I'm in a dilemma, and could use some advice... (1 Viewer)

[pltrgyst]

....The spectrum of the advices ITT reflects your decision is not black and white man

I don't know how many here work in IT, but in the IT world, there's a lot of mobility, and a lot of cross-pollination among managers.

When I said "you can't go back again", I meant that as pertaining only to the situation when you've told the company you're leaving. At that point, you have to go, or be branded as someone who can be bought. You lose both respect and self-respect.

Later on, in fact, you might wind up going back to the original company, for a different position, different project, whatever. In my own case, I wound up working for MITRE Corp. three different times during my career. No problems, no recriminations, etc.

 

[RainmanTrail]

I was in a similar situation a few years ago. I put in my resignation, and my then current employer offered me a 54% increase in pay to stay there. I laughed a little at the thought that if I was worth that much to them, why weren't they paying me more to begin with to keep me from leaving in the first place? Anyhow, once you turn in your letter if resignation, it's game over. Time to move on. The cat's out of the bag at that point. You'll always be "that guy" if you stick around.

My advice: don't fear the unknown. Just roll with it. Take the new gig and enjoy a change of scenery. Worst case scenario is you don't like it there, in which case you'll find another new gig no problem. Skilled workers are always in demand. You sound skilled. Good luck at the new job!

 

[Chippy McChiperson]

I don't know, Mark, I see a lot of people saying you can't leave. You certainly can, they obviously want you to stay if they made that offer to you. If the main reason you're leaving is the insurance, and they are going to offer you a great insurance package, I would definitely give it major consideration. The new job seems appealing, but most new jobs do, until you are in them and realize that there is something there that is flawed too. The grass is always greener and all that. Now if the new job requires "business trips" in "April" to "New Hampshire", and in "November" to "Louisville", that's another consideration altogether

 

[bentax1978]

Now if the new job requires "business trips" in "April" to "New Hampshire", and in "November" to "Louisville", that's another consideration altogether

Why do you want him to be a month late to the SOHE tournament? Are you trying to reduce the field to gain an edge? Always an angle with you...

 

[JFCJ]

Mark,
I feel for ya... does either position offer a 401(k) or Profit Sharing? I'd look into the vesting schedule if so. i.e 5yr cliff vesting with 4% matching versus 2 yr vesting with $4$ matching up to 8%... just another piece to consider.

Good Luck.

 

[bergs]

Mark - forget the insurance for a moment - you're in a job right now where they're having problems placing you with limited opportunities, and you're not really enjoying the project you're on. You have a new opportunity that sounds 100% better from a professional perspective.

I don't buy that you can't resign and take a counter offer from the current employer. I've seen people do it successfully. I've done it. I've had people do it to me. Sometimes that's the only way to get what you want. When this happens in a larger company, it's generally a sign of a bad corporate culture -- but I've had it happen in a smaller company where we were just trying to make payroll and money was tight. One of star players went to leave and we had to sacrifice some other things to keep him. He stayed there for 5 more years and was a big part of our growth.

That said, I don't think this comes down to insurance and you really shouldn't let emotions play into it - be objective and clinical about it and if the new job is a better professional opportunity, take it. You're not going to like it if the smaller company has to renege on the promised responsibilities because of growth issues or a downturn, and the new job sounds like it offers growth plus exactly what you're wanted professionally.

Good luck!

 

[B.C.]

Hope whatever decision you make Mark, it works out for you in the best way possible.

On another note, I just shake my head at the US health care system. Possibly the worst in the first world.

 

[bergs]

Hope whatever decision you make Mark, it works out for you in the best way possible.

On another note, I just shake my head at the US health care system. Possibly the worst in the first world.

About to get a lot worse. It's sad that healthcare even needs to be a consideration when taking a job but that's the reality here.

That's another good point Mark - don't make a job decision based on healthcare because it could all change in the blink of eye.

 

[krafticus]

Funny how the world works sometimes.

I started my new position on Feb 27; my daughters birthday. This is the second time I started a job on her birthday, and the 1st time was a disaster. The place was run horribly and it was the single worst job of my adult life. This time around, well, not much is different. The project I am on is being run like it is 1992 and I just don't get along with many people here. Nobody is very social, and I just don't fit in.

As it turns out, a friend from a past job reached out, and wanted to know if I would go back to my last project (different company). I spoke with the recruiter and gave some numbers. well, they were close enough, and it looks like I am going back to the world I just left. I will be with a very large reputable company and have the opportunity for a fairly large bonus. Once my clearance gets reinstated, I can put my notice in here and move on. I am pretty stoked to be going back, and I already know everyone that I will be working with.

again, it is funny how things work sometimes.

Mark

 

[WedgeRock]

Funny how the world works sometimes.

...I am pretty stoked to be going back, and I already know everyone that I will be working with.

again, it is funny how things work sometimes.

I didn't read this thread the first time...I don't think I was active here at the time. I just wanted to say congrats on the offers and the ability to go back. Just goes to show that hard work and dedication do pay off.

It looks like a "bird in the hand versus two in the bush" choice. But really it's two parrots in the hand versus one flamingo in the bush

Paging @David O...

^^ Can't believe no one posted that the first time around.

 

[detroitdad]

^^ Can't believe no one posted that the first time around.

Maybe because it wasn't very funny?

 

[WedgeRock]

Maybe because it wasn't very funny?

Touche.

 

[Ellasdaddy]

Just read through the thread and am glad that things worked out. I hate that so many people and families depend on stories and decisions like this working in their favor.

The good advice here ran the gamut, but I've always felt the best pieces of advice I ever got were not to burn many bridges if it can be at all helped and that much of the struggle is made easier by who you know, not always what you know.