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[Cathy]

Help me clarify if they are the real thing or just for play. Getting to many opinions but no one is for sure.

 

[joepro]

Welcome to the forum. Those look like they are from an actual casino, but I can't make out the name. They are plastic chips most likely used for tournaments, so the 5000 would only represent the chips in play for the tournament and the chips would never be redeemed for cash at the casino. The gold print is called an over stamp, which is intended to further deter someone from trying to redeem the chip. Unfortunately these are cheap plastic and not worth much.

 

[Trihonda]

Ya, the hotstamped design over the top is common when casinos “cancel” their chips. Similar to how a casino sells old decks of cards but chops off a corner to mark it as canceled.

Unless these are from some rare casino and are highly collectible (which I doubt, but who knows), I say these aren’t worth much.

Also agree that the T5000 chip is a tourney chip.

 

[pltrgyst]

Those look like they are from an actual casino, but I can't make out the name.

Broadway Card Room.

 

[upNdown]

It's an interesting mystery to me. They appear to be pretty crappy quality chips. I mean there are decent plastic chips and there are crappy ones, and these look like crappy ones. And I believe they were made for a real casino, but since they were no cash value tournament chips, why did anybody bother cancelling them? and who cancelled them? I've always assumed that the starburst was owned by paulson/gpi. So if I had to guess, I'd guess that GPI manufactured these chips, then this place didn't pay for their order, so they cancelled them to sell them to the public. Which would indicate to me, at a minimum, that these aren't the crappiest of crappy chips.
I'm just thinking out loud here; hopefully somebody who knows better can share their thoughts. Not that it probably matters much to Cathy, but I'm curious.

 

[mike32]

They are Bud Jones suits mold chips. Decent quality I suppose and I don’t think they have a metal slug inside. Value would be in the 20 to 30 cent each range maybe the low end with overstamp imo.

 

[ChipEnvy]

How many chips? If not too many I’d wager they were floor sweepers.

 

[joepro]

How many chips? If not too many I’d wager they were floor sweepers.

Never heard of this, can you please elaborate? I'm guessing some type of samples or test chips from GPI?

 

[allforcharity]

Edit: Ignore me.

 

[ChipEnvy]

Never heard of this, can you please elaborate? I'm guessing some type of samples or test chips from GPI?

Exactly. Test chips. Once they test the original stamping they overstamp them to make sure they are not put into circulation.

They often ended up on the floor and were swept up at the end of the day with the rest of the mess. Hence the name.

 

[Cathy]

Welcome to the forum. Those look like they are from an actual casino, but I can't make out the name. They are plastic chips most likely used for tournaments, so the 5000 would only represent the chips in play for the tournament and the chips would never be redeemed for cash at the casino. The gold print is called an over stamp, which is intended to further deter someone from trying to redeem the chip. Unfortunately these are cheap plastic and not worth much.

Ok, but they are not plastic. They are clay inside outside plastic. I took one apart. I know plastic from clay. Clay crumbles plastic dont

It's an interesting mystery to me. They appear to be pretty crappy quality chips. I mean there are decent plastic chips and there are crappy ones, and these look like crappy ones. And I believe they were made for a real casino, but since they were no cash value tournament chips, why did anybody bother cancelling them? and who cancelled them? I've always assumed that the starburst was owned by paulson/gpi. So if I had to guess, I'd guess that GPI manufactured these chips, then this place didn't pay for their order, so they cancelled them to sell them to the public. Which would indicate to me, at a minimum, that these aren't the crappiest of crappy chips.
I'm just thinking out loud here; hopefully somebody who knows better can share their thoughts. Not that it probably matters much to Cathy, but I'm curious.

Hahahahaha I guess that's why I'm on here ,because it dont matter to me one bit.

How many chips? If not too many I’d wager they were floor sweepers.

