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Im looking at getting a new Jeep Sahara Unlimited and I’m looking for any advice on “must have” options or pitfalls I should be aware of.

I know about the crappy gas mileage but it won’t be driven as a primary vehicle.

I have to sell my 2002 truck first so I’m not in a huge rush. I’m thinking a 2017 model.

Thoughts, suggestions or warnings from current or previous owners welcome.
 
Not a fan of the 4 door jeep.

Wife has a 2008 Wrangler X with a factory steel bumper with winch, slight lift, mud tires and step bars. Have a hard top and soft top.

It has no room for anything, so we took out the back seat so the dog can be back there.

Added automatic locks and power windows. You will need handles on your nerf bars for getting in and out, and decent floor mats.

I have bought accessories from https://www.quadratec.com/vehicle/2007-2017-jeep-wrangler-jk never a problem.

do not keep anything of value in your jeep, ever. If you don't have a hard top, leave it unlocked.

do not add a fire extinguisher, looks cool until some asshole sets it off in your jeep. (seen photos online, not personally affected)

they are loud, you feel every bump in the road, and not a comfortable ride - 2 hours max travel time IMO.

best vehicle ever,

T
 
I traded my two door Rubicon in for one in 2007 when they came out. Things a beast. Comfortable on the highway. Dog loves it. Can't beat taking the doors off. And it's utilitarian, today was hauling rocks for a backyard project (y) :thumbsup:

Almost 180k!

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Welcome to the Jeep family! It's a weird cult for sure. Don't forget to wave. I'm a 2001 TJ 4.0 owner myself. I'll give you a heads up that there are all kinds of Jeep purists out there who think one thing or another. Like...

"If it has four doors, it's not a real Jeep"
"If it has a V6, it's not a real Jeep"
"If it has A/C, it's not a real Jeep"
"If it doesn't have leaf springs, it's not a real Jeep"
"If it didn't come out of a crate in dubyah dubyah two, it's not a real Jeep"

Don't worry about them, and do your Jeep how you want. Just don't forget to wave...(y) :thumbsup:
 
"If it has a V6, it's not a real Jeep"

While I tend to ignore most Jeep "purist" nonsense, I have to admit that I have no idea why they ever went from the 4.0 straight 6 to the 3.8 V6. Especially with all the problems they had in the 2007-2011 model years, oil leaks, etc.

Seemed liked a poor design decision.
 
Seemed liked a poor design decision.

It absolutely was at the time. They've gotten the kinks worked out of it now. More HP, and better MPG than the straight six while maintaining torque is a win. Just a bad transition. Probably part of the whole Daimler-Chrysler dysfunction.
 
It absolutely was at the time. They've gotten the kinks worked out of it now. More HP, and better MPG than the straight six while maintaining torque is a win. Just a bad transition. Probably part of the whole Daimler-Chrysler dysfunction.

It's just frustrating that the move appeared to be made for "product update" purposes only. That is, "we made a big change, so it must be a good change," mentality. At least, that's the way the marketing department sees it.

And now there are already rumors of the straight 6 returning to FCA for Wranglers and RAM pickups.

*sigh*
 
Off-pavement, they're a ton of fun. My brother has a much modded Willy's that he drives locally and tows all over the country behind his RV.

But on paved roads, they don't drive much better than the Army jeeps I drove in the 60's and 70's. I'm always amazed that they haven't developed a better shifting transmission.

As always, ymmv...
 
I guess because I've had a older truck for many, many years the Jeep actually rides nice. My wife even commented how much smoother the ride was than she expected. If my recent driving habits are any indication it will only get 7-8k miles a year anyways. Hoping to get her off-road in the Bat Cave, NC area tomorrow.
 
Awesome pic and video Andrew. How do you like the Sahara vs Rubicon in off road driving?

I've only test driven a Rubicon, so I can't really say. That said, I very deliberately chose the Sahara over the Rubicon for a variety of reasons:

1. I knew I'd need to regear the 4.10 supplied in the Rubicon (I have 4.88s in my Sahara) - so paying the up cost of the Rubicon wasn't justified there.
2. I knew I'd go above the factory 2" lift of the Rubicon (I have 3.5") - so paying the up cost of the Rubicon wasn't justified there.
3. I'm not a huge fan of the electronic discos on the Rubicon as the sway bar is still connected which limits travel (to a degree). I may be weird, but I prefer old school manual disconnects at the sway bar to get full articulation and freedom of movement of the axle. And the e-disco is just something else that can break/seize.
4. Lastly, and this may sound silly, but as I'm getting older I realized I wanted the creature comforts of the Sahara interior.

