Cash Game Sanity Check - 40 Cent Chip (1 Viewer)

[fLrN]

Hi all,

after years of not playing poker at all and with life happening, my friends and I decided around christmas to introduce a monthly cash game.
We really enjoy being together at least this one time each month and having something each one of us has more or less the same interest in.

Right now, we are playing 6-handed 0.05€/0.10€ NLHE (20€ Buy-In) with some Majestic China Clays I purchased just to avoid playing with 15+ year old Dice Chips.
The long term goal is to create a custom set, but that's nowhere near close to happening soon.

What about the 40 Cent Chip now?
Ever since we're playing card games, every time someone has to pay 40 of something, we call it "Pfirsich" since it sounds similar to "Vierzig".
This has been almost a tradition for at least 15 years in our group of friends and I sometimes use it in daily life aswell.

The last time we played, we raised and bet 40 so much that the idea came to my mind, that it would be a neat idea to have a dedicated 40 Cent chip once we are playing with custom chips (looking at you, DG Peach).

So my question is: Is something like this even remotely possible or completely dumb?
And how do I incrementally implement this before buying custom chips?

The idea was to first switch to 0.10€/0.10€ so we don't need the 5 Cent chips anymore and are able to switch to 10 Cent chips in the custom set.
After adjusting to the new blinds for a couple of sessions, I would introduce a temporary 40 Cent chip to get them used to it.

Is this a good approach to not overwhelm them with every change at once?

My ideas regarding the final chip distribution are the following:
16x 0.10€ / 16x 0.40€ / 12x 1.00€

Is it possible to play like this?

With this distribution 100 of each 0.10€ and 0.40€ would be enough, filling it up with 1.00€ and 5.00€ chips, maybe some 20.00€ chips if we ever raise the stackes.
In the end, 400 chips should be absolutley enough or am I completely wrong?

Regards
Flo

 

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There is no dumb ideals only dumb people, and a .40 chip is a bad ideal! Also German people have no since of humor. That is all.

If that didn't come across as funny I'm going to blame it on having just woke up at 5 am, of which I haven't done in a few decades. Also inside jokes and having fun isn't a bad ideal, I wouldn't buy more than a rack of .40 and its likely you'll never sell them anyway.

Okay this is going to be a risky ideal, but who knows you may just like it.

Chip Values should be 4 to 5 times the previous chips, and I have 2.5 ideals for you.

First Ideal, you could go with a chip break down of .10, .50, $2, $10, $50, which seems more popular for those countries 'across the pond', you could then also buy .40 chip and integrate it as you wish. This would be the least amount of disruption in your set, and I think it would play well.

Second idea, you go with a .05, .25, $1, $5, $20 and add .40 or you can add a non denominated chip and declare its value. This lets you use the chip later on as needed for any value.

 

[drdr]

Second idea, you go with a .05, .25, $1, $5, $20 and add .40 or you can add a non denominated chip and declare its value. This lets you use the chip later on as needed for any value.

The most sensible option, in my opinion. Future proof your set if you change your game or stakes. And if the .40 thing doesn't work out, you can use that non-denominated chip for so many other purposes.

 

[fLrN]

Thanks for your input!

Reselling shouldn't be the main criteria in making a custom set, but I get the point with the non-denominated chip. That idea is great and was also on my mind as well.

Giving each player not more than 3 of these chips is also kind of a fun idea, so everyone wants to hunt down the precious peaches.
But I have the feeling that either a .25 or a .50 will be redundant and won't see that much play in the end. So I really don't want to put that much money on the table for unused or unliked chips.

But I will go as I said in the opening post and first switch the game to 0.10/0.10 and after a while introducing the 0.40 chip. Maybe time will tell that this idea is stupid

 

[chippitydoodah]

I love the fact that you're afraid to overwhelm your players...this means you've wisely gathered a group of fish to regularly take their money.

 

[BGinGA]

Just go with custom denominations of .10€, .40€, 2.00€, and 10.00€ chips using this breakdown:

80 x .10€
200 x .40€
100 x 2.00€
20 x 10.00€

Those 400 chips should be plenty for six players. (total bank of 488€, or 81€ per player)

And embrace the .40€ chip -- if going with a unique and meaningful denomination for your group's custom set, make it really special and put a bunch into play.

 

[upNdown]

It’s a fun idea. I once created a $1.75 chip because that was a common bet in my .25/.50 game. I never actually got them into play before I sold them (weird, I know - the game broke up for a while.). But I only had a barrel made - my plan was always for them to be a novelty. Not sure if it’s best to give everybody a few or give a bunch to one guy and see how they distribute themselves or what.

But the bottom line is that although it’s a great idea in the larger context of ridiculous ideas, it’s a bad idea game-wise. Having extra denominations on the table is a big pain in the butt in a no-limit game, where stacks have to be counted frequently. And having a chip in play that doesn’t work with most people’s intuitive math isn’t worth its annoyance factor.