I'm not gonna feed tha casino chip junkie anymore chips to his little intelligent of knowing real from fake. But I will say it's a whole set. And they are beautiful. And guess I'll be laughing all the way to the bank once they get checked by a real casino educated person . If not I got something rare and amazing that no one else has. And I believe my uncles were into some wrong doing in there time I assume to have acquired a whole set of rare casino chips. That are clay. I can send a lot more even the one I took apart

I'm not gonna feed tha casino chip junkie anymore chips to his little intelligent of knowing real from fake. But I will say it's a whole set. And they are beautiful. And guess I'll be laughing all the way to the bank once they get checked by a real casino educated person . If not I got something rare and amazing that no one else has. And I believe my uncles were into some wrong doing in there time I assume to have acquired a whole set of rare casino chips. That are clay. I can send a lot more even the one I took apart

Got 200000

Welcome to the forum. Those look like they are from an actual casino, but I can't make out the name. They are plastic chips most likely used for tournaments, so the 5000 would only represent the chips in play for the tournament and the chips would never be redeemed for cash at the casino. The gold print is called an over stamp, which is intended to further deter someone from trying to redeem the chip. Unfortunately these are cheap plastic and not worth much.

One to. Think more like high rollers. Not plastic. Clay

Exactly. Test chips. Once they test the original stamping they overstamp them to make sure they are not put into circulation.

They often ended up on the floor and were swept up at the end of the day with the rest of the mess. Hence the name.

Not swept and the set has the cards of the table with them . Have to look for them original casino cards

 

[BGinGA]

Ok, but they are not plastic. They are clay inside outside plastic. I took one apart. I know plastic from clay. Clay crumbles plastic dont

Sorry, but those chips are injection-molded plastic -- the injection point circles are clearly visible in the photos, and the dotted-line inner circle is a dead giveaway (clay chips cannot be made that way).

Aged plastic can indeed crumble.

 

[Cathy]

Got 200000

One to. Think more like high rollers. Not plastic. Clay

Hahahahaha I guess that's why I'm on here ,because it dont matter to me one bit.

Never heard of this, can you please elaborate? I'm guessing some type of samples or test chips from GPI?

Sorry, but those chips are injection-molded plastic -- the injection point circles are clearly visible in the photos, and the dotted-line inner circle is a dead giveaway (clay chips cannot be made that way).

Aged plastic can indeed crumble.

Only plastic is the grey part

Not so crappy . 100000 chip . Some say mile high ..high rollers....why can they use casinos names that are closed down and how can they put an amount on them if fake

They are Bud Jones suits mold chips. Decent quality I suppose and I don’t think they have a metal slug inside. Value would be in the 20 to 30 cent each range maybe the low end with overstamp imo.

I'll check them out. Thank u

 

[BGinGA]

Not so crappy . 100000 chip . Some say mile high ..high rollers....why can they use casinos names that are closed down and how can they put an amount on them if fake

Casino cash chips are typically required by law to have the casino/card room name, location, and currency amount and symbol on the chip. No-value denomination chips do not have currency symbols, because they do not represent real cash -- they are typically used for tournaments where they have no cash value.

Only plastic is the grey part

Sorry, but you are mistaken. The people here are chip experts, and those chips are 100% plastic. Believe it or don't.

 

[Trihonda]

Not to pile on, Cathy, but you’re new, and BGinGA is literally the Tiger Woods of poker chip knowledge. If you were at a Golf Course and You asked some of the local folks some Golf Advice, and suddenly Tiger Woods came up and told you something about Golf, you’d listen. Ive rarely seen anything he’s said turn out to be untrue or inaccurate.

And aside from that, I believe it’s pretty easy for anyone who’s been in the chip game for a while to recognize that your chips are plastic. I’m staff here, and never heard of a plastic chip with a clay inside...

Some plastic chips are premium (though this is the rare exception), and I doubt that’s the case with yours. They are cancelled... cancelled chips generally don’t command high values. These seem like cheaper chips. I’d hope you might consider the possibility these aren’t worth what you might have hoped...