On the downside for the Sahara: the Rubicon has the D44 front axle, the electronic diff. lockers, and the 4:1 transfer case. The D44 front axle isn't a huge sell for me knowing the trails I typically drive - so given the elockers and 4:1 transfer case were really the only remaining selling points (at least for me) on the Rubicon, I went for the Sahara self-upgrade-route instead. And I will probably install elockers next spring, which makes the only difference between my Sahara and a factory Rubicon the D44 front axle and the 4:1 tcase.

Don't get me wrong, the Rubicon is a killer package. But as has been said numerous times on many Jeeping forums, the Rubicon is great if you want to keep it stock. As soon as you start changing out any suspension / gearing on a Rubicon, you may as well save the cash by getting a Sport or Sahara and just doing your own upgrades (because you're just spending money on parts you'll be throwing away).

As my Sahara stands now she's just as capable as (and in some respects more capable than) any factory Rubicon, except for that 4:1 transfer case. And the power provided by that lower gearing is definitely something worth debating (and yes, I really wish I had it in my Sahara). But after thorough evaluation and consideration the transfer case just wasn't a huge sticking point for me, especially considering the money I was saving by going the self-upgrade route.
 
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I've only test driven a Rubicon, so I can't really say. That said, I very deliberately chose the Sahara over the Rubicon for a variety of reasons:

1. I knew I'd need to regear the 4.10 supplied in the Rubicon (I have 4.88s in my Sahara) - so paying the up cost of the Rubicon wasn't justified there.
2. I knew I'd go above the factory 2" lift of the Rubicon (I have 3.5") - so paying the up cost of the Rubicon wasn't justified there.
3. I'm not a huge fan of the electronic discos on the Rubicon as the sway bar is still connected which limits travel (to a degree). I may be weird, but I prefer old school manual disconnects at the sway bar to get full articulation and freedom of movement of the axle. And the e-disco is just something else that can break/seize.
4. Lastly, and this may sound silly, but as I'm getting older I realized I wanted the creature comforts of the Sahara interior.

On the downside for the Sahara: the Rubicon has the D44 front axle, the electronic diff. lockers, and the 4:1 transfer case. The D44 front axle isn't a huge sell for me knowing the trails I typically drive - so given the elockers and 4:1 transfer case were really the only remaining selling points (at least for me) on the Rubicon, I went for the Sahara self-upgrade-route instead. And I will probably install elockers next spring, which makes the only difference between my Sahara and a factory Rubicon the D44 front axle and the 4:1 tcase.

Don't get me wrong, the Rubicon is a killer package. But as has been said numerous times on many Jeeping forums, the Rubicon is great if you want to keep it stock. As soon as you start changing out any suspension / gearing on a Rubicon, you may as well save the cash by getting a Sport or Sahara and just doing your own upgrades (because you're just spending money on parts you'll be throwing away).

As my Sahara stands now she's just as capable as (and in some respects more capable than) any factory Rubicon, except for that 4:1 transfer case. And the power provided by that lower gearing is definitely something worth debating (and yes, I really wish I had it in my Sahara). But after thorough evaluation and consideration the transfer case just wasn't a huge sticking point for me, especially considering the money I was saving by going the self-upgrade route.
Very informative Andrew, thanks for the info. I’ve only ever driven the Rubicon when I was in Moab but I tend to see people driving more Sahara’s on the road. If I ever go the Jeep route in the future, the Sahara seems like a good pick.
 
Still loving my Willys! I just put a Bestop fast back soft top on last weekend. I need to take a few new pics
 
Still loving my Willys! I just put a Bestop fast back soft top on last weekend. I need to take a few new pics

I've been looking at those - they are sweet! :sneaky: Get the pics up!!

And I just got some Rotopax mounts for my Moab trip at the end of the month. (y) :thumbsup: Gonna head out to the Gallery and check out the slot canyon where the Ralston kid chopped of his arm with a swiss army knife.
 
Never noticed this thread, but it was started before I joined the Jeep family. Loving my JL I got in Feb, except for the creaking clutch (getting it addressed this week).

Soft top only. Had it down for 11 days with no rain (fantastic for cigar smoking), but had to put it back up and there's another storm coming through NC on Thursday.

Averaging about 20 mpg with a 6 speed manual. Took Alien Sunshade off last week and enjoying the completely open air again.

Just put a hitch on this week and got a cargo hauler for an upcoming fishing trip to Cape Hatteras. Can't wait to drive out on the beach!

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