 

[Mandos]

every time someone has to pay 40 of something, we call it "Pfirsich" since it sounds similar to "Vierzig".

I personally think this is hilarious, even better if you can get it on a peach chip and bring it full circle.

If i did it, I would go the route that BGinGA suggested with .10/.40/2/10.
Unless you have a bunch of casino regulars they should get used to it pretty fast.

 

[Nine_high]

I like the idea.

Going .10/.40/2/10 as suggested would work great if you're ok skipping the 1.

If I were to do it, I'd build a regular set and just add a few of the .40s in for color. That way you can have fun with it when you're with that group but you don't need to use the .40 to use the set.

I also like a .10/.50/1/5 progression for .10/.10. You don't need very many .50 chips. You could split a rack of .40/.50 (maybe 40/60 or 50/50) and the set is perfectly usable with or without the .40 chip. You're probably looking at buying 500 pc though since you're buying five colors in which case I'd beef up on singles and maybe more fives if you think you'll use it for anything higher stakes like you said.

ND chip solves this too and can serve as a 20 when you're not using it as a .40, but it lacks the fun factor of having a dedicated .40 chip IMO.

 

[joeyshin]

I have 70cent keno chips. Not sure what they were used for but I thought they were interesting

 

[fLrN]

I love the fact that you're afraid to overwhelm your players...this means you've wisely gathered a group of fish to regularly take their money.

We are just a bunch of fish enjoying the game and the time together. The group gathered waaay before we knew poker existed

It’s a fun idea. I once created a $1.75 chip because that was a common bet in my .25/.50 game. I never actually got them into play before I sold them (weird, I know - the game broke up for a while.). But I only had a barrel made - my plan was always for them to be a novelty. Not sure if it’s best to give everybody a few or give a bunch to one guy and see how they distribute themselves or what.

But the bottom line is that although it’s a great idea in the larger context of ridiculous ideas, it’s a bad idea game-wise. Having extra denominations on the table is a big pain in the butt in a no-limit game, where stacks have to be counted frequently. And having a chip in play that doesn’t work with most people’s intuitive math isn’t worth its annoyance factor.

To be honest, we don't count stacks to frequently. And right now, we play with a 0.25 chip that's also not intuitive for Europeans

I personally think this is hilarious, even better if you can get it on a peach chip and bring it full circle.

If i did it, I would go the route that BGinGA suggested with .10/.40/2/10.
Unless you have a bunch of casino regulars they should get used to it pretty fast.

Full circle is the long-term plan. Maybe the non-denominated way with just a peach where the other chips have their value.

 

[Machine]

we play with a 0.25 chip that's also not intuitive for Europeans

So I don’t really get this, here in the US we don’t have 25 dollar bills, but sure as shit we don’t have an issue with a $25 chip.

I mean come on a 2 cent coin? The f? But a .25 coin is nuts? The great modern minds can finally standardize currency in 2002 but can’t conceive of a 1/4 coin?

Ranting at the leaders not at you, it’s crazy!

 

[upNdown]

I have 70cent keno chips. Not sure what they were used for

 

[chippitydoodah]

So I don’t really get this, here in the US we don’t have 25 dollar bills, but sure as shit we don’t have an issue with a $25 chip.

I mean come on a 2 cent coin? The f? But a .25 coin is nuts? The great modern minds can finally standardize currency in 2002 but can’t conceive of a 1/4 coin?

Ranting at the leaders not at you, it’s crazy!

Aat least the $2 Bill & $2 chip are equally useless

 

[ThrowBack]

Do it

 

[OKYJJ]

10c / 40c / 2 / 10 is a sensible progression if you really want to commit to the .40 and make it a workhorse. Stacks of 5 make 2 Euro, not bad.

You could buy a different set later on which has 50c, 1E, 5E, 20E for more standard denominations, and let the same 10c dimes do double duty in both sets.

[Sorry, I don't have a Euro key and didn't want to use $ so I just used E.]

 

[TheRealStephen12]

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Lisbon or Madrid?

 

[Dingdingding]

I can confirm that lots of German chippers play with 10c/50c/2E/10E breakdown when making customs and it plays very well.

You can switch out the 50c to 40c easily and without any damage. But if you should really plan to use 1 Euro chips, i would advise you to not follow the Pfirsich route. Because it sucks if you can't make change between those denoms as easily.

 

[BiGGyT]

I have a $0.20 chip, so why not.

 

[FearlessFred]

I can confirm that lots of German chippers play with 10c/50c/2E/10E breakdown when making customs and it plays very well.

You can switch out the 50c to 40c easily and without any damage. But if you should really plan to use 1 Euro chips, i would advise you to not follow the Pfirsich route. Because it sucks if you can't make change between those denoms as easily.

I'm hotly awaiting my 10p/50p/£2 set so I'm glad to hear it plays well