have you ever cheated in a poker home game? (1 Viewer)

[manamongkids]

No he was not a regular. He knew the rules. He was switching hands late into the streets. He constantly rotated the holdem em side with his left hand and rotated the plo cards with his right hand and when he felt the moment was right he do a little 3-card-monte trick of switching the cards. It was obvious on video he knew what he as doing. Anyone doing it by mistake would openly look at a card, switch, be content, move on with action, etc. This guy was left-right eyeball watching while doing his circular pattern of both hands before the switch. Can't describe it any more but the guy was cheating.

I've never played EPT but clearly there are some dudes in that league who are SHADY. Stick to chip nerds. Much safer.

Obviously not doubting any of this information, but I do wonder where he picked this up because SOHE isnt exactly the most common mixed game being played in households and casinos.

He had to have learned it somewhere, bizarre nonetheless

 

[guinness]

Obviously not doubting any of this information, but I do wonder where he picked this up because SOHE isnt exactly the most common mixed game being played in households and casinos.

He had to have learned it somewhere, bizarre nonetheless

He learned with us. 2nd time playing I believe. Like some of us, he likes to get his drink on. When he has his drink on, he starts playing magical card exchange when he doesn't do that while sober.

 

[gopherblue]

This whole thread is making me annoyed again. I was the one that called-out the All-Sweat-Everything™ mamaluke shitbag that the others are referring to above. It's a bit of a sore point because others noticed "anomalies" in his SOHE play, but didn't call him on it earlier. To be fair, it is very hard to call someone out unless you are VERY certain. But I'm still pretty steamed about it, even to this day.

Basically, he was in a hand against two others (including me), with $75 in the pot PF. On the flop there was a possible nut straight and two diamonds. He was last to act, but based on our betting on the flop (I bet out and the next guy raised all in), it was clear as day that someone had a hand. The two most likely hands causing such betting were a set on the HE side and a nut straight on the Omaha side. As it turns out, this is exactly what was in play. I had the nut straight for Omaha and the all-in raiser had a set on the HE side.

The shitbag basically re-set his cards to move at least one of his HE cards (the Ad) over to the Omaha side to give him overcard outs and a nut flush draw in Omaha, since he deduced correctly that at least one of us had a virtual lock on the HE side with a set, and that his only chance at salvation was to outdraw on the Omaha side. I noticed the switch (I had been suspicious but hadn't seen stone cold proof), and spoke up. The host ended up closing betting on that round, but allowing the shitbag's hand to play, since no one else had seen it.

He spiked the nut flush on the river and split the pot with the HE set.

Like I said, I'm still steamed.

If y'all ask nicely, I bet someone might post the video that captured the incident.

 

[BGinGA]

I've never cheated a game and it's hard to understand the motivations of those who do.

^^ This. Cheating (at cards, or anything else) is such a foreign concept that I have a hard time comprehending when it does happen. I mostly play with trusted friends, so maybe that's part of it. But even in a casino or hard-core underground game, the possibility that someone might be intentionally cheating is never at the front of my mind. Because I don't do it, I guess I assume that others don't do it. Sorta like how a loose player always thinks the other guy is bluffing, and a rock always thinks they have the goods.

Saw more than one sophisticated backgammon cheat back in the day when I played and ran events on the pro circuit. Never understood it then, either.

 

[bergs]

Obviously not doubting any of this information, but I do wonder where he picked this up because SOHE isnt exactly the most common mixed game being played in households and casinos.

He had to have learned it somewhere, bizarre nonetheless

SOHE takes a minute to learn, and a lifetime to...well, fuck, I don't know.

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...........SOHE isnt exactly the most common mixed game being played in households and casinos.

Let's change this! SOHE4ME! SOHE4U! SOHE4LIFE!!!

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This whole thread is making me annoyed again. I was the one that called-out the All-Sweat-Everything™ mamaluke shitbag that the others are referring to above. It's a bit of a sore point because others noticed "anomalies" in his SOHE play, but didn't call him on it earlier. To be fair, it is very hard to call someone out unless you are VERY certain. But I'm still pretty steamed about it, even to this day.

Basically, he was in a hand against two others (including me), with $75 in the pot PF. On the flop there was a possible nut straight and two diamonds. He was last to act, but based on our betting on the flop (I bet out and the next guy raised all in), it was clear as day that someone had a hand. The two most likely hands causing such betting were a set on the HE side and a nut straight on the Omaha side. As it turns out, this is exactly what was in play. I had the nut straight for Omaha and the all-in raiser had a set on the HE side.

The shitbag basically re-set his cards to move at least one of his HE cards (the Ad) over to the Omaha side to give him overcard outs and a nut flush draw in Omaha, since he deduced correctly that at least one of us had a virtual lock on the HE side with a set, and that his only chance at salvation was to outdraw on the Omaha side. I noticed the switch (I had been suspicious but hadn't seen stone cold proof), and spoke up. The host ended up closing betting on that round, but allowing the shitbag's hand to play, since no one else had seen it.

He spiked the nut flush on the river and split the pot with the HE set.

Like I said, I'm still steamed.

If y'all ask nicely, I bet someone might post the video that captured the incident.

I'm not posting the video in the public domain but I'd show whomever asked in person no problem.

 

[gopherblue]

I'm not posting the video in the public domain but I'd show whomever asked in person no problem.

The correct result...I worked myself into a snit when ranting above and wasn't thinking clearly. And it's probably for the best since I'm in the video on stage left and I look almost, but not quite, exactly as much of a doofus as you'd expect.

 

[MeridianFC]

One time at my game I witnessed a guy catch a hanger. So I made sure to tell the sarge.

Last time he played at my place or in my town.

You run that municipal game upstate?

 

[Toby]

Not cheated but I've witnessed some spectacular acts of incompetence.

One of our buddies got v drunk and took issue with the LAGtard winning the tournament and demanded justice, taking the villain on HU at HE.

He was so wasted that he dealt himself 5 cards, genuinely by accident, at which point we pulled the plug.

He promptly fell asleep in an armchair in the lounge. When we found him in the morning, we thought he'd had "an accident" - there was brown stuff smeared all over his face.

Turns out he'd stumbled into the kitchen with the munchies and violated some pots of chocolate mousse.

 

[abby99]

Of course not.

The only home-game cheating I've observed is shorting the pot, masked by splashing the pot. It was years ago and that person does not play with our local group.

 

[iblonger]

I have never cheated nor will I ever cheat. Our home game is mostly a social event for the guys. If a new person comes the only two rules that are verbalized are treat my chips like a fine lady and dont cheat. If someone wants to catch an asswhoopin for the $120 bucks they could win at our game then I would happily help them with that.

 

[bmichaelhorn]

Not at home games but at a casino I like to say that I only passively cheat. That is, I won't go out of my way to take an edge but if I catch a glimpse of a card or am on the favorable side of a questionable ruling I won't say anything. At home games I don't cheat passively or actively Go on and hate away, as it seems like everyone here is a lot more moral than I!

 

[ChipEnvy]

No way. Old friends way before we started playing poker. In a casino I have used the information in flashed cards after I've told the person twice what they were doing. This has happened a few times.

 

[kirchhausen]

I've never intentionally cheated. I have dealt from the wrong deck before. Post flop, three way all-in preflop, final table of the the ME of one of Krafticus' CT meetups. I had AK, v AQ an QQ. The (what we thought) case Q spiked the flop). Didn't realize until after the hand when we flipped over the community cards to shuffle back into the deck they were the wrong color.

Needless to sayI felt absolutely horrible about it, but it was an honest mistake. Still get needled about it to this day (and rightfully so, IMO).