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[The_White_Dwarf]

Hey all,

Here is my design for a tournament home set. Since the design tool colors are not as in real life, I've cropped images I took of the color samples I have to have another view.
I'll be happy for comments and criticism.

Thanks ,

Omri

 

[bernielomax]

Your inlay looks nice. What is the significance of "The White Dwarf"

The only criticism I have is the colors used for your $1,000 and $5,000. They may be too close. Below is a photo of these colors from my sample set. Have you ordered samples?

 

[JustinInMN]

My first thought exactly is that the 1000 and 5000 are too close as well. 5000 is traditionally pink, but if you are going for something more muted maybe like a "brick red" would do the trick.

 

[allforcharity]

There's something off about the set to me. Too much colour repetition? Too little contrast? Too many neutral hues?

 

[allforcharity]

What is the significance of "The White Dwarf"

I thought it was a dig at @Anthony Martino

 

[raynmanas]

agree 1000 and 5000 are way too close in color.

further, the set as a whole seems really muted in general, but perhaps that is the ambience you are going for.

 

[Rhodeman77]

Warhammer player I assume?

I had thought about doing a set around my favorite army, The Skaven a few times.

 

[The_White_Dwarf]

Thank you all for the replies!

@bernielomax @allforcharity the name comes from a fantasy game. It is sort of an immortal ancestor that helps the dwarfs in their hardest times. He is of course scolding the players for gambling (but organize the games non the less).

@Rhodeman77 indeed


@bernielomax I have samples. When I've placed the main colors together they seemed different enough :

@JustinInMN you are right. I should have gone with pink... When I place it next to the others I think I'll need to change the Lavender color. It night be too close to the Pink:

@allforcharity you'r right. I wanted something of the colors to be represented in the other chips. I'll try something elso also.


Thank you all again. I really appreciate it!
Omri

 

[The_White_Dwarf]

Warhammer player I assume?

I had thought about doing a set around my favorite army, The Skaven a few times.
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The ancient enemy!
For me it was obvious I'd like to base it around the Dwarfs. It is actually working well, because there is an element of fantasy in some of the designs.

 

[Darson]

You have an odd selection of edge spot values which will make your T25 and T1k chips significantly more expensive than the others. Now I'm not one to focus too much on edge spot progression but it doesn't make sense to have your T25 so much more expensive than the T100 when the T100 is going to see much more play. And you're not going to have that many T5k chips so you can afford to spend more on them. Here's an example of a progression:

 

[The_White_Dwarf]

You have an odd selection of edge spot values which will make your T25 and T1k chips significantly more expensive than the others. Now I'm not one to focus too much on edge spot progression but it doesn't make sense to have your T25 so much more expensive than the T100 when the T100 is going to see much more play. And you're not going to have that many T5k chips so you can afford to spend more on them. Here's an example of a progression:

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I didn't think about it. Thank!!

 

[JustinInMN]

@JustinInMN you are right. I should have gone with pink... When I place it next to the others I think I'll need to change the Lavender color. It night be too close to the Pink:

Honestly, I think you are fine with the lavender if you change to pink for the 5000. I think Red might be worth considering if you think Pink is out of the tone for for the set design.

 

[bernielomax]

This Warhammer theme seems like a pretty neat idea. Might be too complex, but have you thought about doing characters other than the White Dwarf? Maybe a different character for each denomination?

 

[allforcharity]

One of the elements that I see tends to "mute" the chips is the use of several spots in the white-grey-blue spectrum, with two other edge spot colours almost matching with base colours of other denominations. There's almost nothing in the orange-red or light blue part of the spectrum which could give you some much needed brightness and contrast. Brighter colours among the other chips will also help make your monochrome T100 stand out.

 

[The_White_Dwarf]

This Warhammer theme seems like a pretty neat idea. Might be too complex, but have you thought about doing characters other than the White Dwarf? Maybe a different character for each denomination?

That sounds very cool. I'll try to design it with different characters.

Do you think it better to have the same design for both sides? Or like The Poker Lab, with a logo on one side and a denomination on the other?

 

[The_White_Dwarf]

One of the elements that I see tends to "mute" the chips is the use of several spots in the white-grey-blue spectrum, with two other edge spot colours almost matching with base colours of other denominations. There's almost nothing in the orange-red or light blue part of the spectrum which could give you some much needed brightness and contrast. Brighter colours among the other chips will also help make your monochrome T100 stand out.

You a correct it's exactly what I intended. I felt like the spots takes too much attention out of the base colors.
That's why I asked for responses, because I value your opinions.

I'll do some more design test with different spot colors.

Thanks!
Omri

 

[The_White_Dwarf]

I played a bit more with the spot colors and numbers. @Darson @allforcharity
Here is the new scheme (still not sure about the spots design for the 5K):

I also took a picture of the selected color samples:

Here is the same image in grayscale to see the change of tones:

What do you think?
Omri

 

[allforcharity]

I think you're on to something, definite improvement.

Try light green base for your T25.

