Help sorting out my WTHC into playable cash and tournament sets + pics (2 Viewers)

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Hi All,

I need a little help please with suggestions of how to map my WTHC collection into playable sets. I keep elsewhere the ones we use in our tournaments (200 each of 500,1000,5000 + plaques). (Photo at end)

This is what I have collected over the years that I don't use.

660 x 5000
900 x 1000
884 x 500
1595 x 100
1600 x 25
1383 x 5
1500 x 1
200 x .25

Clearly the overlap is at the 25 and 100 chips so assume they would feature in both cash and tournament sets. I also have a ton of Avalons and others in various THC formats that can be relabelled but that feels like the second part of the journey. I am also trying to free up racks of 5's and 1's for a private sale.

Thanks in advance for any and all help.



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you have enough chips. Why not run T100 base to avoid 25 overlap.

And if you have enough 25k plaques to run T500 base then do that. No overlap. (Based on what you said overlap is).
 
Hi All,

I need a little help please with suggestions of how to map my WTHC collection into playable sets. I keep elsewhere the ones we use in our tournaments (200 each of 500,1000,5000 + plaques). (Photo at end)

This is what I have collected over the years that I don't use.

660 x 5000
900 x 1000
884 x 500
1595 x 100
1600 x 25
1383 x 5
1500 x 1
200 x .25

Clearly the overlap is at the 25 and 100 chips so assume they would feature in both cash and tournament sets. I also have a ton of Avalons and others in various THC formats that can be relabelled but that feels like the second part of the journey. I am also trying to free up racks of 5's and 1's for a private sale.

Thanks in advance for any and all help.



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Probably should have been clearer in the original post!

I am looking to eventually get rid of my 'spare' WTHC collection but want to do it as playable sets hence the request for how to optimally divide them up.

For the tournaments I run we thankfully have all the chips we need! The tournament setup we use is 100k chip buy in made up of 500 (12) ,1000 (9) ,5000 (7) and 25k (2). We have plenty additional 25k and 100k plaques for rebuys and can support up to 30 players with room for dealers.

We rotate between WTHC, CPC Rounders, My 80's movie set and a 'TheGrange Club' set each with 25k and 100k Matsui plaques.

The plaques are here (with their chips) https://www.pokerchipforum.com/thre...m-matsui-plaques-arrived.107440/#post-2216464

Movie set creation in this thread https://www.pokerchipforum.com/threads/new-movie-inspired-set.57196/page-4#post-1659181


Chris
 
I am chatting to him hence this post.
OK. Then there's more questions to decide what you need to keep as a cash set.
  1. Do chips leave the table at tips or otherwise?
  2. What stakes do you play or do you ever see yourself playing / hosting?
  3. What's the maximum number of players you'll ever be hosting? 3 tables of 10?
 
Sorry again @dizzyChipper - I have all my tournament chips sorted separately already and only host tournament format- no help needed there at all luckily (so no need for a cash set) . The chips I listed above and now just below are 'spares'. I want to convert my large collection of spares into a number of WTHC sets that I can then eventually sell on this forum. I want to maximise / optimise the number of 'sellable' sets and then I will sell off whatever remains ideally supporting getting @Emitsu the chips he needs.

The chips I am looking to sell on are ...

660 x 5000
900 x 1000
884 x 500
1595 x 100
1600 x 25
1383 x 5
1500 x 1
200 x .25

So a helpful answer might be - OK you can make 3 cash sets and 4 tourney sets organised with the following breakdowns. I even tried the following ChatGPT prompt to see if it helped

"I own a large number of poker chips in the following denominations: 660 x 5000 denomination, 900 x 1000 denomination, 884 x 500 denomination, 1595 x 100 denomination, 1600 x 25 denomination, 1383 x 5 denomination, 1500 x 1 denomination, 200 x .25 denomination. I would like to split this collection up into a number of playable poker sets of say 400, 500 or 600 chips each suitable for either cash or tournament play. Can you please suggest how best to do that to maximise the number of playable sets I obtain from my collection while ensuring the sets are playable. My best guess is that a cash game with include chips with denomination .25, 1, 5, 25 and 100 while a tournament set will contain chips with denominations of 25, 100, 500, 1000 and 5000."

