How does TRADE at PCF works? (3 Viewers)

[elPadroni]

Interested to see what chippers do when there is an agreed upon deal, Buyer pays for said collectible. Seller provides pictures of collectible, with shipping label, padded envelope/flat rate box, shows collectible being packaged and then provides a receipt showing USPS accepting the package. In the eyes of chippers, is this the point where the Buyer's responsibility ends?? Or is Buyer's responsibility in the hands of USPS and doesn't end until the tracking shows as delivered?

Just wondering how this situation is dealt with on this specific forum..

 

[Machine]

Interested to see what chippers do when there is an agreed upon deal, Buyer pays for said collectible. Seller provides pictures of collectible, with shipping label, padded envelope/flat rate box, shows collectible being packaged and then provides a receipt showing USPS accepting the package. In the eyes of chippers, is this the point where the Buyer's responsibility ends?? Or is Buyer's responsibility in the hands of USPS and doesn't end until the tracking shows as delivered?

Just wondering how this situation is dealt with on this specific forum..

Going to depend on what is agreed on. I only ship FOB and state it prior to completing the transaction

 

[Colquhoun]

Interested to see what chippers do when there is an agreed upon deal, Buyer pays for said collectible. Seller provides pictures of collectible, with shipping label, padded envelope/flat rate box, shows collectible being packaged and then provides a receipt showing USPS accepting the package. In the eyes of chippers, is this the point where the Buyer's responsibility ends?? Or is Buyer's responsibility in the hands of USPS and doesn't end until the tracking shows as delivered?

Just wondering how this situation is dealt with on this specific forum..

Imo, once the USPS has the item, it’s no longer the seller’s responsibility. If the buyer is uneasy about the package not making it to the destination, they should pay the extra for insurance.

 

[upNdown]

Imo, once the USPS has the item, it’s no longer the seller’s responsibility. If the buyer is uneasy about the package not making it to the destination, they should pay the extra for insurance.

It can't be that simple though. If you order something from amazon and it never shows up but they have proof they sent it, are you good taking the loss?
I realize there's a world of difference between Amazon and your typical PCF seller, but should that shift the expectations and burdens 100%?

 

[dizzyChipper]

You'd be surprised with what fiscally irresponsible people do with year-end bonuses....

 

[Moxie Mike]

Other than meeting in person, or maybe having some sort of trusted middleman, how does it work here? Is it all a matter of trust and user ratings?

As a new member you will undoubtedly be asked to ship first. If I were involved with a new member for a high-value trade I would probably insist on as much.

For instance, if you and I were in a trade, I'd get someone who knows me personally like @detroitdad or @GrindstonePoker to vouch for my and accept a package as a 3rd party. Once received, I would ship my items.

Or one side could put up some cash as some type of collateral. You'd just need a 3rd party to hang on to it until the transaction is complete.

 

[elPadroni]

It can't be that simple though. If you order something from amazon and it never shows up but they have proof they sent it, are you good taking the loss?
I realize there's a world of difference between Amazon and your typical PCF seller, but should that shift the expectations and burdens 100%?

I come from the world of patches/EDC/high end pens/knives. This topic comes up frequently, more so it seems with the deteriorating quality of USPS services. As a Seller, you're just praying to the USPS Gods that they do their job and don't lose your package. Eating the entire loss and being out the money and merchandise never fully sat well with me. I guess I'm lucky that in all my years and hundreds of packages and thousands of dollars worth of stuff shipped, this issue only came up once.

 

[LeGold]

I realize there's a world of difference between Amazon and your typical PCF seller,

This.

but should that shift the expectations and burdens 100%

Yes.

 

[Colquhoun]

It can't be that simple though. If you order something from amazon and it never shows up but they have proof they sent it, are you good taking the loss?
I realize there's a world of difference between Amazon and your typical PCF seller, but should that shift the expectations and burdens 100%?

If I’m the seller, I’ll ship any service the buyer wants, but seriously, what can I do about it after it leaves my hands? Not my responsibility. That’s what insurance is for.
If the courier can’t be trusted 100% to get it there, an alternate means should be considered, and that’s not on the seller. If I’m the buyer and purchasing something valuable enough that I cannot afford to possibly lose it, I’m re-thinking it being shipped via USPS. At least I’ll be paying for a quality insurance that guarantees I’m made whole if something goes awry.

 

[Thomacetti]

I am a CCA member, not sure if that matters much here