Tourney PLO tourney structure help (1 Viewer)

[Shaggy]

Hi All,
I'm finally going to get my CPS chips in action. I want to hold a single table PLO tourney prior to my usual cash game. I want the tourney to last only a few hours. I expect to have 7 or 8 players. I need help with starting stacks and structure. Below is my starting point:
T25 x 12
T100 x 12
T500 x 7
Total: T5000

20 minute levels, blinds as follows:
25/50
50/100
100/200
150/300
break, race off T25
200/400
300/600
400/800
500/1000
600/1200

I am willing to flat out end the tournament at the 3 hour mark. I don't want the tourney to go too long... I really prefer cash. I will do finishing places based on chip stacks. i.e. chip leader gets first place, next big stack gets second... figured I would pay out 3 spots. 4th place will get zero. Any thoughts against this method? Players will be aware of this unique structure at beginning.

All constructive feedback welcome.

 

[Shaggy]

anyone... Bueller...

 

[detroitdad]

I'll sound off in a bit. An 8 player PLO tourney should move pretty quickly fwiw.

 

[BGinGA]

Agree, an 8-player plo tourney with only 100 bb will finish pretty quickly. I'd guess around 2 hours with that structure.

 

[Shaggy]

Will it make any difference that nearly none of the players have PLO experience? Likely very few pot sized raises or bets.

Should I lower the initial blinds to 25/25? And/or raise starting stack to 6000?

I'd like it to run closer to 3 hours.

 

[BGinGA]

I'd start with 10K stacks, or allow one 5K re-buy. My experience is that 5K stacks get short (or gone) pretty quickly in PLO.

 

[Shaggy]

Wow... That seems deep. Recall this is with totally inexperienced PLO players.

I guess I can go deeper, with the caveat that I am ending the tourney at three hour mark.

Any comments on this idea? Payouts based on stacks. Anyone ever do this or hear of this?

 

[BGinGA]

Only seems deep if you're used to playing NLHE. Consider this:

Only 20 minutes into the event, 50/100 blinds, pot-sized raise pre-flop is 300, two callers means roughly 900 in pot. Flop bet of 500 followed by pot-raise to 3800 (and it WILL happen, because players are betting draws or raising to protect against draws). That flop raise is over one third of a 10K starting stack, and you aren't even to the turn card yet. Doesn't take much to get stacks (or large portions of stacks) in the middle in PLO, no matter who's playing. And fwiw, I've found that newbies tend to bet pot more often than experienced players (easier, requires less thinking). Another newbie mistake is playing too many hands (over-valuing good hold'em-like hands), and then getting in trouble.

Even with 10k stacks, you're gonna be finished long before the 3-hour mark.