It answered as follows but not sure I agree with it hence the question to the experts here!

Thought for 2m 40s

Here’s a split that maximises the number of playable sets while keeping each set “sensible” for cash or tournament play, using exactly the denom groupings you suggested.

Best-maximising split:​

  • 5 × Cash sets (400 chips each) = 2,000 chips
  • 9 × Tournament sets (500 chips each) = 4,500 chips
    Total playable sets: 14 (and you’ll still have plenty of higher/lower chips left over for top-ups)

A) Cash set (400 chips) ×​

Uses: £0.25 / £1 / £5 / £25 / £100 (good for typical cash structures; quarters are mainly for small blind / rake / odd pots)

Per cash set (400):

  • 40 × 0.25
  • 80 × 1
  • 120 × 5
  • 120 × 25
  • 40 × 100
Why this works:

  • Enough low chips to make change (1s and 5s)
  • Plenty of 25s to support larger pots / rebuys
  • Some 100s so the table doesn’t bog down later
  • Uses quarters efficiently (you only have 200 total → exactly 5 sets at 40 each)

B) Tournament set (500 chips) ×​

Uses: 25 / 100 / 500 / 1000 / 5000

Per tournament set (500):

  • 110 × 25
  • 155 × 100
  • 95 × 500
  • 100 × 1000
  • 40 × 5000
Why this works:

  • Strong early-game coverage (25s + 100s = 265 chips)
  • Enough mid-denoms (500/1000) to colour-up smoothly
  • A controlled number of 5000s (so you don’t burn through your 25/100 supply too fast)
  • This design is tuned to your inventory: it uses all 100s and all 1000s exactly across 9 sets.

Inventory check (so you can trust it)​

Chips used in the 14 sets​

  • 5000: 360 used (of 660)
  • 1000: 900 used (of 900) ✅
  • 500: 855 used (of 884)
  • 100: 1595 used (of 1595) ✅
  • 25: 1590 used (of 1600)
  • 5: 600 used (of 1383)
  • 1: 400 used (of 1500)
  • 0.25: 200 used (of 200) ✅

Left over after making the sets​

  • 300 × 5000
  • 29 × 500
  • 10 × 25
  • 783 × 5
  • 1100 × 1
  • (0 quarters, 0 hundreds, 0 thousands)
Those leftovers are actually useful: you can “upgrade” some cash sets (more 1s/5s), or create “dealer/house reserves”, or build a couple of practice/backup mini-sets.


If you want fewer types of sets (simpler)​

If you don’t care about cash sets and just want maximum tournament sets from the full pile, you can do 11 tournament sets of 500 (with a different per-set mix), but that leaves you with quarters that don’t fit anywhere. The 14-set plan above is the best “maximum playable sets” outcome while still producing genuinely usable cash + tournament boxes.


If you tell me your typical game sizes (e.g., “cash: 6–8 players” / “tournament: 10–20 players”) I can tweak the per-set distributions to better match table demands (e.g., more 25s for bigger fields, fewer 5000s, etc.) without reducing the 14-set total.
 
I also suggested to ChatGPT it could ignore the .25's if it helped.

I can sell the .25 separately so if it makes the calculation easier you can exclude them.


Thought for 1m 40s

Great — dropping the 0.25 chips removes an awkward constraint and lets you optimise around the real bottlenecks: your 25s (1600) and 100s (1595), because both cash and tournament sets need lots of them.

Below is a clean plan that gives you the maximum number of genuinely playable sets (with sensible, standard-ish per-set mixes), using only your stated denominations.


Best practical maximum:​

A good balanced split is:

  • 7 × Tournament sets (500 chips each)
  • 6 × Cash sets (400 chips each)
Total: 13 sets

(There are other 13-set mixes too, but this one is nicely balanced and keeps each set “normal”.)