 

[Cathy]

It's an interesting mystery to me. They appear to be pretty crappy quality chips. I mean there are decent plastic chips and there are crappy ones, and these look like crappy ones. And I believe they were made for a real casino, but since they were no cash value tournament chips, why did anybody bother cancelling them? and who cancelled them? I've always assumed that the starburst was owned by paulson/gpi. So if I had to guess, I'd guess that GPI manufactured these chips, then this place didn't pay for their order, so they cancelled them to sell them to the public. Which would indicate to me, at a minimum, that these aren't the crappiest of crappy chips.
I'm just thinking out loud here; hopefully somebody who knows better can share their thoughts. Not that it probably matters much to Cathy, but I'm curious.

Casino cash chips are typically required by law to have the casino/card room name, location, and currency amount and symbol on the chip. No-value denomination chips do not have currency symbols, because they do not represent real cash -- they are typically used for tournaments where they have no cash value.


Sorry, but you are mistaken. The people here are chip experts, and those chips are 100% plastic. Believe it or don't.

i. believe you. But why so rude no need to be an @**. Just cause you think your an expert. But coming from a non expert.

Ok thank you . Think I'll go golf now. I only

Not to pile on, Cathy, but you’re new, and BGinGA is literally the Tiger Woods of poker chip knowledge. If you were at a Golf Course and You asked some of the local folks some Golf Advice, and suddenly Tiger Woods came up and told you something about Golf, you’d listen. Ive rarely seen anything he’s said turn out to be untrue or inaccurate.

And aside from that, I believe it’s pretty easy for anyone who’s been in the chip game for a while to recognize that your chips are plastic. I’m staff here, and never heard of a plastic chip with a clay inside...

Some plastic chips are premium (though this is the rare exception), and I doubt that’s the case with yours. They are cancelled... cancelled chips generally don’t command high values. These seem like cheaper chips. I’d hope you might consider the possibility these aren’t worth what you might have hoped...

thank you

 

[navels]

@Aquaman?

 

[Trihonda]

i. believe you. But why so rude no need to be an @**. Just cause you think your an expert. But coming from a non expert.

I didn’t perceive tha5 anyone was or is being rude to you. If folks appear at all snarky, it’s because you came onto a chip expert site, asked the members for an opinion, and when These experts provide the answer to your question with certainty, you responded back that they are wrong.

I hope you find the answers you’re looking for, even if it winds up not being here.

 

[ChipEnvy]

My bad. You’re sitting on a gold mine there. Totally real, not fake, clay chips from a casino. Probably the Flamingo from the Bugsy era. My valuation? Priceless gems.

 

[Cathy]

It's an interesting mystery to me. They appear to be pretty crappy quality chips. I mean there are decent plastic chips and there are crappy ones, and these look like crappy ones. And I believe they were made for a real casino, but since they were no cash value tournament chips, why did anybody bother cancelling them? and who cancelled them? I've always assumed that the starburst was owned by paulson/gpi. So if I had to guess, I'd guess that GPI manufactured these chips, then this place didn't pay for their order, so they cancelled them to sell them to the public. Which would indicate to me, at a minimum, that these aren't the crappiest of crappy chips.
I'm just thinking out loud here; hopefully somebody who knows better can share their thoughts. Not that it probably matters much to Cathy, but I'm curious.

Very intresting
I asked and wonder as well

 

[Cathy]

They are actually very cool to see in person they have so much hidden when they appear to have nothing in them. They went to extreme with details for them not being real. Why even cancel them them? Questions questions but guess they will be great party topic.

 

[BGinGA]

Help me clarify if they are the real thing or just for play.

Not sure what you mean by "real thing", but all poker chips are designed for play. The following is based on research and the limited number and quality of the photos you have posted:

The Broadway Card Room was not a registered casino or card club anywhere in the USA, and does not return any results following an intensive search. A legitimate card room would have some type of online signature (web site, reviews, advertising, chip rack, gaming license, etc.), even if no longer open. It is either a private home game fantasy set, or possibly an illegal card room. The chips are 9g hot-stamped 12-suit injection-molded plastic with no metal slug (see example below), made by Bud Jones, with gold-foil cancellation over-stamps. The posted pics are not clear or plentiful enough to determine denomination breakdown or if other identifying marks (name, location) are present, but there is no question regarding the source and material content of the chips themselves.

Estimated value is roughly 30c-50c each.