Posting Poker Chips Illegal? (1 Viewer)

[phcjpp]

Afternoon all!

Bit of a weird one but my US to UK shipper (https://www.shipito.com/en/) just informed me that it is illegal to post poker chips to the UK!

Poker chips are listed under gambling here https://www.shipito.com/en/help/tutorials/prohibited-items as prohibited items.

I checked another vendor MyUS https://www.myus.com/benefits/shipping/customs-help/restrictions/ while not mentioning poker chips they talk about gambling devices.

Anyone ever come across this before in the US? Seems complete madness to me - I have had many many orders with CPC for example that had 0 issues not to mention just sending direct with USPS with 0 issues. I cannot see a law against it anywhere.

Its certainly not a UK thing!

Best
Chris

 

[RichMahogany]

I’ve shipped to the UK at least 3-4 times without problems

 

[phcjpp]

I’ve shipped to the UK at least 3-4 times without problems

Me too around 30 times - was just this last time that this particular shipper said it wasn't allowed. No way CPC would send to UK if there was an issue! It seems they wont even do it intra-US! Madness

Chris

 

[kmccormick100]

I know there are some European countries where this is the case, I believe it is intended to apply to live casino chips iirc. In any case, using wording like Casino Collectibles, Collectible Tokens, etc may help.

 

[phcjpp]

Ah "Collectable Tokens" - I will steal that idea!
Chris

 

[Eloe2000]

You mean “game tokens”?!

 

[BearMetal]

Yeah, I would definitely categorize them as vintage collectables or collectable tokens. By this logic, what isn't gambling related? I could, in theory, use M&Ms, right? Are they banned too?

 

[Schmendr1ck]

Circular collectible entertainment devices.

 

[phcjpp]

Looked at the customs declaration on my most recent CPC set and it says "set of poker chips" - they/USPS/US Customs/UK Customs clearly don't have an issue!

Chris

 

[AWenger]

I had a foreign buyer ask me to write "numismatic" items or collectibles as the description on a package. I had never heard that term, but turns out it's a word for collecting coins and tokens.

 

[BearMetal]

Yeah, I would definitely categorize them as vintage collectables or collectable tokens. By this logic, what isn't gambling related? I could, in theory, use M&Ms, right? Are they banned too?

Someone call the cops!!!

 

[Josh Kifer]

Afternoon all!

Bit of a weird one but my US to UK shipper (https://www.shipito.com/en/) just informed me that it is illegal to post poker chips to the UK!

Poker chips are listed under gambling here https://www.shipito.com/en/help/tutorials/prohibited-items as prohibited items.

I checked another vendor MyUS https://www.myus.com/benefits/shipping/customs-help/restrictions/ while not mentioning poker chips they talk about gambling devices.

Anyone ever come across this before in the US? Seems complete madness to me - I have had many many orders with CPC for example that had 0 issues not to mention just sending direct with USPS with 0 issues. I cannot see a law against it anywhere.

Its certainly not a UK thing!

Best
Chris

I label all chips internationally as Gaming chips.

 

[phcjpp]

Someone call the cops!!!
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I will take a barrel of the red 25c and a rack of the $5's if you have them

Chris

 

[BearMetal]

I will take a barrel of the red 25c and a rack of the $5's if you have them

Chris

Some of them are in "pantry used" condition.

 

[Eloe2000]

I have always used gaming chips or game tokens. All it takes is some conservative newbie or someone having a bad day to ruin a shipment and create a lot of stress.

 

[Coyote]

"Used Toy Tokens" is handy, also.

I had a foreign buyer ask me to write "numismatic" items or collectibles as the description on a package. I had never heard that term, but turns out it's a word for collecting coins and tokens.

Nomisma is indeed the Greek for a specific currency (litteraly meaning "belief, perception", exactly because the value is perceived and believed in).
Haven't you heard of nomismatic plethora? (inflation). It can lead to chaos and catastrophe

For more Greek English, here is a whole speech delivered at the World Bank by the then Greece's Central Bank Governor (only articles, prepositions, the verb to be and auxiliary verbs are English:
https://greece.greekreporter.com/20...g-greek-flashback-to-zolotas-historic-speech/

 

[JMC9389]

I find "obsolete gaming tokens" does the job well enough too.

 

[RichMahogany]

I find "obsolete gaming tokens" does the job well enough too.

Exactly what I always use too

 

[MrWitti]

I always mention „playmoney“ not sure if it helps but makes sure its no live poner gear...

 

[RocAFella1]

@PocketAces

 

[PocketAces]

@PocketAces

Yep. Ran into the same issue when I tried to set up a reshipping address in the US. The way I understood the rule, only live casino chips, or tokens that could be redeemed for cash, were in scope, but the company just decided they wouldn’t reship anything.

Not quite sure if the issue is with reshipping companies (you can’t send cash or cash equivalents equivalents across borders and they don’t want to take any risk) or with customs. In practice, « Used poker chips » « casino memorabilia » « Poker chips » all worked when I bought from members based in the US.
So I guess they don’t actually care?

At the end of the day customs might just consider them « toys » fine with me!

 

[phcjpp]

Customs don’t care - it’s the shipping agent that is the issue.

Chris

 

[superchromix]

I always have them listed as Obsolete poker chips, with no issues..

 

[LeGold]

Customs might care (on both sides of the shipment, also intermediaries, depending on the countries involved)... if they "decide" that it's considered money, you might have problems...

 

[phcjpp]

Customs might care (on both sides of the shipment, also intermediaries, depending on the countries involved)... if they "decide" that it's considered money, you might have problems...

Well certainly UK customs don’t seem to care much! 30 odd packages and counting all labelled poker chips.
That’s a good thing

Chris

 

[Mike Wells]

 

[StatTracker]

Game tokens

 

[RowdyRawhide]

You mean “game tokens”?!

This is what I put on everything international

 

[BGinGA]

^^ Same here.

 

[cpac54]

This is what I put on everything international

I always declare poker chips as "Play Gaming Tokens, No Real Cash Value" on everything I ship and always request that sellers shipping to me do the same. Haven't had an issue yet.