1) Tournament set (500 chips) — make​

Denoms: 25 / 100 / 500 / 1000 / 5000

Per tournament set (500 chips):


  • 110 × 25
  • 155 × 100
  • 95 × 500
  • 100 × 1000
  • 40 × 5000
For 7 sets, you use:

  • 770 × 25
  • 1085 × 100
  • 665 × 500
  • 700 × 1000
  • 280 × 5000
This is a very solid tournament distribution: lots of 25/100 for early levels, then enough 500/1000 to colour up, plus a controlled number of 5000s.


2) Cash set (400 chips) — make​

Denoms: 1 / 5 / 25 / 100 (no quarters)

Per cash set (400 chips):

  • 100 × 1
  • 100 × 5
  • 120 × 25
  • 80 × 100
For 6 sets, you use:

  • 600 × 1
  • 600 × 5
  • 720 × 25
  • 480 × 100
This is a classic “plays well out of the box” cash breakdown: plenty of change-making (1s/5s), enough 25s, and enough 100s to avoid constant re-making change later.


Inventory check (after making all 13 sets)​

Starting (excluding 0.25):

  • 5000: 660
  • 1000: 900
  • 500: 884
  • 100: 1595
  • 25: 1600
  • 5: 1383
  • 1: 1500
Leftover after 7 tournament + 6 cash:

  • 5000: 380 left
  • 1000: 200 left
  • 500: 219 left
  • 100: 30 left
  • 25: 110 left
  • 5: 783 left
  • 1: 900 left
So you’ll have loads of 1s/5s (useful for topping up cash sets), and plenty of high tournament chips, but you’ll be nearly out of 100s — which is exactly why 13 sets is the practical ceiling with “playable” mixes.


Other “max = 13 sets” options (if you prefer)​

You can trade between cash and tournament while still staying at 13 total, for example:

  • 6 tournament + 7 cash
  • 5 tournament + 8 cash
  • …all the way to…
  • 0 tournament + 13 cash
But once you push cash sets up, you’ll likely want to reduce 100-per-cash-set (e.g., 60 instead of 80) to keep them playable and not run out of 100s.


If you tell me your typical table size (e.g., 6–8 players cash, 10–20 tournament) and typical stakes/blinds, I can tune the per-set distributions (especially how many 100s you want in cash, and how “top-heavy” you want tournaments) while still targeting the maximum 13-set outcome.
 
Gut first opinion.. although there are many here much better at this than I am, and welcome their tweaks/feedback/tear-up.

Cash sets are more desirable largely by the forum, so I'd likely break those out first. You could do something like the following:

2x 800pc Cash Regular Stakes Sets
  • 100x 0.25
  • 300x $1
  • 300x $5
  • 80x $25
  • 20x $100
2x 800pc Cash Big Boy Stakes Sets
  • 300x $1
  • 300x $5
  • 120x $25
  • 80x $100
10x T25 Single Table Sets (@BGinGA approved)
  • 120x $25
  • 120x $100
  • 50x $500
  • 75x $1000
  • 45x $5000
Leftovers for Barrel/Rack Sales
  • 300x $1
  • 183x $5
  • 195x $100
  • 384x $500
  • 210x $5000
 
If it's helpful, you can ship them all to my house. I'll break them down into a few playable sets for you. Getting the mix right might require some field testing. Could take a few weeks to get it all sorted out right.
 
If it's helpful, you can ship them all to my house. I'll break them down into a few playable sets for you. Getting the mix right might require some field testing. Could take a few weeks to get it all sorted out right.
If only shipping, import tax, import tariffs didn't get in the way would be a great exercise :)
 
Dibs All DOP. :p
 
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Yeah... I wouldn't be taking Chap GPT's advice on the tournament set breakdown. It is a bit whack. Cratty's input was solid for both cash and tournament.
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Thanks and also thanks to everyone else. Will get these sorted into sets using the advice provided! Might take a few weeks :)

Chris
 

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