without thinking about this post.

https://www.pokerchipforum.com/threads/largest-park-place-abbiati-cash-set.111659/

 

[doublebooyah85]

BECAUSE BOOYAH!

2 racks of $5 @Tonysquander ?!?!?

MuhahahahaBooyah

$1-$1 PLO max $500 buy in. Host is in his 70s and ran limit games his entire life. So when everything transitioned to NL/PL early 2000 he since has had 20+ racks of $5s and the players love it when we get them on the felt.

 

[NotRealNameNoSir]

BECAUSE BOOYAH!

2 racks of $5 @Tonysquander ?!?!?

MuhahahahaBooyah

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Well done!! Does every stack look like yours or are you just taking everyone else's?

 

[doublebooyah85]

Well done!! Does every stack look like yours or are you just taking everyone else's?

Ran hot. Max buy in was $500.

 

[Santa123]

BECAUSE BOOYAH!

2 racks of $5 @Tonysquander ?!?!?

MuhahahahaBooyah

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$1-$1 PLO max $500 buy in. Host is in his 70s and ran limit games his entire life. So when everything transitioned to NL/PL early 2000 he since has had 20+ racks of $5s and the players love it when we get them on the felt.

Not an other $5 hoard thread.

 

[doublebooyah85]

Not an other $5 hoard thread.

 

[Tonysquander]

BECAUSE BOOYAH!

2 racks of $5 @Tonysquander ?!?!?

MuhahahahaBooyah

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$1-$1 PLO max $500 buy in. Host is in his 70s and ran limit games his entire life. So when everything transitioned to NL/PL early 2000 he since has had 20+ racks of $5s and the players love it when we get them on the felt.

Barrel + 5 of $100s or 5 $500s would look better than that nonsense taking up valuable felt estate and getting in everyones way

 

[doublebooyah85]

Barrel + 5 of $100s or 5 $500s would look better than that nonsense taking up valuable felt estate and getting in everyones way

I’m in no one’s way. Big table. Big head too!

Plenty of room for 4 cards, hell lets play 5 card plo!

 

[allforcharity]

I’m in no one’s way. Big table. Big head too!

Plenty of room for 4 cards, hell lets play 5 card plo!

The GWOC (Great Wall of Chips)!