Food for thought: Tournament sets do not have to have a spot "progression". Plenty of good examples of same pattern (but varied colour choice) sets, which can save some $.

 

[bernielomax]

This is looking good. I think with the color scheme you have selected it would be pretty hard for someone to get the chips/denominations mixed up. I like the version of your $5,000 below the best of the two.

 

[Darson]

I don't know about you but I like to have 2 racks of T1ks in my tournament sets to cover rebuys (and my favourite chip colour is yellow). So having Level 8 T1k is gonna be expensive. For example you could do something like this where all the chips are Level 3 or 4 and you get 3 colours on all of them (and 4-colour level 5 for the 5k).

Personally, when I think about a CPC set, this is my only avenue to get clay chips that are something special to me. For that reason, I would try to leverage the range of spot patterns and colour options they have.

 

[Monsterchops]

Throwing my spanner in. I really, really like the first design, i love the muted look, base colours, the spot colours and non-progression, inlay it's all great.

That doesn't mean that what the others have said isn't valuable advice. Sure, the yellow and chocolate are close, does the spot progression really matter in a home game? Don't think so. You have somewhat of a bell curve progression, just change the 25 to 1/4 and 5k to D1/8.

Just looking at the first idea and the last and they look nothing alike, I think the original colours suit dwarves, pink does not if anything red or orange like someone suggested.

 

[stefalopod]

Just looking at the first idea and the last and they look nothing alike, I think the original colours suit dwarves, pink does not if anything red or orange like someone suggested.

What about just changing the denoms so the chocolate and yellow are farther apart? I also think the muted tones are an interesting theme. So maybe you could swap yellow with your T25 or T100 that won’t be played as much with the 5k?

 

[bernielomax]

I don't know about you but I like to have 2 racks of T1ks in my tournament sets to cover rebuys (and my favourite chip colour is yellow). So having Level 8 T1k is gonna be expensive. For example you could do something like this where all the chips are Level 3 or 4 and you get 3 colours on all of them (and 4-colour level 5 for the 5k).

Personally, when I think about a CPC set, this is my only avenue to get clay chips that are something special to me. For that reason, I would try to leverage the range of spot patterns and colour options they have.

That is a good point about the T1K chip. Not sure what your budget is, but it looks like the minimum for this spot pattern is over $4 USD per chip. This could get expensive if you have two racks of these.

 

[Machine]

@The_White_Dwarf welcome!

One thing that I think helps is to change the background on the CPC mock tool. Change it to something more neutral, but anything other than birdshit green

 

[The_White_Dwarf]

@Monsterchops thank you for giving me confident in my initial design . I've replaced the Pink with Orange (much suiter for a dwarven chips).

I also selected spots with closer hue to the base color but with strong tonal difference. I wonder what you think?

@Darson thank you for the spots suggestion. I've indeed lowered the tiers. @Machine it is a great improvement .


Thank you all for your time and help!
Omri

 

[krafticus]

with that spot progression, any thought of using the 814 spot?

or DG tiger?

 

[SteveEH]

I like the latest colors and spot Patterns with the exception of the 5K. Tiger is super bright would be too much of an outlier in the set for my taste, even if it is the highest denom. Progression is off with yellow to orange. I'd rather see a pink 5K maybe.

The inlay could use work IMO. Any way to get a picture of the dwarf that blends into the background color instead of having a hard stop and white border? Also the denomination maybe too close to the edge (see CPC art requirements), perhaps it could overlap a bit with the bottom of the pic of the dwarf, or the dwarf pic could somehow sit on top of the denoms?

 

[The_White_Dwarf]

I like the latest colors and spot Patterns with the exception of the 5K. Tiger is super bright would be too much of an outlier in the set for my taste, even if it is the highest denom. Progression is off with yellow to orange. I'd rather see a pink 5K maybe.

The inlay could use work IMO. Any way to get a picture of the dwarf that blends into the background color instead of having a hard stop and white border? Also the denomination maybe too close to the edge (see CPC art requirements), perhaps it could overlap a bit with the bottom of the pic of the dwarf, or the dwarf pic could somehow sit on top of the denoms?

Great input. I shy from pink as @Monsterchops said, due to not fitting with the dwarf theme. Orange on the other hand is spot on.

I'm not content with the current Inlay. I agree with all your points. It will be the next thing to work on.

Thanks!
Omri

 

[Darson]

I think you're much closer to a final set than you were at the start. I would consider the 814 suggestion for the T5k as it's more coherent with the whole set.

Now forget about the chips and work on the inlays. Once you have an inlay you like, come back to the chips with fresh eyes and you may see things that you want to change.

 

[The_White_Dwarf]

I think you're much closer to a final set than you were at the start. I would consider the 814 suggestion for the T5k as it's more coherent with the whole set.

Now forget about the chips and work on the inlays. Once you have an inlay you like, come back to the chips with fresh eyes and you may see things that you want to change.

Totally agree.

Thanks everyone for investing time to help with my project. I appreciate the help and the sense of security in my design.

Omri