Pocket sevens, middle possition (1 Viewer)

[Anthony Martino]

I think it's worth noting that we're blocking half of opponents OESD combos (8 combos of 67 left) assuming he's not limping 23. It's either Qx or Axdd with potentially two overs, which we're actually behind.

If villain holds we are 50/50 and getting 2:1 so this is a call. If he has he's ahead in equity at 53% but we're still getting the correct price to call. It's the times he has a Queen that we're in rough shape and not getting the correct price to call. But his semi-bluffs with flush draws should be called since we only need 33% equity and we'll have more than that.

 

[tripleflatbarrel]

Here's what I got for our equity v a range of Axdd (AKdd and blocked Axdd combos removed), all Q3-QJs/o combos, 44, 55, remaining 67s/o. There are way more combos of Qx than Axdd. Even adding in 32 only brings us up to around 25%.

 

[BGinGA]

I have a hard time imagining Villain limped utg with Q3, much less called a pre-flop raise with it (or any weak non-suited Queen) oop. I think his range is much narrower than depicted in the 25% scenario.

Call the shove and don't be surprised when he turns over top set. Or ..

 

[tripleflatbarrel]

OP said v is hyper loose and could have Q3o here.

I have a hard time believing V limped UTG w QQ? Haha.

 

[tripleflatbarrel]

I guess it's also dependent on how you've seen V play mutli way pots and semi bluffs. I can't imagine anyone shoving here with less than a OESD but if people go nuts in your game in multi way pots w total air check shoving with less than a PSB behind I guess it can become a call quickly.

 

[DrStrange]

I'd say villains range is too narrow. Left out lots of second and third pair combinations and even two broadways cards or hands like A6. He isn't often playing them for stacks, but it isn't impossible see horrible hands.

*** Results ***

Hero is on a mission to gain some "street cred" that will broaden his table image. I mentioned a little earlier hero has raised once with . This looks like another chance to table something unexpected without taking a terrible beating. I actually think Hero is getting poor odds to call - maybe a $10 error? But undaunted by math, Hero calls anyway.

Villain tables . Hero doesn't bink his set or a runner runner straight.

Dang, this LAG stuff hurts when it goes wrong -=- DrStrange

 

[AdamAAAA]

I need to read more books.

 

[DrStrange]

Hero doesn't know what he is doing playing LAG . . . . Don't follow his example!

 

[AdamAAAA]

I was more making reference to understanding equity and placing an opponents hands within a range to understand my next move.

 

[DrStrange]

Well that is a key skill to learn and it is hard.

The math isn't wickedly difficult but the situations are complex enough that doing the math in your head in a few seconds at a poker table is beyond the skills of most players. My alternative is to play with pokerstove or similar software and learn some rules of thumb. You don't need precision, a rough guess will get you through most situations.

I find players have a mental block with the concept of range. They want to assign a specific hand to the range not a cloud hands to represent the uncertainty of what villain is doing. This process benefits Heroes all the time. I can't tell you how many times people assume my raises mean I have exactly AK or AQ and play their hands accordingly. They even will say as much at the table.

These are not "book" skills. Ranging and estimating EV are "homework" skills, things you learn through practice and repetition at games and in after action review of your game. Best thing you can do is practice guessing what hands are in play when you aren't in the hand - ranging - every hand. Yes, that is a lot of work! Typically players do this about once an hour or less for those big exciting hands with huge pots and big bets. Don't be that player - build your poker muscles by exercising them often.

 

[Anthony Martino]

Best thing you can do is practice guessing what hands are in play when you aren't in the hand - ranging - every hand. Yes, that is a lot of work! Typically players do this about once an hour or less for those big exciting hands with huge pots and big bets. Don't be that player - build your poker muscles by exercising them often.

One way I found of truly focusing on this is to play your hand blind. Don't look at your cards, and just play based off your opponents actions and reactions. Because you aren't considering your own hand and its possibilities, you laser focus onto your opponent and pick things up.

 

[AdamAAAA]

Well that is a key skill to learn and it is hard.

The math isn't wickedly difficult but the situations are complex enough that doing the math in your head in a few seconds at a poker table is beyond the skills of most players. My alternative is to play with pokerstove or similar software and learn some rules of thumb. You don't need precision, a rough guess will get you through most situations.

I find players have a mental block with the concept of range. They want to assign a specific hand to the range not a cloud hands to represent the uncertainty of what villain is doing. This process benefits Heroes all the time. I can't tell you how many times people assume my raises mean I have exactly AK or AQ and play their hands accordingly. They even will say as much at the table.

These are not "book" skills. Ranging and estimating EV are "homework" skills, things you learn through practice and repetition at games and in after action review of your game. Best thing you can do is practice guessing what hands are in play when you aren't in the hand - ranging - every hand. Yes, that is a lot of work! Typically players do this about once an hour or less for those big exciting hands with huge pots and big bets. Don't be that player - build your poker muscles by exercising them often.

One way I found of truly focusing on this is to play your hand blind. Don't look at your cards, and just play based off your opponents actions and reactions. Because you aren't considering your own hand and its possibilities, you laser focus onto your opponent and pick things up.

Thanks guys.

I'll be honest I've been quite bad recently when it comes to paying attention. At the casino I frequent the locals do talk a lot, and so I get distracted when I try watch what's going on and end up losing track. This only happens when I'm not involved in a hand.

I'll start tomorrow night. See how I get on and start paying attention to the table.