Tourney Realistic use for a T100K chip in a T25 set? (1 Viewer)

[navels]

Can you really use the T100K chip in a T25+ structure, or is it just for T1K+ high-denom tournaments?

 

[crussader]

You would need at least twenty tables starting a T25 based structure to even get one T100k chip in play.

If you start with 25/50 blinds and a deep stack of 200bb, that's 10k in chips per player. So the total chips in play is only 100K per table.

 

[ChaosRock]

There could be depending on the number of players, how deep is the starting stack and how many chips you want in play at the end.

One quick example: 30 players, starting stacks of 20K for 200 BB (blinds start at 50/100 to avoid the 100% increase to level 2). Total in play assuming no re-buys, 600K. Once blinds get around 10K/20K (close to the end of the tourney) the 5Ks are used only for blinds for the most part. So one can either have T25Ks in play of a bunch of 5Ks. I personaly prefer T25Ks so moving stacks around is not cumbersome. In my home tourneys, I usually end up with T10K chips only (I use T2K and usually have 2 tables).

** My apologies! My argument above is for a T25K and and NOT for a a T100K. My bad.

 

[BGinGA]

You need a ~lot~ of chips in play to justify breaking out a T100k chip in an event that starts with T25 chips. Generally speaking, at least 600,000 starting chips (so 20 players @T30K stacks or 30 players at @T20K, or equivalent) at a bare minimum, and it's very far from being required or optimal.

20 players at T20K will typically end by the 10000/20000 blind level, but only 400,000 chips are in play -- so at most, a single T100K might be useful but risks negatively affecting playability. Having four T25K chips in play vs that single T100K is certainly preferred.

For 30 players at T30K (600bb), you might see a 30000/60000 blind level, so a couple of T100K chips in play (out of 900,000) could be used, but still much more beneficial to use 8 x T25K chips instead.
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Realistically, you'd want well over a million chips (two million even better) in play before breaking out ~any~ T100Ks. That's four tables of T25K stacks (500bb), or ten tables of T10K stacks (200bb). With no re-buys, typically chip breakdown at tournament end (30k/60k blinds) would be 140 x T5000 and 12 x T25000 (or fewer T5000s and more T25Ks), Replacing some of those T5000s with a couple of T100K chips would leave something like 100 x T5000, 12 x T25000, and 2 x T100000. But I still think it's less than ideal.

With two million chips in play, the blinds get high enough so that T5000 chips are no longer needed, but even then, if you colored them all up with 16 x T100K chips, you'd only have 32 total chips on the table (16 x T25K plus 16 x T100k). Gonna need a lot more T25K chips in play than that, so you're still looking at just a small handful of T100k chips.


Personally, I only plan on using T100K chips (except for the occasional novelty appearance) when stack sizes are T200K and larger using a base-T500 set with a sufficient number of players (20 or more). That's about when a barrel of T100K chips actually becomes useful.