Doesn't solve everything but maybe?I just finished re-felting my folding table and let's just say it was a bit of an adventure since it was my first time. Mine isn't as fancy as most of yours and I cut some corners..but since it's a folding table that I store vs. a full table in a dedicated poker room, I'm not sure it matters...especially to my poker group. It's much nicer now than the all of the tables we play on A few comments and questions...
The Cup Holders - This is where I need your help for those that have been there done that. I bought deep aluminum cupholders to replace the shallow plastic ones. As you can see, I haven't installed them yet. From top to bottom of the rail there is a layer of vinyl, then the stock foam with holes already precut, then the Joan soft foam, then the stock particle board with a gaping oversized hole in it...and then a thin layer of cheap vinyl that covers the particle board.
- The Foam. I used my stock half compressed 1/2" foam that was in the table and stacked it on top of some Joann super squishy half inch foam. So I probably have 3/4" to possibly 1" of very soft foam which is fine with me.
- The Rails part 1 - My poker table had precut/sown vinyl (that I ripped it taking it off), I had to cut 1/4" plywood rails to have something to staple the vinyl to.
- The Rails part 2 - I have no idea how you guys are able to have rails without excess vinyl left at the ends, even with super stretchy vinyl. Much respect for all of you. Maybe part of it was the soft foam that I used? Anyway, I folded the excess material over in 4 spots on each end to take up the excess. My friends will never know the difference. You can see the fold over in the picture. I spider cut the vinyl on the inside like I was supposed to but I guess I'm still missing something. Oh well. It will work fine for what I need.
I did not fabricate cup holder rings like what was shown in this thread. (3) reasons...I didn't have the right size hole saw for the outer, I didn't have access to a drill press to do it right, and I was using squishy foam and not the thick foam that you guys use for the premium tables. That being said, I'm relying on the vinyl, foam and 1/4" rail with a hole cut to size to keep the cup holders from dropping too much. I know there will be some dropping because I didn't use rings...and I"m going to regret it I think. Oh...and my cup holders will have to be removed every time I fold my table up because the I installed deep cup holders. I don't want people to knock them out but the bottoms will be exposed. Not ideal...I know.
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- How do I go about cutting my vinyl? I read above that I cut an X. If my cupholder is 3 3/8" diameter, how large should the X be? I will have the remove and insert these cupholders and I'm afraid the X will tear slowly until it can be seen. Or is there another method?
- I assume that I would then fold the X back and then cut a hole in the Joann foam? Or probably easier, I could cut the bottom cover vinyl and cut foam from the bottom.
- I assume too that the foam, vinyl etc will make the cupholder tight enough that it will stay put. If anyone has been there done that, can you give me some advice on the best non-ring cupholder installation method?
Yeah it would...except my table is already together. I had planned to cut my own rings this weekend but that didn't work out. After reading the descriptions of the ring its just a matter of time before the cup holder pulls through the vinyl. Maybe I can order these rings cut them in half and glue them in from the bottom?Doesn't solve everything but maybe?
That's perfect. Thanks!Codeman,
To cut the vinyl for the cup holder spots, I recommend doing more of an 8-slit star vs just an X. Or depending on description, you could call it a double X cut. You first do an X (or cross +).... Then cut slits at every V shape (quarters).... Doing that 4 times will give you 8ths.
As to how far you should cut... It's more of a feel, eye-gauge sort of thing... No real exact measurement.... But if I had to guess, I'd say don't cut closer than say 3/16s from the inside rim of the cup holder hole.
I'm attaching a pic to help illustrate.... Hope it does that for you.
Do you allow any extra size for the rail vinyl or do you just cut it back so it doesn't get in between the cup holder and wood? I'm assuming you cut the excess out of the way but thought I'd ask. I have a circle jig, not CNC, but would hope I could do the same idea.cut the holes to the exact size of the cup holders so that it's a very snug fit
If we all had your problems Tony. Someday I'd like to get on your level lol. Without the use of a CNC router table, you'll be using hole saws. This typically leaves plenty of room for the extra vinyl.I cut the vinyl back so that there isn't any vinyl between the cup holder and the plywood.
Do you remember where you got the defuser?Thanks T_Chan for your input. Yours and everyone else that's shared you all's experiences through the years have been invaluable in helping myself and tons others in building.
Still not completely finished, missing a custom art vinyl for the inner riser & adding the mini rail at the dealer spot... But she still looks good as is. Didn't go with custom cloth for now. Wanted to build first, get the exact dimensions and win some money to order a custom cloth. Plus, I haven't completely settled on a final design so the terra cotta velvet speed cloth will have to do for the time being.